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Old 02-18-2014, 08:44 AM
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I completely stole this idea from Reddit (user swimshoe) mostly because I wanted to see how it would play out in a different styled forum (they upvote posts to the top of the page, so you read the highest voted stuff first).

Just list your unpopular opinion, and then post WHY you believe that.

Keep it civil (if it can be done on Reddit it can be done here).
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:52 AM
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I completely stole this idea from Reddit (user swimshoe) mostly because I wanted to see how it would play out in a different styled forum (they upvote posts to the top of the page, so you read the highest voted stuff first).

Just list your unpopular opinion, and then post WHY you believe that.

Keep it civil (if it can be done on Reddit it can be done here).

Do you post on that /r/drums forum? I got banned there because I posted a link to a Dan Millman book and the mod outright canned me.

However I'm a mod over on /r/drumming and I would not ban _norm (/r/drums mod) even though he's earned a special number from me.

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Old 02-18-2014, 08:53 AM
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I'll start off with one that'll be fighting words for some of you:

I think Neil Peart is boring. He is technically impressive, but he lacks something... I really can't describe what.

I've tried countless albums and have constantly been turned off by his stuff.
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Old 02-18-2014, 08:55 AM
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Do you post on that /r/drums forum? I got banned there because I posted a link to a Dan Millman book and the mod outright canned me.

However I'm a mod over on /r/drumming and I would not ban _norm (/r/drums mod) even though he's earned a special number from me.

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I occasionally post on r/drums. I lurk everyday though. I'd just rather read than post.

I do the same here. I just lack the commitment (and knowledge) to be a steady contributor.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:49 AM
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I'll start off with one that'll be fighting words for some of you:

I think Neil Peart is boring. He is technically impressive, but he lacks something... I really can't describe what.

I've tried countless albums and have constantly been turned off by his stuff.
But he's the greatest drummer ever, blasphemy!

He's way too mechanical and rehearsed for my tastes. Practically ungroovy. I do like some Rush, though.
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I've never liked Neil Peart and I've never been a fan of Steve Gadd. And just to top it off, I've also not been a fan of Dave Weckl's style.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:18 AM
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:54 AM
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Why start this thread. If I don't like something I ignore it. If you cant say something nice, don't say anything.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:11 PM
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My unpopular opinion IS saying something nice: I think Lars Ulrich is a fantastic drummer!

I dont think he practices as much as he probibly should, but his work on the early Metallica records is still some of my favorite drumming of all time.
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:27 PM
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Interesting about Peart. I have always been uncomfortable with his drumming style. I've come to the conclusion it's his shoulders and arms. They seem to hunch up and as I watch him I wonder how he can play that way. He does, obviously, so it's moot, but somehow he makes me uncomfortable watching him. He doesn't look relaxed. Makes me feel tense.

I, too, have wondered about the status Steve Gadd rose to. Excellent drummer. I just wonder what made him, as well as Peart, the icons they have become.

Of course, I suppose that could be asked of any drummer that has reached such status, by those who don't find their playing particularly thrilling.
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I find Jazz boring. I recognize the skill required to play it and don't posses it, but it just seems like a bunch of guys playing different songs.
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I find Jazz boring. I recognize the skill required to play it and don't posses it, but it just seems like a bunch of guys playing different songs.
HAHAHA this for me as well. It always sounds like 5 guys tuning their instruments at the same time.
Same goes for the Big Band crap Buddy Rich used to play..i just don't like it. a lot of hi-hat crap and then a loud rim shot here and there.
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I find Jazz boring. I recognize the skill required to play it and don't posses it, but it just seems like a bunch of guys playing different songs.
I don't understand that. Don't all bands/groups/trios/duos/solo/ensembles, etc. play different songs?
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Old 02-18-2014, 03:52 PM
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I find Jazz boring. I recognize the skill required to play it and don't posses it, but it just seems like a bunch of guys playing different songs.

I don't understand a single damn thing about jazz

I can't play it

I seem to hit a brick wall when I listen to it

I can't join in any conversations about jazz

Yeah, to me its boring as well....based on my jealousy and ignorance
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I don't understand that. Don't all bands/groups/trios/duos/solo/ensembles, etc. play different songs?
not at the same time.
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:08 PM
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not at the same time.
LOL. LOL. LOL.

Okay, I get it. LOL
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:09 PM
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I don't understand a single damn thing about jazz

I can't play it

I seem to hit a brick wall when I listen to it

I can't join in any conversations about jazz

Yeah, to me its boring as well....based on my jealousy and ignorance
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I find Jazz boring. I recognize the skill required to play it and don't posses it, but it just seems like a bunch of guys playing different songs.
Is the dislike of jazz an unpopular opinion? Seems to me jazz isn't all that popular to begin with, and lots a of people feel that way about it. Or is this just another lets all rag on the outcasts thread?
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Old 02-18-2014, 04:09 PM
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I have lots of opinions about drumming.

How do I know which ones are unpopular ?



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Old 02-18-2014, 04:12 PM
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Is the dislike of jazz an unpopular opinion? Seems to me jazz isn't all that popular to begin with, and lots a of people feel that way about it. Or is this just another lets all rag on the outcasts thread?
I think that a musician not liking jazz seems a little unpopular nowadays on the web. It's like you have to start liking/playing jazz to "advance" to the next level of musicianship.

I'm glad to say that I have started liking/playing jazz, so I am now at the advanced stage. Sorry all you loser musicians aren't there yet.

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Old 02-18-2014, 04:13 PM
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Sticks4Drums doesn't faze me in the least. I don't understand why people allow themselves to be engaged by him. The people who engage him are every bit as guilty of Glen when a rift surfaces. Not exactly a drumming opinion, but I'm pretty sure this is unpopular.
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I dont think he practices as much as he probibly should, but his work on the early Metallica records is still some of my favorite drumming of all time.
That's not his work, it's the work of some poor guy tasked with clipping together the tape for damn near every stroke and beat.
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I think that a musician not liking jazz seems a little unpopular nowadays on the web. It's like you have to start liking/playing jazz to "advance" to the next level of musicianship.

I'm glad to say that I have started liking/playing jazz, so I am now at the advanced stage. Sorry all you loser musicians aren't there yet.

PS - total joke
Sadly, my level of musicianship supports this.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:03 PM
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Geez, I will get shot for this...

I really, really hate REMO PINSTRIPES!!!

I would rather take my mother in law out for a romantic dinner than play with those damn things
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Geez, I will get shot for this...

I really, really hate REMO PINSTRIPES!!!

I would rather take my mother in law out for a romantic dinner than play with those damn things
I used to feel the same way. Back in the day when I was beginning, every kit seemed to be an export with pinstripes.

I avoided pinstripes for many years until I bought a new Yamaha RC that came with all pinstripe heads. This changed my perspective quite a bit, they really work well on those kits imo.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:37 PM
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Geez, I will get shot for this...

I would rather take my mother in law out for a romantic dinner than play with those damn things
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:41 PM
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I used to feel the same way. Back in the day when I was beginning, every kit seemed to be an export with pinstripes.

I avoided pinstripes for many years until I bought a new Yamaha RC that came with all pinstripe heads. This changed my perspective quite a bit, they really work well on those kits imo.
I never considered yammie RCs....

They sound good with newspapers for heads
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Sticks4Drums doesn't faze me in the least. I don't understand why people allow themselves to be engaged by him. The people who engage him are every bit as guilty of Glen when a rift surfaces. Not exactly a drumming opinion, but I'm pretty sure this is unpopular.
I'm a little confused. Is he the user that started this thread, but with a different moniker?
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MY opinion is that the panning of established successful pro-level drummers (Ringo, Peart, Lars....) by DW members is a ridiculous forum activity.
WHY I believe that is because it is unconstructive, disrespectful and mostly reflects an insecurity on the part of other drummers.

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I think some smooth Jazz actually sounds really good. But just some. Flame on.
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I'm a little confused. Is he the user that started this thread, but with a different moniker?
I'm pretty sure this is not the case, 2 different people is my guess.

Duncan can sniff out Glen like a bloodhound.
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When I see lists like "top 50 drummers" I genuinely have no clue who about 45 of them are, & have never knowingly heard them play anything. In fact, I don't know who most drummers are unless they are in a band I like, & even then I've got to really like them to be bothered to find out their name. I'm just not that much of a drumming nerd!
Maybe not an unpopular statement, more an honest one.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:18 PM
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I like and dislike threads about time signatures. I dislike them because they bring out the music intelligentsia and all of their snobbery, which I cannot stand, but I also cannot help reading them - kind of the the way people like watching car wrecks I suppose...
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I have many opinions that I know not everyone in the drumming world shares. Whether that makes them unpopular or not is your call. Personally, I don't lose sleep over the issue.
- I don't care for DW Drums or Pearl hardware.
- I play nylon-tipped sticks, because I find wood tips are fragile and don't last as long.
- I don't stuff a lot of junk in my kick drums.
- I don't care for single-ply coated snare heads. I'd rather play a dot head.
- I don't get all upset when I have to play behind a plexiglass shield at a church.
- I think single-braced hardware does just as good a job, if not better, than double-braced.
- I play rock but I prefer 5" deep snares to 6.5" deep snares.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:32 PM
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I don't like name dropping. Like X, Y or Z big name does this and he was popular at some point in time some number of decades ago, therefore it must be popular.
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Here's one from a top recording engineer in NYC who is known from his drum sounds.

"I don't understand why drummers make such a fuss over cymbals, they all go psshhh"
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Just the fact that "unpopular drumming opinions" and the negativity that entire statement holds....and the fact it was started on Reddit speaks volumes about the camaraderie that is lost and AWOL by that community (except on /r/drumming, where I'm a mod and seek to further a sense of family)

Drummers are fraternity. Always have been, always will be. Except on that subreddit /r/drums. You've got a megalomaniac running the show who will shut you down when he feels like it and that's not how drummers are in real life.

Drummers are fraternity. There, I said it again. If you think otherwise then chances are you're not a drummer. We look after our peeps.
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Just the fact that "unpopular drumming opinions" and the negativity that entire statement holds....and the fact it was started on Reddit speaks volumes about the camaraderie that is lost and AWOL by that community (except on /r/drumming, where I'm a mod and seek to further a sense of family)

Drummers are fraternity. Always have been, always will be. Except on that subreddit /r/drums. You've got a megalomaniac running the show who will shut you down when he feels like it and that's not how drummers are in real life.

Drummers are fraternity. There, I said it again. If you think otherwise then chances are you're not a drummer. We look after our peeps.
Why is there two subreddits for the exact same thing? I didn't know the one you mod existed until you mentioned it. Just seems to be far more traffic on r/drums and the two should be grouped together as one.
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Why is there two subreddits for the exact same thing? I didn't know the one you mod existed until you mentioned it. Just seems to be far more traffic on r/drums and the two should be grouped together as one.
Reddit has that sprawl thing goin' for it. I think that /r/drumming came about as people were being turned off by _norm, the lone mod there. One guy controlling everything is not a forum, it's an ego trip.

Yeah, there's more traffic there. Wal-Mart sells crap for cheap too! Our sub is more about quality and camaraderie.

As for joining the two.... when _norm goes, we could see that happening. Until then, a big ol' bowl of nope.

Can you tell I don't dig this guy _norm? Well I don't.
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I hate and detest Zildjian Ks. I have heard better sounding dustbin lids.

How about that then?
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Well...

I think DW drums sound like intermediate level drums and nothing more.
I think DDrum are actually great.
I think Dixon make some of the best snare drums out there.
I LOVE jazz, but I hate free jazz and modern jazz, its just noise.
I think thrash requires no skill what so ever.
I think math metal, or in fact any kind of music that involves unusual time signitures should not be called "complex time signitures". Its not, its just learning something other than 4/4.
I think all drummers than can only drum in 4/4 are not worthy of consideration as a good drummer.
I think status quo has some of the best drumming out there.
I think SJC and the like are over-rated and far too expensive. Check out stuff like carrera drums and north drums who arent stupidly priced.


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