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Old 05-17-2018, 12:17 AM
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Hi all,

I'm trying to get a part-time job in music retail (e.g. Guitar Center, Sam Ash) and I only have playing experience... about 5 years of gigging, although I'm very knowledgeable about gear including guitars, basses, and amps / pro audio. Any advice on getting your first music store gig?
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:48 AM
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GC and to a degree, Sam Ash really don't give a rear end about your playing experience.

They are sales organizations. It's about sales.

Learn how to be a good salesman, they'll love you.

Otherwise, well, they have very high turn over for a reason.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:58 AM
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GC and to a degree, Sam Ash really don't give a rear end about your playing experience.

They are sales organizations. It's about sales.

Learn how to be a good salesman, they'll love you.

Otherwise, well, they have very high turn over for a reason.
Agreed. I worked for Goodman Music in the early 90s and it has nothing to do with you being a musician. It has everything to do with you selling stuff. I say learn how to get people to talk about themselves and what their dreams are, and point them towards gear that will help with that. It has nothing to do with you, just make their monthly goals and you should be ok.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:20 AM
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I worked in a few music stores when I was younger. Both mom & pop shops, and the big chain location. I'll say this, the mom & pop stores are 1000x better. I really HATE the chains stores and working there is one of the main reasons. The environment was awful, the staff was awful, and customers (like myself) are awful.
I also had to deal with a lot of jealousy on my own personal level. Every hack that would come in and stock up on stick and heads for a tour made me go "why not me?"

If I ever had to return to a real "day job" for some reason, I can tell you this. I would NEVER go back to working in a music store, unless it was a little quiet mom & pop store.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:36 AM
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My bestie worked in a local music store for about 4 years. He loved it, he ate like a king because the shop was inbetween a really good bakery, a sandwich shop, chippy and a breakfast café.

There was also some grade A* nutters and some really deluded local musicians. There was a guy that come in who thought he was Freddie Mercury trying to buy a mic boom arm doing all the moves as well.

Personally I hate the big stores, usually I know what I want and nothing gets on my tits more than a salesman who isn't a musician trying to flog me stuff I don't want or need.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:59 AM
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GC and to a degree, Sam Ash really don't give a rear end about your playing experience.

They are sales organizations. It's about sales.

Learn how to be a good salesman, they'll love you.

Otherwise, well, they have very high turn over for a reason.
I agree with this as well. I don't want to discourage you, but I spent a summer working in a music store and I hated every second of it. It's my least favorite job I've ever had. I spent my days trawling through shelves with a clip board and writing down inventory numbers, cleaning rental equipment for beginner drummers, etc. Occasionally I'd get the odd cool job where I got to rewrap a drum, or refurb a set of vibes, but those were few and far between. Most days were spent watching the clock tick by second by agonizing second.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:30 PM
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Thanks for the warning! I guess now I understand the weird vibes I get when I shop in a big chain... and to look out for small stores.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:37 PM
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forget everything you know about gear and learn to ignore shoppers looking for assistance and you will fit right in

;)

in all seriousness ... when I was younger and looking to apply at one of these big horrible chain music stores at the interview I was told to go try to get a job at Bloomindales or Macys or something like that and get some sales experience then come back in a few months ... my years of experience as a musician and extensive knowledge of drum gear meant absolutely nothing to them

whenever humanly possible I try to not spend a dime at these horrible establishments

they are puppy mills for instruments
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:54 PM
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I agree with that, but I do my own research and have been playing for years. If someone tries to up sell me right away I'm out.

What I do respect is when I can go in, get what I want, and talk drums with a guy for 30 minutes if he knows his stuff. One of my buddies at the shop actually helps people NOT waste their money on things they don't need, or will save someone from an upgrade in a few months.

They are not ALL that bad. The more you know, the more people will take you seriously too. As long as your friendly and passionate about drums/music you are the right person for the job.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:05 PM
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Man, I would have KILLED to work in a music store when I was younger.

Jobs I had to do as a kid:

Throw hay
String and break beans
Shuck and silk corn
Dig potatoes
Plow
Chase cattle back into fences that got out
Feed chickens and gather eggs (while avoiding angry roosters)
Raising dogs and everything that goes with that
Mowing grass
Weed eating
Etc.
Payment? I got to live at home with my parents and eat.

My first paying job?
15 years old - Worked as a busboy in a local seafood restaurant. Worked about 25-30 hours a week. Pay was $4/hour.

When I was 16, I got a job at a nursing home kitchen at $4.35/hour. I'll let your imagination run wild there in terms of what the food was like. Worked about 30 hours a week during the year, and I worked more when I had breaks in school. My senior prom night? I was scrubbing floors in the kitchen. I still have stains on my hands from the abrasive cleaner we had to use on the floors. No one told me to wear gloves. That was over 25 years ago.

Someone offers you a job, you take it. Start filling people's cars and trucks with PA and drums. Talk little-rockstar-wannabes into springing for the full stack instead of the amp. Start throwing ukuleles at hipsters as soon as they walk in the door. You be the one who balances the humidity in the acoustic guitar room. Be nice to people, shake hands, and make deals. Show up 10 min. early, stay 10 min. late, and work the whole time you are there. Any day you get to work in air conditioning in the summer is a good day.

Quit griping and start slinging some gear.

Just my $.02.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:29 PM
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GC and to a degree, Sam Ash really don't give a rear end about your playing experience.

They are sales organizations. It's about sales.

Learn how to be a good salesman, they'll love you.

Otherwise, well, they have very high turn over for a reason.
I knew a couple of guys that worked GC.
Lousy pay and bennies with no job security.

I read one of their sales training brochures and it was about selling the dream.

If you're any good at playing ,try giving lessons at the stores.
Music retail,like retail in general, is a low paid crappy job.
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Go in, ask for a job application. Or maybe they do online applications now.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:41 PM
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In a word: DON'T!

Did it for GC or about 8 months before I wanted to punch various managers (and MANY "drum expert" customers) in the face.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:44 PM
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Man, I would have KILLED to work in a music store when I was younger.

Jobs I had to do as a kid:

Throw hay
String and break beans
Shuck and silk corn
Dig potatoes
Plow
Chase cattle back into fences that got out
Feed chickens and gather eggs (while avoiding angry roosters)
Raising dogs and everything that goes with that
Mowing grass
Weed eating
Etc.
Payment? I got to live at home with my parents and eat.

Just my $.02.
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