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Old 06-03-2010, 04:21 PM
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So I started recording myself and as a result I began realizing how friggin hard it is to not mess up on takes. I almost always leave the pocket at least once in any given take. It's extremely frustrating because it's just not supposed to happen.

How can I stay consistent throughout the entire song? Is it just more practice with a metronome?
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:43 PM
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Play along to tracks. No fills until you can groove through the songs. Practice with a click, too: first with quarter note clicks, then the click on 2&4, then on the one of each bar, the on the one of every two bars, every four bars, etc. Again, no fills until you can keep the time going with confidence. It's amazing just how far your time can shift in a half measure fill...
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:01 PM
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Play along to tracks. No fills until you can groove through the songs. Practice with a click, too: first with quarter note clicks, then the click on 2&4, then on the one of each bar, the on the one of every two bars, every four bars, etc. Again, no fills until you can keep the time going with confidence. It's amazing just how far your time can shift in a half measure fill...
That's true. I've been recording myself for a year, and it drasticly improved my playing. In the first recordings though, there was a lot of timing problems. I still have one or two fills that's not in time. One way to practice this is to practice fills slowly to a metronome and gradually working up.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:07 PM
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Not to hijack the thread... but whats a cheap and easy way to record practice? I have a laptop setup with my drums (mainly for playing playalong tracks, and viewing Finale sheet music), and I tried recording with it's builtin microphone, and a cheap external PC mic (came with a soundcard 10 yrs ago); both sounded horrible... barely listenable.

Are there any ways to do a decent recording without getting into real mics, mixers, audio interfaces, etc?
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Not to hijack the thread... but whats a cheap and easy way to record practice? I have a laptop setup with my drums (mainly for playing playalong tracks, and viewing Finale sheet music), and I tried recording with it's builtin microphone, and a cheap external PC mic (came with a soundcard 10 yrs ago); both sounded horrible... barely listenable.

Are there any ways to do a decent recording without getting into real mics, mixers, audio interfaces, etc?
use earphones...i kid you not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9jo6PcyWrI
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Not to hijack the thread... but whats a cheap and easy way to record practice? I have a laptop setup with my drums (mainly for playing playalong tracks, and viewing Finale sheet music), and I tried recording with it's builtin microphone, and a cheap external PC mic (came with a soundcard 10 yrs ago); both sounded horrible... barely listenable.

Are there any ways to do a decent recording without getting into real mics, mixers, audio interfaces, etc?
I just got a Zoom Q3, and though I am overall disappointed with the quality and the ease of using it, I have been using it more for recording my practicing, and found it a useful tool in that situation. You can get it for about 200 dollars, and it has video. The Zoom H4 and I think H2 don't have the video and are cheaper.

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I use the Panasonic ZS3. It records sound very well without distorting and gives you HD quality video. Here's a couple of examples.

My band rehearsing in the garage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86sc5MOHsa0

Metallica live in concert. Notice how well it zooms in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca5uyuOD_KY
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It really seems to be all mental.

It seems one can play the same song 100 times perfectly in rehearsal, but as soon the red recording light goes on, suddenly simple things become complex.

It does get better with time and experience.
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I use the Panasonic ZS3. It records sound very well without distorting and gives you HD quality video. Here's a couple of examples.

My band rehearsing in the garage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86sc5MOHsa0

Metallica live in concert. Notice how well it zooms in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca5uyuOD_KY
Wow. I'm impressed how far digital recording has come in just a few short years.

My video camera from 4 years ago is no where near that nice, and was more money. :-(

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I use the Panasonic ZS3. It records sound very well without distorting and gives you HD quality video. Here's a couple of examples.

My band rehearsing in the garage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86sc5MOHsa0

Metallica live in concert. Notice how well it zooms in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca5uyuOD_KY
that's pretty damn good, especially for a regular camera! that's the best audio i've ever heard from a camera, and the HD picture is outstanding too! i was thinking of getting one of those, but now i'll almost certainly get one.
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Are there any ways to do a decent recording without getting into real mics, mixers, audio interfaces, etc?
Zoom H2. This video's audio was recorded with it. It's easy to use and affordable, and all musicians should have one.
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ty for the suggestions. looks like the H2 is what I want... luckily there are plenty of used ones ebay.
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