kevdrummer28
Senior Member
Why is it that sometimes one kit is played to record with, and a different model kit is used to play live with?
What if you were to put a DW front head on a Ludwig bass drum? Would that fool them??
Why is it that sometimes one kit is played to record with, and a different model kit is used to play live with?
Outside of the practical matters, when recording, the concept is to get the best drum sound for that song, which may mean switching up drum kits. While live, the concept is to get the best drum sound that works for the entire show.
I have a DW kit that's my "recording kit". Quite frankly, the reason is because 2 of the engineers I work for have been blinded by the DW marketing light. Even if I think that a different kit would work better for a particular session, they always insist that I bring my DWs.
Funny, I've never been asked "do you have a DW kit?" or "can you get a DW kit?" or "would you mind using our DW kit?"
Bermuda
Funny, I've never been asked "do you have a DW kit?" or "can you get a DW kit?" or "would you mind using our DW kit?"
Why is it ... one kit is played to record with... and a different kit to play live with?
No, he was right, I've heard plenty of ppl prefer DW to record with
I'm sure Caddywumpus is right, on the other hand Bermuda is a professional recording and touring drummer with nearly thirty years experience, so it's entirely possible that the engineers Caddywumpus has worked with aren't half as good as those Bermuda has worked with.
Let's not forget that many engineers and drummers hear with their eyes. They see a DW badge or logo on the head, and suddenly the drums are better. For some it's Ludwig, or Gretsch, or Yamaha, etc., but perceptions carry tremendous weight.
And that's how the drum companies want it. DW in particular has gone to great lengths to place that logo in as many performing situations as possible, and it's worked.
I'm not saying that engineers can't tell the difference between one drum and another, or that DW's don't sound good. But many have those two initials so ingrained in their psyche, that it's easiest and least-confrontational for them to know there's a DW kit to work with.
As for me working with better engineers, I think it's more about me working in Los Angeles for those 35+ years, half of that prior to DW becoming widely known. Those engineers have heard a lot of drums and aren't locked-into one brand. Of course a few of the older guys are, they love the early '70s Ludwig drums. So maybe it's not so different?
Bermuda
Not so sure about that Ducan. The development has thrown a few curved balls, but you should expect that when pushing the boundries. I'm recording with it this coming week. I've had to make a lot of temporary modifications, so it's not going to be at optimum performace. Actually, far from it. Add to that, it's a cheapo local demo studio & limited time, I may well be setting myself up for a fall. Both tracks require a fat sound too, so that won't be to everyone's liking.When you get to Andy's level of specialism, it's a different ball game. That kit is designed for one thing and one thing only and I expect it to sound stellar.
it's entirely possible that the engineers Caddywumpus has worked with aren't half as good as those Bermuda has worked with.
Let's not forget that many engineers and drummers hear with their eyes. They see a DW badge or logo on the head, and suddenly the drums are better. For some it's Ludwig, or Gretsch, or Yamaha, etc., but perceptions carry tremendous weight.
And that's how the drum companies want it. DW in particular has gone to great lengths to place that logo in as many performing situations as possible, and it's worked.
I'm not saying that engineers can't tell the difference between one drum and another, or that DW's don't sound good. But many have those two initials so ingrained in their psyche, that it's easiest and least-confrontational for them to know there's a DW kit to work with.
As for me working with better engineers, I think it's more about me working in Los Angeles for those 35+ years, half of that prior to DW becoming widely known. Those engineers have heard a lot of drums and aren't locked-into one brand. Of course a few of the older guys are, they love the early '70s Ludwig drums. So maybe it's not so different?
Bermuda