Jonathan Curtis
Silver Member
Hello all,
I'm having trouble getting my head around Charley Wilcoxon's Three Camps transcription. I've been playing this for a while, and thought I had it down, but I recently sat down to work through it slowly with a metronome to work on my doubles technique, and had trouble squaring it with how I thought it was supposed to sound.
I thought it had a triplet feel: DAH dugga dugga DAH dugga dugga DAH dugga dugga dugga dugga dugga DAH dugga DAG dugga dugga DAH etc.
However, on page 44 of CW's Modern Rudimental Swing Solos for the Advanced Drummer, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Unfortunately, I can't find an online transcription to show people, but it is written as follows:
EDIT: Transcription found, see link at end.
Beat 1 is a crotchet, two and three are 32nds accenting on a 16th, and beat for is 32nds as an 11-tuplet, with the accent on eleven over the barline. Assuming everyone understands me so far, this doesn't seem to produce the triplet feel. Do you know what I mean? Anyone that has the book, please take a look on page 44. Set the metronome to 60, and the feel is different.
What am I missing?
Furthermore, can anyone help me square the eleven stroke roll as written with the timing? How do you count it? It takes up almost the entire of beat 4 (bar 1), but not quite. With a metronome at 60, I can't seem to start on beat 4 and end with the accent on beat 1 as written. Also, bar 2 seems to not contain enough beats.
As you can see, I'm struggling to get my head around the transcription of this piece. Please note that these aren't performance or technique questions about the double stroke roll.
I look forward to hearing some input, thanks.
EDIT: Here we go: http://www.scribd.com/doc/48160282/...n-rudimental-swing-solos-for-advanced-drummer Navigate to p.44
I'm having trouble getting my head around Charley Wilcoxon's Three Camps transcription. I've been playing this for a while, and thought I had it down, but I recently sat down to work through it slowly with a metronome to work on my doubles technique, and had trouble squaring it with how I thought it was supposed to sound.
I thought it had a triplet feel: DAH dugga dugga DAH dugga dugga DAH dugga dugga dugga dugga dugga DAH dugga DAG dugga dugga DAH etc.
However, on page 44 of CW's Modern Rudimental Swing Solos for the Advanced Drummer, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Unfortunately, I can't find an online transcription to show people, but it is written as follows:
EDIT: Transcription found, see link at end.
Beat 1 is a crotchet, two and three are 32nds accenting on a 16th, and beat for is 32nds as an 11-tuplet, with the accent on eleven over the barline. Assuming everyone understands me so far, this doesn't seem to produce the triplet feel. Do you know what I mean? Anyone that has the book, please take a look on page 44. Set the metronome to 60, and the feel is different.
What am I missing?
Furthermore, can anyone help me square the eleven stroke roll as written with the timing? How do you count it? It takes up almost the entire of beat 4 (bar 1), but not quite. With a metronome at 60, I can't seem to start on beat 4 and end with the accent on beat 1 as written. Also, bar 2 seems to not contain enough beats.
As you can see, I'm struggling to get my head around the transcription of this piece. Please note that these aren't performance or technique questions about the double stroke roll.
I look forward to hearing some input, thanks.
EDIT: Here we go: http://www.scribd.com/doc/48160282/...n-rudimental-swing-solos-for-advanced-drummer Navigate to p.44