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Old 01-17-2018, 07:26 AM
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Just wanted to get this thread started!

I noticed that Bosphorus Cymbals has a new line out, which I believe they'll debut at NAMM: the Syncopation Series.

Boston Drum Center has a pretty good demo of the hats, crashes, and rides, which has just been posted. There are two lines in the Syncopation Series: "Lathed" and "SW" (sand washed). The SW cymbals are supposed to have more definition and shorter sustain than their shinier siblings. Both lines are nicely, heavily hammered.

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Zildjian’s coming out with a whole new series in the K line that’s based off the A Sweet Ride they’ve had for a while.
I started a thread over in Cymbals about them, which I’ll link here
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...d.php?t=139965
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I'll have to take everyone's word on how great the new cymbals will sound. NAMM sucks when it comes to actually hearing the new instruments! The show floor is so loud with everyone making noise you might as well forget trying to hear any cool subtleties there might be.

Now if I could take some of those new cymbals upstairs to the Pearl room that would be another matter.....
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Meinl has some new stuff, most of the Byzance new ones are in this Bonedo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ikpqd6sQ64

Polyphonic ride sounds great to me. Going to be picking one of those up.
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Tama is coming out with some cool gear, shown here.

The new pedal is a throwback.

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Ludwig has the raw brass snare, basically a Black Beauty without the black finish, and raw patina a la the Copperphonic. Affectionately known as the Raw Beauty™ :)

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Roland came up with new PA systems for e drums. PAM 100 and 200 I think.

Tama made the new S.L.P. kits which are mid range


Tama also came up with new finishes and sizes for their Superstar Hyperdrive which I'm excited about.

Tama also made some vintage styled hardware which is super cool
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Ludwig has the raw brass snare, basically a Black Beauty without the black finish, and raw patina a la the Copperphonic. Affectionately known as the Raw Beauty™ :)

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I saw a few of those on Reverb the last few weeks. Very cool looking. Really tempted to buy one, just hard to justify another snare. Seeing as your a Ludwig guy, did you know if this is a short run of drums or something that’ll be offered for a long time?
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LUDWIG should modernize the L201, call it the 'SPEED QUEEN'.

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Tama is coming out with some cool gear, shown here.

The new pedal is a throwback.

I had the original made by Tama back in the 70s - which is a Swiv-O-Matic copy! Good pedal though!
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Any new finishes for Pearl Masters kits or Gretsch USA Customs? Tama has some new finishes for Star and Starclassic.

Meinl Traditional Polyphonic and Jazz Monophonic ride cymbals sound pretty good, as do the Bosphorus Syncopation rides.
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LUDWIG should modernize the L201, call it the 'SPEED QUEEN'.
I think Electrolux owns the name, although the druggie/cross-dressing thing isn't lost on me. :O

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I saw a few of those on Reverb the last few weeks. Very cool looking. Really tempted to buy one, just hard to justify another snare. Seeing as your a Ludwig guy, did you know if this is a short run of drums or something that’ll be offered for a long time?
It's a catalog item, unless it simply stops selling. I think it will do well though. Sound-wise, it's a Black Beauty, which is great. But most drummers like a little extra visual, and they look pretty cool. I think they'll be around a while, along with the Copperphonic.

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LUDWIG should modernize the L201, call it the 'SPEED QUEEN'.

Her time is now, hand over the reigns.
I think Maytag has that patent name already.
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Any new finishes for Pearl Masters kits or Gretsch USA Customs? Tama has some new finishes for Star and Starclassic.

Meinl Traditional Polyphonic and Jazz Monophonic ride cymbals sound pretty good, as do the Bosphorus Syncopation rides.
Gretsch will likely do some finishes "off the menu" if you find a dealer who has good working relationship with the factory. I've confirmed that recently. They go so far as to state it in the price-list I've seen.

"Color matching and custom finishes available"

My dealer said DW has brought expanded color options to Gretsch. In general, the finishes should be available across the USA Custom, Broadkaster and Brooklyn lines.

Yep, Tama has some interesting additions. I am particularly interested in the Star Walnut and the Indigo Japanese Sen Burst finish. Very tempting as Tama is making some of the very best drums (and integrated hardware) on the planet in my opinion. Plus, you can get the sizes some don't offer in the "flagship" lines (14" depth bass drums, 15" floor toms etc). Maybe the best value in "high-end" ply drums now.

I am glad to see the Classic light-weight stand series expanded (completed), including a tom/snare stand for those that prefer a lighter alternative to the Star Series tom stand. I suspect Tama will have none of the issues DW (and others) have seen with slipping or stripped tilters etc.

Still would like to see Tama offer tom holder on their bass drums for the Star Series. Their shells should be able to handle that.
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Sabian came out with their own version of Zildjian's L80 cymbals called "Quiet Tone" cymbals:

http://www.sabian.com/en/pages/quiet-tone

But I don't think these are technically NAMM material since they are available now in North America. Well, I take that back. Technically they say they are available world wide in spring, so maybe they are Not Available Maybe May material.
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But I don't think these are technically NAMM material since they are available now in North America. Well, I take that back. Technically they say they are available world wide in spring, so maybe they are Not Available Maybe May material.

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Oh wow. Tama made new 600 series pedals. They look really cool. Check them out
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Tama's new Hand Hammered Copper Star Reserve Snare looks and sounds amazing, I gotta have one.
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Tama's new Hand Hammered Copper Star Reserve Snare looks and sounds amazing, I gotta have one.
That does look amazing! I'd love to hear it in person.

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Tama made the new S.L.P. kits which are mid range
The S.L.P.s are priced at mid range, but they are not typical mid range drums. They are actually R&D creations, available to the public (at really good prices) to allow the R&D team to experiment and also see what public acceptance is (and make money on their creations). It's actually a brilliant marketing/R&D strategy if you have a company that can afford to do that (which Tama obviously can).
Disclaimer: I'm a Tama fan :), but the concept seems very cool to me.
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That does look amazing! I'd love to hear it in person.


The S.L.P.s are priced at mid range, but they are not typical mid range drums. They are actually R&D creations, available to the public (at really good prices) to allow the R&D team to experiment and also see what public acceptance is (and make money on their creations). It's actually a brilliant marketing/R&D strategy if you have a company that can afford to do that (which Tama obviously can).
Disclaimer: I'm a Tama fan :), but the concept seems very cool to me.
Yes, great idea Tama! That slp line is definitely going places.

The spruce one though I need to play as it has a special place in my heart, as it is the obiquitous species we see when we go outdoors up north.

For the foul-tasting beer it has given its name to, the damaged snowmobiles / cross-country skiers, and for every ruined campfire it has ever been in, I'd be more than happy to give it the whacking of a lifetime it deserves !
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Tama's new Hand Hammered Copper Star Reserve Snare looks and sounds amazing, I gotta have one.
It looks very similar to the one they did before. What are the specs? Not that I'd get one, because I have a 5.5x14 of the old version. If the Star version sounds as good as the old one, it's a he'll of a snare. Think bell brass but warmer. I've been asked if it was a DW edge before, at shows.
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It looks very similar to the one they did before. What are the specs? Not that I'd get one, because I have a 5.5x14 of the old version. If the Star version sounds as good as the old one, it's a he'll of a snare. Think bell brass but warmer. I've been asked if it was a DW edge before, at shows.
Check the bottom of the page, Volume 4 http://www.tama.com/STAR/snare.html#no4
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Yes, great idea Tama! That slp line is definitely going places.

The spruce one though I need to play as it has a special place in my heart, as it is the obiquitous species we see when we go outdoors up north.

For the foul-tasting beer it has given its name to, the damaged snowmobiles / cross-country skiers, and for every ruined campfire it has ever been in, I'd be more than happy to give it the whacking of a lifetime it deserves !
This made me laugh, as we spend about 120 days a year at our cabin in northern VT, we can relate to the place Spruce trees have in your heart. There is nothing that relaxes me more than the smell of a spruce forest in the fall during hunting season.

Curious how the drums sound......
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DW posted a video on a new kit with wood from Tasmania, a limited edition to the collector's series. Kinda interesting, although probably very expensive...


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Check the bottom of the page, Volume 4 http://www.tama.com/STAR/snare.html#no4
Thanks for the link. I couldn't quite figure out what was going on with the shell depth and lugs, because the lugs look similar to the ones one my 5.5", but smaller and only 8 lugs, made it look huge.
I'm guessing that it's a completely different beast with a thinner shell, no diecast rims, and fewer lugs, is probably more "open" sounding, then the old one.
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Check the bottom of the page, Volume 4 http://www.tama.com/STAR/snare.html#no4
Well, now that I saw/heard that, I want one even more.
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This made me laugh, as we spend about 120 days a year at our cabin in northern VT, we can relate to the place Spruce trees have in your heart. There is nothing that relaxes me more than the smell of a spruce forest in the fall during hunting season.

Curious how the drums sound......
Yup well your northern front is 200 miles south of my home base. Cover up 200 miles north from there and them spruce's relaxing fragrance start to lose some of their innate charm!

Then again, spruce beer with a nice Ungava gin and we can talk spruce drums all night.

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Tama is coming out with some cool gear, shown here.

The new pedal is a throwback.

Rogers is reintroducing a pedal called the Dyno Matic and it looks suspiciously like the Tama.
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Rogers is reintroducing a pedal called the Dyno Matic and it looks suspiciously like the Tama.
Any pics of it yet? I’m curious if the two pedals come out of the same Chinese factory that makes practically everyone’s hardware these days.
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Rogers is reintroducing a pedal called the Dyno Matic and it looks suspiciously like the Tama.
Well, considering Rogers was the first to produce this type of pedal and called it the Swiv-O-Matic years before Tama existed as a brand, I think it's ok. In fact, when Tama hit around 1975 or so, one of their pedals called the Pro Beat looked like a Swiv-O-Matic on steroids.
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Any pics of it yet? I’m curious if the two pedals come out of the same Chinese factory that makes practically everyone’s hardware these days.

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Yes! That pedal looks awesome, and I like the design a lot more than the tama.
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Canopus looks like it has some new snares:

1. R.O.F. Project #1 Snare:
http://canopusdrums.com/en/rof/

2. An L30 (limited series, 30 snares produced) Glass Fiber snare:
http://canopusdrums.com/en/product/l30-glassfiber/

The ROF is supposed to be a "mystical" (my word choice, playing off of Canopus's Holy-Grail language) attempt to reproduce the aluminum snare drum sound of the 1960s and 1970s. The snare is 6.5x14 Aluminum Alloy 1mm w/Chrome-plated, 1.6mm steel hoop, 10 lugs, Vintage snare wires, internal muffler.

The Glass Fiber snare is a braided shell composed of glass fiber, making the shell supposedly lighter and thinner (1.5mm). Eight lugs, die-cast hoops, Canopus Back-beat snare wires.
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Teaser of Ludwig Neusonic: https://youtu.be/UjHrYJUq-yg
Cherry/Maple shells, yummy!

Absolutely love the Tama stuff. What I am missing is a direct drive pedal from them.

Well, these will do it too: https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/ima...8441/image.png
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Tama's new Hand Hammered Copper Star Reserve Snare looks and sounds amazing, I gotta have one.
Watched a couple of vids + Cascio 20% off coupon = New snare on the way. ;)
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Plenty of original mystical Acrolyte snares out there used but excellent-mint condition for under $200 and all would have that mystical sound. Amazing hyperbole marketing there.

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Canopus looks like it has some new snares:

1. R.O.F. Project #1 Snare:
http://canopusdrums.com/en/rof/

2. An L30 (limited series, 30 snares produced) Glass Fiber snare:
http://canopusdrums.com/en/product/l30-glassfiber/

The ROF is supposed to be a "mystical" (my word choice, playing off of Canopus's Holy-Grail language) attempt to reproduce the aluminum snare drum sound of the 1960s and 1970s. The snare is 6.5x14 Aluminum Alloy 1mm w/Chrome-plated, 1.6mm steel hoop, 10 lugs, Vintage snare wires, internal muffler.

The Glass Fiber snare is a braided shell composed of glass fiber, making the shell supposedly lighter and thinner (1.5mm). Eight lugs, die-cast hoops, Canopus Back-beat snare wires.
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I can already get my Blackro to sound like “Cissy Strut”, without the mystical Canopus snare! ;)
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What exactly do you like about this Rogers pedal better than comparable new Tama pedal???

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One step tuning device for drums by Welch Tuning Systems:

https://www.welchtuningsystems.com/b...s-and-features
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