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Old 03-15-2019, 08:54 AM
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In another thread I was debating on drilling the bass drum (and I got the appropriate mount for that), or trying out a rack for the first time.

Well, the rack showed up today - just a stock Pearl ICON straight rack. And I must say, right out of the box, I was able to make it do what I needed it to do. I had even contemplated maybe cutting the cross bar, and shortening the vertical bars to make the rack smaller, and happily discovered I won't have to resort to the hacksaw. It works as it's designed. That's kind of mind-blowing by itself.

More surprisingly, I was able to almost center the toms over the cross bar, giving the impression that there isn't this huge chrome rack in front of the kit since I could drop the crossbar right over the bass drum - I do like that. I had contemplated how I'd move it around, and I could leave it together, cover it with a BBQ cover and put it in the back of my truck, or, since the engineering is done so well (it's not hard to dismantle), all the parts will fit in my 48" hardware bag that has wheels on one end. The better news is, the whole rack only weighs about 22 pounds. Much lighter than TWO tom/cymbal combo stands. And as you can see in the picture, it takes up ALOT less floor space. I think if I had to dismantle this for a gig, it would still be easier to re-build than the two combo stands!

I know as you look at the photo, there's a lot of things that say "Pearl" all over the place. I decided to put the rack's logo badge dead center because it acts as an aid as to where to center the rack would go if I put the bass drum down first. This set-up will work when I take all four toms out on a gig. And I have my flat-based hardware, and the additional 9x13 tom, to take out when I want to go with a 4-piece. So I don't have to take the rack out, or take a tom off, at all. The 10" and 12" toms will live on the rack.

I think this is going to work out. It's nice to find these things on sale so cheap!
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Lookin' sharp! I like how the cymbal stands fix directly to the posts. My old Gibraltar rack isn't capable of that.
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Lookin' sharp! I like how the cymbal stands fix directly to the posts. My old Gibraltar rack isn't capable of that.
Your Gibraltar should be capable :) You just need to buy some adapters that fix to the uprights. :)
Rack looks good & does make setting up easier & saves on floor space. I can set mine up identically each time :)
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Old 03-15-2019, 03:06 PM
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I'm jealous! That's what I've wanted to do for a long time.

Did the rack come with the tom brackets & cymbal sections? Or are those add-ons?
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It looks good and probably functions even better. Way to go. Peace and goodwill.
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Awesome! Racks are cool, but I am a rack fan so slightly biased.

Do you think you will keep the rack and ultimately close the hardware rabbit hole, or do you need to gig it first and see how it does with load in/setup/tear down/load out?
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At first I was skeptical when I read your previous thread. But now I must say it is beautiful and simple. Simply beautiful? Yes.
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I think it looks great! Very simple, yet effective. I think that this is the way to go if a drummer wants to play a virgin bass drum.
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I'm jealous! That's what I've wanted to do for a long time.

Did the rack come with the tom brackets & cymbal sections? Or are those add-ons?
It comes with all the necessary brackets as seen. I just added my tom arms and the cymbal booms - which is a 7/8 downtube that manages the boom arm.

But Im really blown away that the thing worked great out of the box. I kept thinking Id have to cut the tubes down and shorten the cross bar, but I dont need to (if I want to cut it shorter, that would be only for aesthetic considerations).
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Awesome! Racks are cool, but I am a rack fan so slightly biased.

Do you think you will keep the rack and ultimately close the hardware rabbit hole, or do you need to gig it first and see how it does with load in/setup/tear down/load out?
Perhaps. I now have ALL the options available to me depending on what I’d like to do. But, as I’ve said before, I’m wondering why I didn’t try this sooner. It seems so much easier. Transporting it if I have to break it down into a bag is relatively easier than two combo stands and the rack takes up much less floor space. This could be it for this set up for a while. If I got out with just a 4-piece, I have my regular stands and a 13” separate tom. Best of both worlds.
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Your tom and cymbal angles have a nice contour to them, which provides a nice contrast to the stark angles of the rack. If you were to have your toms and cymbals flat and straight, I think it would all look rather rigid and somewhat sterile. As it is, though, I like it.

But, didn't you have your 10" and 12" inch toms reversed a la Purdie and Aranoff?
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When I was doing 3 up I used that same rack. Now that I am doing 2 up and drilled the dreaded hole for a bass drum mount. Mine is collecting dust. Trying to sell it with 7 clamps if anyone is interested. I loved how steady iw was with two cymbals and three toms.
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Great job. Makes me wanna bust out my Yamaha hex rack again.
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Your tom and cymbal angles have a nice contour to them, which provides a nice contrast to the stark angles of the rack. If you were to have your toms and cymbals flat and straight, I think it would all look rather rigid and somewhat sterile. As it is, though, I like it.

But, didn't you have your 10" and 12" inch toms reversed a la Purdie and Aranoff?
Thanks! I didnt even think about the angles, it was just so easy to set everything the way I needed it. But yeah, I did do the reverse thing, but I went back to normal. It was a little weird wanting to do a linear tom roll downward and having to start it on my left.
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Although it works as is, does anyone think I should cut the vertical pipes down?
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I wouldn't cut anything. Next week you'll want them bacxk and it will be too late. cymbals can be mounted 2 inches above the vertical or so, so I don't see them in the way.
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Although it works as is, does anyone think I should cut the vertical pipes down?
If they're not in the way, why cut? Nonetheless, that looks great! Nice
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I don't like racks, but I know you'll be through with this phase soon, so I'll cut you some slack - LOL
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Its a small thing, but can the tom mounts be flipped around to inside of the rack? Itd be a cleaner look if thatd work.
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Speaking of racks, how's Mo been?
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I don't like racks, but I know you'll be through with this phase soon, so I'll cut you some slack - LOL
I dunno. Bo goes through drums like crap goes through a goose, but he seems to stick with hardware, cymbals, and snares.
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Hey Bill let's wager on it. I'll bet a dollar that it's no longer a thing by July 31, 2019.

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This is a good ob, and a funny analogy too lol. I'm still going with Bo as more of a traditional look guy that a rack look guy. It's just a matter of time.

Bo wasn't imprinted with racks. Bo's a flat base guy.
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Although it works as is, does anyone think I should cut the vertical pipes down?
Honestly, yes, I think it would look better if the top hinge of the cymbal arm post were lower than the hinges of the tom arms - it would add a little more contour to the overall aesthetic.

But, should you? I don't know. Is it a lot of work? Can it be done cleanly? Would it affect the resale value?
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I dunno. Bo goes through drums like crap goes through a goose, but he seems to stick with hardware, cymbals, and snares.

Maybe, but I could have sworn there were flat base, and light weight, stand phases not too long ago.
Maybe it was someone else, or just a general forum thing though.
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Maybe, but I could have sworn there were flat base, and light weight, stand phases not too long ago.
Maybe it was someone else, or just a general forum thing though.
What makes you think I dont still have those? Did you not see where I said I have all the options available to me now? Or is it just customary to go off without reading everything?

You know, I dont mind the ribbing, it just has to be intelligent ribbing. Otherwise, it sounds like you guys keep saying the same thing.
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I love my rack. I use it with my hollow log ash kit with the virgin bass drum. Mine has wheels.
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It’s a small thing, but can the tom mounts be flipped around to inside of the rack? It’d be a cleaner look if that’d work.
When you do that, you essentially push the rack itself further away from you and end up having to extend the cymbal boom arms by a few to several inches. That may or may not make a difference for some people.
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My 10 and 12 racks had the clamps on the outside of the horizontal rail and the 8 inch was on the inside to keep things even.
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What makes you think I dont still have those? Did you not see where I said I have all the options available to me now? Or is it just customary to go off without reading everything?

You know, I dont mind the ribbing, it just has to be intelligent ribbing. Otherwise, it sounds like you guys keep saying the same thing.

I just went off without reading everything.

So many words - so little time.
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Although it works as is, does anyone think I should cut the vertical pipes down?
I wondered about those pipes. I do like the rack being low.

Id probably swap the clamps around so the tom arms were on the inside of the rack and move the rack 3 inches away to compensate. Id probably get the down pipes shortened too. And shorten the crossbar a bit to bring the legs closer. All for aesthetics, of course. Makes no difference to the sound or function.
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Id probably swap the clamps around so the tom arms were on the inside of the rack and move the rack 3 inches away to compensate. Id probably get the down pipes shortened too. And shorten the crossbar a bit to bring the legs closer.
I like the sound of all of that.
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I wondered about those pipes. I do like the rack being low.

Id probably swap the clamps around so the tom arms were on the inside of the rack and move the rack 3 inches away to compensate. Id probably get the down pipes shortened too. And shorten the crossbar a bit to bring the legs closer. All for aesthetics, of course. Makes no difference to the sound or function.
While I like the appearance of the Pearl rack much more than my Tama Power Tower rack, I like being able to adjust on the different axes as I can w/ the Tama rack. I can raise or lower the horizontal bars and push out or bring in the legs as needed.

Bo, if you're thinking this may be a keeper, then modify the rack as you see fit. If you're thinking it may be gone in a couple years, hold off on making it "custom."
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If you end up cutting the vertical pipes use a pipe cutter. It's a much cleaner cut, which you'll need because that end will be against either the mount on the top or the foot at the bottom of the pipe.
Are the feet removable, and how are they attached? There must be an attachment point of some sort inside the bottom end of the tube, which could determine which end you can cut.
I have idea if you can cut the square tubes, but where there's a will there's a way.
Why didn't you go all out and put everything on the rack? Maybe make your own Pearl stealth racks for the sides?
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Personally, I'd shorten the cross bar to snug those legs closer to the bass drum. It's a 5 minute job, & further compacts the aesthetic.
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While I've been known to take a hacksaw to hardware .... run a few scenarios before you do it. Are you ever gonna run a larger bass drum, for one? Cutting down the vertical will look better, but it might negate ever getting a 24" or 26" kick under there. But if that's not an issue, cutting that thicker vertical tube will look better. What I would cut down is the 7/8" cymbal arm pipe hanging down from the Icon horizontal. I think that will give you a much neater line. In the attached photo, you can see the cymbal holder does not protrude below the horizontal rack bar, but the tom holder does. You can also see that a shorter thick vertical bar might look better than a taller bar.
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If you end up cutting the vertical pipes use a pipe cutter. It's a much cleaner cut, which you'll need because that end will be against either the mount on the top or the foot at the bottom of the pipe.
Are the feet removable, and how are they attached? There must be an attachment point of some sort inside the bottom end of the tube, which could determine which end you can cut.
I have idea if you can cut the square tubes, but where there's a will there's a way.
Why didn't you go all out and put everything on the rack? Maybe make your own Pearl stealth racks for the sides?
There's a stud that sticks out of the bottom of the vertical piping that inserts into the horizontal leg piece. So I'd cut it from the top with a pipe cutter (gonna pick one of those up today).

TBH - I hadn't given any thought about if I'd ever play a bigger bass drum than a 22" with this rack. Now that I think about it, the only time I'm sorta comfortable with more than one rack tom is if the bass drum is 22" or smaller. Things like toms get impossibly high if I go bigger on the bass drum. So this may negate using the rack for a big Bonham kit anyway (and it wouldn't look cool). I think I can cut this rack shorter without any regrets.
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Why didn't you go all out and put everything on the rack? Maybe make your own Pearl stealth racks for the sides?
Everything I have is on the rack. Did I miss something?
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I think he's suggesting you convert your floor toms to suspended toms and mount them on a rack as well.
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Everything I have is on the rack. Did I miss something?
More cymbals, a gong, octobans, the Latin percussion section, the hand percussion section, and the kitchen sink.
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