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Old 09-14-2018, 08:52 PM
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Default Bass drum batter head and beater rebound

Up until a couple of weeks ago, our rehearsal space had a maple Pearl drum set with a coated Remo PS3 bass drum head on the batter side. It sounded great and, just as importantly, had a great feel to it - singles and doubles were quick and clean.

Since then, I've bought a set of used TAMA Silverstar drums made from birch. The bass drum came equipped with a slightly used clear Evans EMAD batter head. The drum sounds really good, as well, but the feel is a little sluggish. I'm wondering if that is due to the general properties of the batter head itself or the way I've tuned the drum. With the Pearl kit, I tuned it by ear, but I've been using a tuning app on the TAMAs and I've tuned the bass drum to the lowest recommended frequency (i.e. D1 for a 22" bass drum).

Should I switch back to a PS3 (or a PS4) batter head or tune the drum a little tighter (e.g. E2) to get back the rebound and feel that I'm missing?

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Old 09-14-2018, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: Bass drum batter head and beater rebound

Before switching back, I would try tuning the TAMA by ear, as you did the pearl in the past, and see if it feels closer to what you like. Also, if you can, can you still access the pearl and check IT with the tuning app as well? If for no other reason than to see where it sits (compared to the EMAD).

Either way, I would still mess around with it and try several tunings before "throwing in the towel" (Damping pun not intended) and switching back.


Personally, I like the EMAD. (although I have not used the PS3, or 4, for comparison).


Good luck, and keep us posted as to your results.

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Old 09-14-2018, 09:36 PM
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Tune the Emad the same as the PS3---sluggish feel is directly caused by how loose the head is. (assuming the same pedal)
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Default Re: Bass drum batter head and beater rebound

Hmm. Do both kits have vented resonant heads? Solid?

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Default Re: Bass drum batter head and beater rebound

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Hmm. Do both kits have vented resonant heads? Solid?
No ports on the heads. Both resonate heads are stock heads with the company's logo.

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Before switching back, I would try tuning the TAMA by ear, as you did the pearl in the past, and see if it feels closer to what you like. Also, if you can, can you still access the pearl and check IT with the tuning app as well? If for no other reason than to see where it sits (compared to the EMAD).
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Tune the Emad the same as the PS3---sluggish feel is directly caused by how loose the head is. (assuming the same pedal)
Went in and hit the Pearl first thing and then the TAMA; the Pearl bass drums was tuned up a fair bit higher (around a G note). So I tuned the TAMA up from a D to a G and, voila, it now sings and plays great.

I think my problem was tuning the TAMA to the lowest recommended note and not realizing how it would affect the rebound of the beater.

Thanks for the help!
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Default Re: Bass drum batter head and beater rebound

I'm guessing you play heel down, don't you?

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I'm guessing you play heel down, don't you?

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Hmm, wondering why you ask. I play heel up all the time and I never bury the beater.
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