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Old 08-18-2010, 06:11 AM
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Now we live in a grossly harmed economy and people need to wake the hell up. if you can't afford locally made products, the answer is very simple... work harder.


Work harder? Most people who are working are working so hard that they can't possibly work any harder! I'm astounded by your stupidity and I am still trying to figure out why you have posted a picture of a person who assume is you with Steve Gadd! Are you trying to show us that you met someone important or are you implying that Steve Gadd agreeing with you on all of this?

You preach all of this tolerance crap until someone disagrees with you and your myopic viewpoint and then you are intolerant. You know, it's no wonder you got kicked off the last forum; all you want to do is argue.

Honestly, you come across as a whinner and a know it all......two people nobody likes!

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Old 08-18-2010, 06:23 AM
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Your username here is Azrael. Azrael is the 'Angel of Death' in Christian mythology. Your words mean nothing to me. I am delighted that you are angered at me. I am not seeking or taking medical advice from someone who represents themselves as the angel of death.

I hope you find your way back to the light.
Oh great, not only is this a heated topic on buisness and peoples rights it's now a heated topic on religion!

Why don't we make some remarks on child labor and politics while we're at it.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:56 AM
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We don't need you, its your job to make people want to buy from you, learn how to do that and you'll profit, its actually addicting.

You are mistaken in your opinion of not needing a brick and mortar store.


We don't need to buy from shops who aren't service oriented, who put profits/themselves b/f the customer, we can (and will) go somewhere else.

There are friendly drum shops that actually try and gain your business and there are shops that have inexperienced sales people who treat customers as potential enemies... which would you want to spend your money in?

Also, the internet experience is not immune any of the above.


Yes, as someone previously posted- car dealers have been known to show perspective buyers the car's invoice and encourage the buyer to make an offer. What a great idea for a drum shop hurting for sales-- "Look this is what we paid for the drum set, what would you like to offer for it?" Your engaging the buyer with this tactic, level playing field, you show respect to the potential buyer by not hiding your cost/fears... one step closer to the sale, a big plus, but only if you have experienced sales people.



Yeah, except for the part where the service disappears because there was no profit to sustain it. Nobody's getting rich selling drums and someone making a profit from you isn't necessarily your adversary.

No ones getting rich selling drums? Maybe not at the street level, but there's a lot of people stepping on the stuff before it ever gets to the street shop level (draconian standard business practice). The customer is 'always' the one who decides what the selling price will be.

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Old 08-18-2010, 08:00 AM
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I don't want incite anything but I'm just curious on everyone's opinion which I feel is related to the OP's question.

What is everyone's opinion on the extended warranties and service plans that instrument retailers offer. Now I've got years in retail including working at a major music store so I'm well aware of what they are. I'm just curious on everyone else's take.
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:21 AM
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I don't want incite anything but I'm just curious on everyone's opinion which I feel is related to the OP's question.

What is everyone's opinion on the extended warranties and service plans that instrument retailers offer. Now I've got years in retail including working at a major music store so I'm well aware of what they are. I'm just curious on everyone else's take.

My opinion: Should be a new thread, this ones being stretched sideways enough already.

This thread is getting over 400 hits a day.
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:49 PM
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I don't want incite anything but I'm just curious on everyone's opinion which I feel is related to the OP's question.

What is everyone's opinion on the extended warranties and service plans that instrument retailers offer. Now I've got years in retail including working at a major music store so I'm well aware of what they are. I'm just curious on everyone else's take.

Most retail genius', not me, will tell you that extended warranties and not worth the money. There are pros and cons. I had my computer fixed thanks to an ext. warranty so I guess it all depends on what you buy and how much the waranty is. They were designed to make the retailer money, not to impress you with their customer service.
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Old 08-18-2010, 06:36 PM
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I never get the extended warranty on anything, this includes the extended warranty on cymbals when I use to visit my local Guitar Centers. It is a hugh money making ritual for the retailer.

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Old 08-18-2010, 06:43 PM
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The warranty on the drums and cymbals I buy from the manufacturer is just fine.

Someone who tends to abuse things might be smart to get one (depending on the item). It's really just "paying up front" for part of the replacement cost on whatever might go wrong.
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:23 PM
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Crazy *s:

You are genius! you may be absolutely the smartest person I have ever met and I am not being sarcastic!

As far as working harder though, the incentive to work hard has been diminished by a shrinking Return on Investment (ROI) to the point where there are no profits or a loss and working hareder to keep posting a loss can't sustain itself. Just ask the IRS; If you don't make a profit how do you stay in business?

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Old 08-18-2010, 08:24 PM
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Oh great, not only is this a heated topic on buisness and peoples rights it's now a heated topic on religion!

Why don't we make some remarks on child labor and politics while we're at it.
BFD,

Just an interesting fact - don't let it bother you!

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Old 08-18-2010, 10:02 PM
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Just ask the IRS; If you don't make a profit how do you stay in business?
Non-profit organizations have been doing this for decades. Everybody working (and I use that term loosely) makes huge salaries, the organization itself makes zero. Also, the organization pays zero taxes, since it's non-profit.
Of course, employee's pay income tax, as rightly they should, and even the cat making $400K salary, if he had to pay 50% to taxes (which he doesn't) can probably live pretty well off $200K a year.
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