Take the rubber gaskets off from underneath all the lugs and the butt plate. They totally suck up the sound and muffle the capabilities and wonderful sound of the supra. You'll thank me later....unless you really like that look, but the sound sufers dramatically.
I tried that with the tube lugs. No go since it created way too much splay between the lug casing and the hoop. May be a different story on the 'imperial' models though.
The 402 I bought a little over a year ago had them. I removed the gaskets, and it sounds like 402 should. I recently bought a Ludwig
Joey Kramer (brass shell) snare. It has tube lugs, but no gasket between the tube lug and shell. Good sounding drum.
The 402 I bought a little over a year ago had them. I removed the gaskets, and it sounds like 402 should. I recently bought a Ludwig
Joey Kramer (brass shell) snare. It has tube lugs, but no gasket between the tube lug and shell. Good sounding drum.
I am pretty sure this is a Ludwig Black Magic 6.5 x 14 with fancy etching right? I was looking at one of these and it looks just like my 8 x 14 BM but of course 6.5", good looking drum though.
The Ludwig 402 never had rubber gaskets, none of their drums did, tube lugs or imperial lugs. This is a fairly recent addition that may look ok, but really sucks the sound out of the drum, more so with the imperial lugs. There was never an issue with "splay" on any Ludwig drums without gaskets, so I don't think there's cause for concern now.
Really? How do those hoops fit on a shell of "normal" diameter then? And why wouldn't Ludwig source their hoops from them? Or, if Ludwig makes their own hoops, why wouldn't they retool so the things fit? I've never understood Ludwig's thinking on this issue (or many others...).You can solve this problem by ordering some hoops from Worldmax.
Really? How do those hoops fit on a shell of "normal" diameter then? And why wouldn't Ludwig source their hoops from them? Or, if Ludwig makes their own hoops, why wouldn't they retool so the things fit? I've never understood Ludwig's thinking on this issue (or many others...).
Really? How do those hoops fit on a shell of "normal" diameter then? And why wouldn't Ludwig source their hoops from them? Or, if Ludwig makes their own hoops, why wouldn't they retool so the things fit? I've never understood Ludwig's thinking on this issue (or many others...).
Yes please do elaborate on this I am curious also. How can those hoops correct the splay if they are the same?
Should I even be worried about the splay?
I tried that with the tube lugs. No go since it created way too much splay between the lug casing and the hoop. May be a different story on the 'imperial' models though.
I just discovered yet another annoying "feature" of Ludwig snares. The new style butt plate for the snares sits so low on the shell that the snare side hoop smashes into it. WTF??
He did? I don't remember that, but I'm not surprised. Have you seen that on your drums?I remember Zambizzi had exactly the same problem.
Outside of the butt plate issues.....what's the verdict on this long awaited gem? (assuming you've actually been able to tune the thing, that is)
Have you seen that on your drums?
You know, it's not such a big deal because I know there's a good fix for it with those collar-less heads that Karl uses. I'm still absolutely over the moon with this duo of snares and think I could die a happy camper with just these two.Nup. Two supra's, a BB and a bronze and no issues with an Emeror over a snare side Ambassador on any of them, mate.
I'm bleeding for you. After such a long wait, I was hoping you'd front up and say everything was even better than perfect.
As long as they keep up with the magical shell construction they've hit upon, Ludwig metal snares will always be the supreme rulers of the universe......