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Old 04-03-2018, 09:37 AM
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Default would you buy cymbals with scallop repair?

Hi, does anyone have any experience of Ďrepairedí cymbals? See you get different types of repairs, scallop, dog bone etc.

Iíve found a used crash I might buy, its nice and affordable, but has a scallop repair. Any thoughts?
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Old 04-03-2018, 02:57 PM
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Jmo, I would not. A repaired cymbal is still a broken cymbal. Unless it's very cheap, $20 or so, and has a unique sound that you really like I would stay away.
Repaired cymbals can sound good and last though. If I had to I'd rather have a scalloped cymbal than a radial crack repair. A repaired, heavier ride would be safer bet than a thin crash.
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: would you buy cymbals with scallop repair?

Cymbal in question is a zildjian avendis, and is roughly 1/8th of the price of a new one. The repair looks, good, nice and smooth.

Just don't know if it alters the sound in any way (haven't tested it!)
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:39 PM
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For $20 sure, otherwise no. I bought a cracked Paiste once for cheap and the crack went nowhere, still going strong. But I was lucky.
I'd buy scalloped, where only a coin-size piece on edge was cut out, but would never buy anything where the entire circumference of the cymbal was removed to cut down say an 18 to a 16. One sees a lot of that too.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:44 PM
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I refuse to buy other peoples junk.
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Old 04-03-2018, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: would you buy cymbals with scallop repair?

I agree with that in theory, but it may be a way of getting an otherwise decent cymbal on a budget..
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Old 04-04-2018, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: would you buy cymbals with scallop repair?

If the cut out is an inch deep or less and is rounded off I would consider it. Any cut out much deeper than an inch, or anything with straight cuts and sharp edges (a 'pizza' style cut out) I would avoid.

Buying any damaged cymbal is a gamble. I've bought 3 with small cracks. because they were cheap, and I wanted to see how it would work out if I repaired them myself. An 18" crash with a small edge crack gave up the ghost within a few months - the crack just continued even though I carefully cut out a round section from the edge and sanded it smooth, A 16" crash with a similar repair is still good some 5 years later, and a 12" china splash that I cut out a round 'ozone' style hole in the bow is still intact but sounds like shit - it sounded better before I cut it, for some reason cutting out the hole made it sound like I'd plastered it with 3lbs of tape. I don't use it because it sounds crap so I can't comment on life expectancy - but I suspect it wouldn't last long if I played it regularly.

If the cymbal is dirt cheap and you are willing to accept that it may not last long it may be worth a gamble, but don't expect it to sound the same as an unmodified cymbal - you may get lucky, but I suspect the odds are less than 50/50.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: would you buy cymbals with scallop repair?

I wouldn't. Just about any amount of material removed from the edge is going to change the sound and add a China-like trashy element to the sound. The deeper into the cymbal the cut goes, the more pronounced the effect is.

With the staggering number of non-broken A. Zildjian cymbals out there in the used market for reasonable prices, I really don't see the appeal of buying a broken one just to save a couple bucks. Even if you buy it and find the sound acceptable, you'll still end up wanting a non-broken one eventually anyway, so why buy something twice?
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I refuse to buy other peoples junk.
I feel the same way---if the repair was successful why are are they selling it?
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:32 AM
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I feel the same way---if the repair was successful why are are they selling it?
My sentiment exactly, HC.

To the OP.

Save your money and invest in something worthwhile.
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: would you buy cymbals with scallop repair?

Thanks for the replies! The guy is selling loads of drum gear (not just this repaired cymbal) so Iím not worried heís selling specifically because its broken.

However, I do think after a while I would end up wanting a cymbal without a chunk removed from it!
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