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Old 05-10-2009, 12:16 PM
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Hi all,

I am about to buy a new drum kit (5 or 6 pcs) for a sound rental company. This drum kit will be used in live situations fully miked up and played by different drummers, mostly rock drummers.

I am located in Egypt and we don't have many suppliers available here. TAMA is available but only the cheapish kits so I need to order a custom top end kit and have no chance to test anything before.

So I would need advise on what to get. As mentioned earlier it will be used mostly for rock and heavy rock drummers so we are looking for a kit with a natural deep punchy sound.

Should I look for Maple / Birch or Bubinga?

Size of bass, 22" or 24" diameter, What depth?

Rack and Floor toms, size and depth?

Any advise and recommendations would be appreciated.

If it helps we are using a mix of Shure, AKG and EV mics for drums and percussion.

Thanks,

Ben
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Old 05-10-2009, 06:45 PM
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Both of those drums are going to sound great. But if you are going to be micing them and processing them i don't see the point in getting the more expensive on of the two since you can pretty much get any sound that you want using microphones and processing. I vote for the 24 kick.
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I'd personally go for the birch because it's a more aggressive sounding drum and mics up well. However I'd go for the 22" bass drum as it will probably have a bit more punch, and if it's being used for metal with double bass it'll produce a clearer, sharper sound. With a big boomy 24" bass, a double pedal might get a bit lost in the mix.
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:52 PM
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Both of those drums are going to sound great. But if you are going to be micing them and processing them i don't see the point in getting the more expensive on of the two since you can pretty much get any sound that you want using microphones and processing. I vote for the 24 kick.
I agree- any drum can sound fantastic with good mikes and some effects.....Yup the bigger kit will be the one for rock mate- good luck with it!
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:27 PM
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I would say you have a few things to consider here.

1. Sound:

-- The fact is any pro level kit will sound great if it is tuned and mixed properly.
Birch, Maple, Babinga, whatever, look for your best deal on a pro level kit.

2. Durability:

-- You want the strong double braced hardware you can get. rentals do not get treated with a lot of respect most of the time.
-- Finish, go for a wrapped Finnish, not painted. The wrap is much more durable, paint will get scratched up in no time as a rental.

3. Sizes:

As for the kick size, a 22 " will be more versatile then a 24" as far as sound and for setting up. 24" is a big drum and for shorter players they can be an issue. depth, any newer kit will come with "16 or "18 Either is fine, nothing wrong with a vintage 14" depth either.

As for toms 12,13,16 are the most common, that would be fine as would 10,12,16.

I would also suggest 2 ply heads on the toms, they simply last longer and can take more abuse.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:55 AM
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Hi,

Thanks for all great advise.

It looks like we are going for a "standard" setup like this

Tama Starclassic Elite Bubinga

Kick 22 x 16

Toms 12 x 9, 13 x 11 and 16 x 16

Snare 14 x 5.5

As for the finish, can't get wrap, but of course I will have flight cases for all and trusted tech's to handle them.


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Old 05-11-2009, 01:58 PM
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Bubinga all the way.

Shit loads of bottom end and punchy as you like when you tune 'em up.
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Hi all,

I am about to buy a new drum kit (5 or 6 pcs) for a sound rental company. This drum kit will be used in live situations fully miked up and played by different drummers, mostly rock drummers.

I am located in Egypt and we don't have many suppliers available here. TAMA is available but only the cheapish kits so I need to order a custom top end kit and have no chance to test anything before.



So I would need advise on what to get. As mentioned earlier it will be used mostly for rock and heavy rock drummers so we are looking for a kit with a natural deep punchy sound.

Should I look for Maple / Birch or Bubinga?

Size of bass, 22" or 24" diameter, What depth?

Rack and Floor toms, size and depth?

Any advise and recommendations would be appreciated.

If it helps we are using a mix of Shure, AKG and EV mics for drums and percussion.

Thanks,

Ben

Yamaha is the most requested drum kit with sound companies world wide. Yamaha's hardware is the most user friendly, easiest to operate.

The hi-end offerings from Yamaha are built to last and their hardware (which will see the most abuse) is more durable than Tama's.

I've played on hundreds of rental kits, Tama doesn't hold-up as well as Yamaha.

Yamaha hardware is supreme, easy to use and it feels great. You have to consider maintenance, its part of a rental companies budget and drums aren't immune. Yamaha will save you $ in the long run.

22" bass drum is still considered the industry standard, not 24"

Wood type doesn't matter, no ones really going to know the difference. Get the best deal on a hi-end set. Just know whatever you get, its going to be abused.
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Old 05-11-2009, 11:48 PM
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I would recommend a Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute kit.

Either 22 12 13 and 16 or 22 10 12 and 14 with the Universal sizes i.e. 10x8 12x9 13x13 14x14 16x16 22x16

The hardware will also hold up better than Tama with a bunch of different drummers abusing it.

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