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Old 05-21-2013, 09:36 PM
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Default cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

Hi, this is my first post.
I started out playing djembe and have been slowly morphing into a cajon based drum faker over the last couple of years : )
Give it a year of naggin the wife and I'll have a kit methinks.

Anyway for now this is my current cajon kit set up:
Right Leg: pearl p100 bass drum pedal facing backwards.
Left Leg: tamborine strapped to lower leg.
Right Hand: cajon snare, side of cajon slaps
Left Hand: heck stick hi-hat faker thingy.

I would love some help with my next addition:
I want to add a cymbal that is supported/attached to the cajon to be hit by my right hand. I am thinking either hanging vertically from some kind of cymbal lug on the right side, or attached to a cymbal arm and mounted horizontal/traditionally off to the side of the cajon.
Is mounting a crash cymbal vertically practical in terms of sound and durability?
Am I better off with a proper arm extended out from the cajon?
Mounting it vertically would be neater and lighter.

Also what cymbals would you recommend for hand drummers? I have been thinking about an Istanbul Trash Crash. I tried one instore just briefly and it opens up nicely, even just with hands. Anything else old or new I should consider?

Might even have a go at making something like the UFIP Ximbau FX Cymbals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsrJzWwhzYw

This guy uses them and he sounds very cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0tAnH_zGw

Any help much appreciated.
Mike
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

Do you mean the "Trash Hit" cymbal from Istanbul (agop and mehmet)? I had a 12" one of those that was very cool. Sabian has the HHX Effeks crash which was sort of designed to be play with hand. Zildjian's FX Oriental Trash Splash is a nice one as well though it's not very thin.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

Sonor Safari time?

Hahahaha ;)
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

Oh, and as for the cymbal, I think it might be easier to just get a single-braced Yamaha stand for it. If you want to mount it, get light hardware and wide washers for the bracket.

(I second the Safari :) )
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

yeh sorry Trash Hit. Thanks for the tips on the other two types. Yeh having slept on it a few times maybe a stand is just a whole lot easier ; )
What about those Ximbau things - does the actual cymbal do much in the way of the sound or is mainly the rivets/jingles. Thinking of getting a cheap 12" and giving it a go. The Ximbau sounds pretty zany/trashy as is so maybe I can imitate on the cheap?
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

I'm pretty sure that the jingles are doing all the work. I think the cymbal isn't going to be able to ring due to it being cut in half. Look pretty cool though.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:07 AM
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I have had the 16" and 18" Sabian El Sabor Picante Hand Crash cymbals for about 3 years. I really like them.

http://www.sabian.com/en/cymbal/2166...nte-hand-crash

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Old 06-23-2013, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: cajon player getting some of that drummer stuff going on - cymbal tips?

I have both an Istanbul 16" Trash and a 17" Sabian HHX Effeks.

The Sabian is too loud and brash to go with a Cajon IMHO.
The trashes are nice, mellow and quiet. As a matter of fact I am looking for an 18" too.
I tried a few when I bought the first one and the variation is large. I think it depends on how much they have been bend. So try in a shop if possible.
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