DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussion forum for all drum related topics. Use this forum to exchange ideas and information with your fellow drummers.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-15-2018, 10:51 PM
Merlin5's Avatar
Merlin5 Merlin5 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London UK
Posts: 935
Default Drinking beer at a gig

As I sit drinking a beer, rare for me, I'm wondering if anyone here drinks alcohol at their gigs? I never do. I'm not much of a drinker at all and I'm glad because it's too expensive.

I enjoy the occasional beer. But on a gig? I'm always too worried that my timing would be all over the place, it only takes me one pint to feel woozy. On the other hand, some drummers probably need it or like it to feel relaxed or get in the zone.

It seems musicians are notorious for drinking but I'm not sure how many drummers are. Apart from a british drummer called Graham Jarvis who used to be Cliff Richard's regular drummer. Apparently he was an alcoholic who used to go through 20 + pints and still handle Cliff's gig perfectly! Seems like the alcohol killed him in the end as he's not around anymore. But this isn't meant to be morbid, I'm just curious who drinks and can handle it on gig and if they feel they play better or not.
__________________
No drums no life, know drums know life...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-15-2018, 10:59 PM
Dr_Watso's Avatar
Dr_Watso Dr_Watso is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,351
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Depends on the person.

Personally, maybe 50% of the time I'll have a beer on stage as I play. Not usually before. In that case another after the show too.

I get a little uppity if people in my band have more than one or two before/during our set.

On the other hand, someone who drinks a fair amount can have that and probably play better than without. When you play lots of drums under the influence of alcohol or anything for that matter, the neural pathways/muscle memory you create are slightly different, and easier to access in that same state of mind.
__________________
"I always wanted to be remembered for; being honest. Nothing else is worth a damn." - Lemmy
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:00 PM
mmulcahy1's Avatar
mmulcahy1 mmulcahy1 is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 2,087
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I might have a beer maybe an hour before a gig, but it's mainly water. I don't even like to eat or drink anything that's sugary before I play.
__________________
Gretsch Catalina Maple Drums / Ludwig Supraphonic Snare Drum / Paiste Giant Beat & 2oo2 Cymbals
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:08 PM
Merlin5's Avatar
Merlin5 Merlin5 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London UK
Posts: 935
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Watso View Post
Depends on the person.

Personally, maybe 50% of the time I'll have a beer on stage as I play. Not usually before. In that case another after the show too.

I get a little uppity if people in my band have more than one or two before/during our set.

On the other hand, someone who drinks a fair amount can have that and probably play better than without. When you play lots of drums under the influence of alcohol or anything for that matter, the neural pathways/muscle memory you create are slightly different, and easier to access in that same state of mind.
Hmm yeah. I guess that's somewhat dangerous because you then become almost totally reliant on alcohol in order to function as a drummer.
__________________
No drums no life, know drums know life...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:13 PM
Dr_Watso's Avatar
Dr_Watso Dr_Watso is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,351
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin5 View Post
Hmm yeah. I guess that's somewhat dangerous because you then become almost totally reliant on alcohol in order to function as a drummer.
Yep. I tend to avoid these types of guys in my bands when possible. As stated, they can often hold it together for a show even after slamming 3 steel reserve tall boys, but all the other associated non-sense involved with being around an alcoholic is always there.

One of the curses of the creative pursuits. Often the most creative people are the most apt to take risks and experiment by nature. Like anything, it has to be a balance, and balance is what's so difficult to achieve in our lives.
__________________
"I always wanted to be remembered for; being honest. Nothing else is worth a damn." - Lemmy
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:20 PM
J-Boogie J-Boogie is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,013
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Watso View Post
Depends on the person.

Personally, maybe 50% of the time I'll have a beer on stage as I play. Not usually before. In that case another after the show too.

I get a little uppity if people in my band have more than one or two before/during our set.

On the other hand, someone who drinks a fair amount can have that and probably play better than without. When you play lots of drums under the influence of alcohol or anything for that matter, the neural pathways/muscle memory you create are slightly different, and easier to access in that same state of mind.
Wow, so thats whats going on. I used to be a heartier partier and I used to get to a point where I was hitting on all cylinders...then very quickly not so much.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:21 PM
oldskoolsoul's Avatar
oldskoolsoul oldskoolsoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 448
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmulcahy1 View Post
..I might have a beer maybe an hour before a gig, but it's mainly water..

Are you buying them from England..?..lol..

I only have this from hearsay though, since i am a completely 0% alcohol person, always was..
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:26 PM
Merlin5's Avatar
Merlin5 Merlin5 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London UK
Posts: 935
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by oldskoolsoul View Post
Are you buying them from England..?..lol..

I only have this from hearsay though, since i am a completely 0% alcohol person, always was..
I'm in England and am currently drinking this. Potent enough for me. Though it's french beer. Very nice though. And the fries are tasty and they're british. :D

__________________
No drums no life, know drums know life...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:35 PM
Forcer's Avatar
Forcer Forcer is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 17
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

None if I'm driving, if not then I have a 2 beer max until after I've finished playing. Anything more than 2 and i'll enjoy myself, but everyone else won't so much....
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:41 PM
MasterBlaster
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I sound awesome when I play drunk.

I'm almost sure of it! :)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:46 PM
Push pull stroke Push pull stroke is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 1,447
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I mostly just play at church these days, so...3 or 4 beers, probably.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:46 PM
Groov-E Groov-E is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 819
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin5 View Post
I'm in England and am currently drinking this. Potent enough for me. Though it's french beer. Very nice though. And the fries are tasty and they're british. :D

Where's the pint of extra cold Guinness Lad ?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:49 PM
alparrott's Avatar
alparrott alparrott is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wenatchee, WA
Posts: 6,193
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I will have a beer or two at a gig most times, but I sip at it between songs rather than slug it down at once. My tolerance is pretty high, and I don't notice a lot of difference between playing with or without a beer - other than a need to go wee.
__________________
Al Parrott
"Jus suum cuique"
-------------------------------------------------------
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:54 PM
Merlin5's Avatar
Merlin5 Merlin5 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London UK
Posts: 935
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Groov-E View Post
Where's the pint of extra cold Guinness Lad ?
You're not kidding. I nearly ordered a Guiness but for some reason changed my mind.


Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBlaster View Post
I sound awesome when I play drunk.

I'm almost sure of it! :)
Is this you? :D

https://youtu.be/rJfojhVoBLw
__________________
No drums no life, know drums know life...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-15-2018, 11:58 PM
Forcer's Avatar
Forcer Forcer is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 17
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Of course, I actually get better at pool the more drunk I get ;-)
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-16-2018, 12:01 AM
Tamaefx's Avatar
Tamaefx Tamaefx is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: France
Posts: 713
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I take one beer or a glass of wine before the gig, mostly to shake off a bit of my anxiety and after itís water.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-16-2018, 12:26 AM
larryace's Avatar
larryace larryace is offline
"Uncle Larry"
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In beautiful Bucks County, PA
Posts: 20,446
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I drink some beer after I play.

It messes with my motor skills and it dulls my brain if I drink while I gig.

But that's exactly what I'm looking to experience after the gig.

If I am at an open mic jam, then I'll play even if I am drinking because I'm on my own time.
__________________
Levis/Hanes/Timberlands/Custom made socks
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-16-2018, 12:29 AM
TheElectricCompany's Avatar
TheElectricCompany TheElectricCompany is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 387
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

During my Zeppelin gig I'll drink as much as I feel like before and during the show, but I know my limits so I don't allow myself to get drunk.

At my cover gig I only have two or three because the atmosphere is different. I'll have a beer after set up then again during the two set breaks.

My tolerance is good.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-16-2018, 12:30 AM
opentune's Avatar
opentune opentune is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 6,021
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I'll have a beer mid-gig, or before last set, sipping between songs. Home stretch. Almost never before a gig.
Band I'm in as a tradition to do a group shot of tequila before the gig. I don't indulge in that at all, but am new, and have not the clout yet to tell them it affects their playing. Luckily we don't gig too often.
__________________
Louis
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-16-2018, 12:45 AM
Juniper's Avatar
Juniper Juniper is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Near London, UK
Posts: 1,066
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I drink soft drinks in the lead up but I'll maybe have one during the gig mostly. Just as happy with a water though.

Then will happily drink more afterwards when off stage.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-16-2018, 01:05 AM
MasterBlaster
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin5 View Post
Is this you? :D
Are you kidding? I would never angle my toms so radically!

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-16-2018, 02:37 AM
Frank's Avatar
Frank Frank is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,442
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I recently returned to gigging. 2 so far. No drinks yet.

Years ago, I would go slow and sip a few - limiting it to one per hour.

Since I have been back, I'm kind of afraid to have any alcohol during the gig. I don't want to drag the music, and, I'm feeling a stamina challenge, so I'm thinking alcohol is not a great idea anymore. But, I wouldn't mind a couple. I think I would enjoy it.
__________________
+
Frank
"I like to play" - Garth Algar
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-16-2018, 03:05 AM
MasterBlaster
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

One normal size drink per hour never hurt anyone.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-16-2018, 03:05 AM
williamsbclontz williamsbclontz is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: East Texas area
Posts: 521
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

So I can drink a couple of beers during a gig, but if I have a cup of coffee I can barely play...
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-16-2018, 03:33 AM
Red Menace's Avatar
Red Menace Red Menace is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AZ
Posts: 2,801
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I'm pretty spoiled at the College bar gigs with my originals band these days. I like a nice hoppy beer before I play and then drink tall cans of cheap stuff while I'm playing. Only one other member of the band drinks so we split the drink tickets between the two of us.
__________________
Classy grip all day.

Mah Rogers
Snares
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 05-16-2018, 10:16 AM
Prawny Prawny is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 133
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I'm always the driver at gigs so rarely drink and play.

I might have one, but its pretty rare, not that I wouldn't have one, but I just don't ever seem too. I'm not the type to get tanked at a gig.

My former bandmates however... my old originals band were a bunch of wreckheads (we were all around 18 so I was the odd one out) and could play gigs fine absolutely wasted, no so great at functioning as people but the gigs were good ebough. I was in a covers band too around the same time and the singer was a barely functioning everything-aholic, I left that band in the end because it was embarrassing the second half of every gig sounded awful and he wouldn't sort himself out.
__________________
Back in the game
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-16-2018, 01:00 PM
Sebenza Sebenza is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Antwerp, Belgium
Posts: 71
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin5 View Post
I'm in England and am currently drinking this. Potent enough for me. Though it's french beer. Very nice though. And the fries are tasty and they're british. :D

The reason it's "very nice" is because it's a belgian beer, not french. The frogs know about wine making, but zilch about producing a decent beer. For that, you'll have to go a bit up north where the world champion brewers are :-)

On topic, one of the reasons why I'm religious with the 'don't drink and drive' thing, is because I very quickly learned through drumming how much even a small amount of alcohol will impair your reflexes and mind-body connection. One or two beers, and I already experience some kind of delay between what my mind tells my body to do and when my body does it.
So I never drink when I have to drive or play drums!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-16-2018, 01:27 PM
SquadLeader's Avatar
SquadLeader SquadLeader is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Near Manchester, Great Britain
Posts: 1,297
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Being lucky enough to have a motorhome these days, one of the great pleasures in life is going the gig with the bandmates and having a drink before, during, and after the gig (and crashing over wherever we are playing).

Does it effect our playing...quite probably. But everyone seems to have a great time, including most importantly our audiences. So, bollocks to it, we're enjoying it whilst we can.

A friend of our band died last week. 49. Just dropped dead. Heart failure. A drummer friend out of another band died yesterday. Cancer. Under 50 years old also.

Live life...it's no rehearsal. Take whatever you can out of it is my mindset these days.
__________________
I lost my bag at Newport Pagnell.....
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-16-2018, 02:37 PM
Groov-E Groov-E is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Canada
Posts: 819
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by SquadLeader View Post

A friend of our band died last week. 49. Just dropped dead. Heart failure. A drummer friend out of another band died yesterday. Cancer. Under 50 years old also.

Live life...it's no rehearsal. Take whatever you can out of it is my mindset these days.
Sorry to hear that, my sympathies.

Another take on this is to actually tone down a bit and take it easy(er). Stack the odds in our favour if you will and take the chance to actually make it to a venerable age. Prevention is often the best remedy, or at least can't hurt.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-16-2018, 02:44 PM
eclipseownzu's Avatar
eclipseownzu eclipseownzu is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New London, CT
Posts: 1,446
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

It usually depends on who the other bands are. Some bands we are great friends with and we tend to party a little more. Other shows, especially with national headliners, we tend to focus more on the playing and maintaining at least a modicum of professionalism. Our last show was with a band from Boston who insisted on doing Jager shots before, during and after the show. As the direct support band we had done about a dozen shots before we hit the stage. Thankfully the show went off without a hitch, and more importantly all of my gear made it back into the van, although I am still not sure how.

On a side note I can play the drums in just about any state and pull off a passable performance. But a couple drinks and my guitar playing goes to hell, so I have a pretty strict no drinking at gigs policy with that band.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 05-16-2018, 02:45 PM
PorkPieGuy's Avatar
PorkPieGuy PorkPieGuy is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,222
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I don't drink before or during a gig. I'll have a beer or two whenever I get home to help me wind down. Heck, even after music practices at church, I'll have a couple when I get home to settle my mind.

With the band I'm in, I'm not afraid of practicing while I have a beer. I usually have one while we rehearse because I'm already at home. Even when we play gigs where alcohol is served, I never drink anything because I'm afraid of getting sleepy on the way home.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-16-2018, 03:08 PM
MustangMick MustangMick is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Dundalk, Ireland
Posts: 145
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Drinking alcohol during a gig just looks unprofessional to me.
No-one would turn up to their day job and drink beers

Each to their own though
Mick
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-16-2018, 05:22 PM
J-Boogie J-Boogie is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 1,013
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Im with you GetA, although it was like two months ago, not decades....and man does it feel great!!! Now I keep my back super slippery, aint no monkeys hanging on there!
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-16-2018, 05:53 PM
eric_B's Avatar
eric_B eric_B is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 450
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

I think there are (too) many variables to give one answer: paid gig vs just playing for fun, location, setting, occasion, audience, expectations, etc.

If I would come to a formal wedding and would see the band drinking more than the guests than I would seriously question their professionalism.
On the other hand: there are some local parties out in the country over here where the band is expected to join the festivities (even be offended if they didn't) and nobody cares if their playing gets sloppier - they wouldn't even notice. Those bands are even in demand because they get a party going.

When I was gigging we all would drink one beer before the gig and one during a break (and maybe a couple afterward but that's not relevant for the gig). It helped us to relax but stay focused as well. We were just playing for fun although we took it serious to perform well and got paid (a little) for some gigs.

In general I would say: the more professional and paid for: no drinking vs the more for fun, the more acceptable (until it sounds like crap or you can't stand/sit straight up anymore).
That being said: there were and are famous musicians filling stadiums being stoned as a frog and still perform and the audience loves them.

Not one answer...
__________________
A kit: Gretsch Renown
E kit: TD-9KX
Masterwork cymbals...Guru snares

Last edited by eric_B; 05-16-2018 at 06:14 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-16-2018, 06:28 PM
mmulcahy1's Avatar
mmulcahy1 mmulcahy1 is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 2,087
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Originally Posted by MustangMick View Post
Drinking alcohol during a gig just looks unprofessional to me.
No-one would turn up to their day job and drink beers.
Who says?






;-)
__________________
Gretsch Catalina Maple Drums / Ludwig Supraphonic Snare Drum / Paiste Giant Beat & 2oo2 Cymbals
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-16-2018, 07:54 PM
philrudd's Avatar
philrudd philrudd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 417
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Of course. I have a shot of tequila before practice and before gigs; I saw a documentary on how Mexican bronco riders would take a shot before they mounted the horse, in order to 'smooth their muscles'. Works for drummers, too, it turns out.

And I have a few beers during. Never so many that I get tipsy (that's for afterwards), but I've always got a cold one next to my throne. I'm the high-strung type, so a drink or two beforehand can be really beneficial in keeping tempos from speeding up. And I seem to sweat out the alcohol so fast, it's almost impossible to get drunk during the gig.

To be honest, I can't imagine gigging without booze. It's all a big party to me. Having a drink while playing drums just seems celebratory: 'a set of drums, a jug of wine, and thou...' (with 'thou' being a good-looking woman).
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-16-2018, 08:58 PM
Otto Otto is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,521
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

No matter how experienced a substance user you are, you can pass the point of functional deficit without meaning to.

Short of addicts who need the substance to come up to a 'normal' level(who should be admitted to an inpatient recovery program immediately), I would say it is a potential detriment, at best, to anyone's playing and not worth the risk.

Any substance...including over the counter medications.

Its a matter of professionalism.

Same for practices and business meetings.

You wanna potentially waste your own time...sure...but when other people are involved that count on you...derp!
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-16-2018, 09:14 PM
MasterBlaster
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Heck yea!

Quote:
Short of addicts who need the substance to come up to a 'normal' level(who should be admitted to an inpatient recovery program immediately)
Everyone knows horsepistols are inexpensive and have plenty of empty beds to welcome them!
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-16-2018, 11:05 PM
ottog1979 ottog1979 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 99
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Quote:
Drinking alcohol during a gig just looks unprofessional to me.
No-one would turn up to their day job and drink beers
Except that, at most of the gigs I play (and I would venture the majority of others here on DW) our job is to help the bar SELL beer/drinks. So whether you're actually doing it or not, making it seem like a party is one of the reasons the band is there in the first place. Weddings, full-on concerts, etc. excepted.

I have a beer, maybe two over the course of a 3-4 hour gig. A little bit of sugar during the evening helps. Most of the time though, I'm so busy & engaged I can't get through more than one beer anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-17-2018, 04:39 AM
GruntersDad's Avatar
GruntersDad GruntersDad is offline
Administrator - Mayor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gulf Coast Seminole, Florida
Posts: 22,112
Default Re: Drinking beer at a gig

Just another reminder of posts about the use of illegal drugs. Move on.
__________________
johnny
Suum cuique tribuere....
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com