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Old 10-24-2012, 04:03 PM
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ok , so you mean each book takes a year to cover it up ?! so means I'm totaly wrong about it
By the way thx man.
cheers
I don't know the best way for YOU but I'm doing stick control one page per week. I do the whole page for 30 minutes every day for a week before I move on to the next one. I do it 30 minutes with my hands and 30 minutes with my feet. Dom famularo recommends this.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:52 PM
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You can do what you want with the speed cobra, However the speed cobra has the cobra coil under the pedal. It will loose it's effect if your pedals are high.
I have a 20" K ride BTW. Sounds great.
Thanks mate, but looks like the Coil isn't for me. The way my feet "works", only the high footboard makes me feel comfortable. I don't really have a fast feet, and I don't really need them to be fast. I'm only doing fast(er) fills, filling in the "gaps" with 2,3 or max 5-6 32nd notes, but no "machine gun-like ratatata-stuff". Thats not for me! And the stuff I can do is more than enough for the kind of music I like to play. Still, If I do anything fast or a bit more complicated, the slight discomfort grows in my feet if I have the footboard low. It's probably because of my sport-background (gymnastics and kick-boxing). I probably messed up my ankles. :(

And regarding the K ride... Would you mind If I'd hate you for owning one? ;)

Cheers,
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:58 PM
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cool note. I do practice with realistic rock these days. Good one!
But I'll work on mentioned book as well soon.
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I don't know the best way for YOU but I'm doing stick control one page per week. I do the whole page for 30 minutes every day for a week before I move on to the next one. I do it 30 minutes with my hands and 30 minutes with my feet. Dom famularo recommends this.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:48 PM
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Where is Gavin ? Still in China!!
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:52 AM
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Where is Gavin ? Still in China!!
Yeah, he was in Beijing today
In Chengdu tomorrow and thats the end of that clinic tour.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:00 PM
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Thanks mate, but looks like the Coil isn't for me. The way my feet "works", only the high footboard makes me feel comfortable. I don't really have a fast feet, and I don't really need them to be fast. I'm only doing fast(er) fills, filling in the "gaps" with 2,3 or max 5-6 32nd notes, but no "machine gun-like ratatata-stuff". Thats not for me! And the stuff I can do is more than enough for the kind of music I like to play. Still, If I do anything fast or a bit more complicated, the slight discomfort grows in my feet if I have the footboard low. It's probably because of my sport-background (gymnastics and kick-boxing). I probably messed up my ankles. :(

And regarding the K ride... Would you mind If I'd hate you for owning one? ;)

Cheers,
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Of course it's still a great pedal even without the cobra coil. I'm not sure I notice any difference with the cobra coil anyway, all I know is that I really like these pedals.

Haha I bought a Tama Starclassic Maple kit from a guy that gave me a good bargain. I said sure, but only if I can get your K ride thrown in with the kit :D

I got it for free, and I got the kit cheaper than he wanted to sell it for.

BTW Gavin: What do you think is the most effective way to practice? Doing maybe one or two exercises per day for long periods of time like an hour each and practice those for like 2-3 weeks and the move on to something else. Or... do you think it's more effective to practice many things for maybe 15 minutes each and do that for a longer time say 2 months until moving on?

I'm talking about exercises that are meant to improve general drumming skills such as coordination, control, accuracy and speed on the kit and not stuff that you can necessarily use in music.

I practice beats, fills and whatnot separately.

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Old 10-27-2012, 03:01 PM
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Hi Tetragrammaton

my friend wants to cover your rendition of Laurence Cottle's "Quite Firm" for one of his end-of-school music performance exams. Would it be at all possible for you to send either a notated arrangement of the band backing track you use or the backing track itself for him to play along to with a click?

Sorry but neither are available.

Hi Phlintlock

If you weren't drumming what instrument would you choose to play?

anything if I could do it well. Trumpet, Piano, Sax, Guitar

Hi euphoric_anomaly

How often do you use traditional grip? I've seen you switch on and off on some video's, but only for a short period of time (1 bar for example). I've never gotten into traditional grip, it feels unnatural and uncomfortable to hold the stick.


I like to use it when I'm playing swing sometimes as it's nice and delicate for ghost notes and buzzes - but I can't get a huge back beat sound from it.

Last question: Is Nil Recurring (the song) in 6/8? I absolutely love that breakdown after the grinding heavy chorus, how you and Colin just slip into a darker tone, the hi-hat notes are especially pronounced even at a low volume, just amazing.

You could think of it as 6/8 or 3/4. I think it goes into 9/8 later on - I can't really remember.

Hi Drumfy

I just saw you perform Sound of Muzak on Youtube, and it blew me away. On the album version, what is the splash cymbal you hit at the very first stroke?


it's an A Zildjian 6" splash.

Hi Netz Ausg

Gavin - Do you ever crash your ride or do you rely on your crash cymbals for this? The angle of your ride suggests not, but just wondered anyhow.


I don't really crash the ride that much.

Hi Nergretty

Maybe you can help cause I can't get my brain around this one. I'm playing 16 even notes on top of 5 8th notes. I can't figure out what note value the 16 notes have or at least my sequencer can't find a grid where these notes will fit evenly. Any ideas? Basically I'm playing 4 even notes over 5 32nd notes I guess so that suggests a 4 over 5 polyrhythm? But what would the note value be and how would I write it?

that is a bit of a brain ache. An easy way to think of this would be to write five bars of 4/4 16th notes and a bass drum on beat one of every bar. Then you would pick out every 5th 16th note. That (against the bass drum) would give you the desired 16 even notes over 5. You could program your sequencer this way and then just multiple the tempo up by a factor of 8. I don't think there's many sequencers that will allow you to write 16:5

Hi Kalma

great work on the new album "Routes" by Ed! :)
You did a great take on 'Goofy' - liked it more than the one I did, haha :)


thanks.

I've got a question about recording whole albums..
When I record my drums and compare the songs later, the drums always sound pretty different. When I listen to the new Routes album it seems like the sound was pretty much the same basically. (Actually on all albums I hear..)
So, how do you record an album? Do you have one logic-project you record all songs in? Or do you create a template with "basic-settings" that you like and just do slightly changes?


I start each recording with my basic Logic template that already has a lot of settings in it that I've built up over the past years. But it's really not that much in terms of slight bits of EQ, compression, reverb etc. Then I tweak it to suit the music that I'm playing. Funnily enough Ed's album was recorded over a period of about 18 months - and I'm conscious to try to make it sound the same if I can.

Hi BabyBob

Had a great time with at the Clinic by Gavin Harrison...some pics...


great - glad you enjoyed it.

Why were your Overhead Mics in that position? (Both on the Right side)
Also does the 8" tom look different from the other toms?


I have no idea. That's how the sound guy wanted to do it.

Hi Swiss Matthias

so when you're travelling the world, do your bells travel with you, or do Zildjian have
several replicas for you all over the world?


I take the bells with me. Zildjian have only made a couple of sets as far as I know.

Hi sina

Im 32 years old and practicing drum by 3 to 4 hours a day. But not just as a hobby but thinking as future career. Is it doable to become a great drummer at my age And practice practice practice could help me to reach to that point then I would be able to join cool bands or Im totally wrong about being a drummer ?!
By the way here is the list of books I arranged to practice for next three years: HAAHA Am I crazy?!


yes you are crazy if you think you can get through these books in 3 years :-). You'd have better results if you just spend the time on 2 or 3 of these books - but REALLY study them in detail. Quality of study is more important than quantity. Plus you need to invent your own exercises and develop your own ideas.

Hi JakkP

I was wondering the next time you're doing a clinic in Dublin, if you could stop by our college, Bimm. Graham Hopkins is one of the lecturers and we try get in as many musicians as we can to show the students some things. It would be great if you could!


I have no plans to make another drum clinic in Dublin at the moment.

Hi Drizzle

Just in case you ran out of money or a gig or both, in a recent interview Richard Marx answered the question "What would be the lineup for your dream gig? he answered :
My dream band, off the top of my head, would be Gavin Harrison on drums; Michael Landau on guitar; Marcus Miller on bass and Chuck Leavell on keys. But Id have no business being in that band. What would your dream lineup be? Or would every stage be too small to fit everyone in?


That's very nice of him to mention me amongst those other extremely good musicians. I'd be honoured to play in a band like that.

Hi szokematyi

Thanks, but I wouldn't want to have the beater that close. The pedal would be useless that way. What I meant was: having the beater at the usual distance from the head, but having the footboard as high as possible. I've noticed, that this way I could put more power into the strike with less amount of movement from the ankle. Meaning: less amount than I'd have to, if my footboard were low(er). Sorry if I can't really explain it in english.

and what I meant was - you can adjust the foot board angle INDEPENDENT to the beater angle. So you can have the foot board at any angle and keep the beater angle the same.

Oh, and one last thing! I've tried to browse through all the pages here, but so far no luck! Has the notation for Plasson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlixwQsc0wY) ever been posted? Or do you have it? (Unlikely I know, but I have to ask!) :)

not as far as I know.

Hi EvilDrummer

BTW Gavin: What do you think is the most effective way to practice? Doing maybe one or two exercises per day for long periods of time like an hour each and practice those for like 2-3 weeks and the move on to something else. Or... do you think it's more effective to practice many things for maybe 15 minutes each and do that for a longer time say 2 months until moving on?


I think it helps to really grasp an exercise before moving on. Sometimes it might take me a week to 'master' a coordination exercise - other times a few minutes so I couldn't really put a time on it. As long as you do a few hours of good quality study every day - everything should get better. It helped me a lot to record and listen carefully to my playing.

cheers
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Old 10-27-2012, 04:01 PM
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Good afternoon Gavin,

Just thought I'd share a little something with you and everyone reading this thread.

There's a video of you playing Killer Joe at Guitar Center and within this video you play a fill (not sure of the exact time stamp), that has the effect of slowing down and stretching the time as you move through the bar. To cut a long story short it inspired me to devise this little challenge for myself:



As you can see, it consists of: a sextuplet paradiddle-diddle, slurred five-stroke roll, half a paraddidle and three eight note triplets. Because the number of notes within the space of a crochet decrease with each beat of the bar, it creates that "time stretching" effect. There's an intrinsic benefit to the excercise too in that, the sticking in terms of right and left hand switches with every bar. I was wondering if you use any excercises such as this one to practice subdivisions?

Warm regards,

Kev

p.s. I've got a lot of mileage out of the various "ying-yang" type excercises you've shared, so thank you for that.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:04 PM
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Hi Gavin

Thanks for the note. Which one of the books from this list you recommend to start with.
On the other hand what about the age? What do think about starting Drumming at age of 32 as a long life career.

thanks

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Old 10-28-2012, 12:42 AM
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I think it helps to really grasp an exercise before moving on. Sometimes it might take me a week to 'master' a coordination exercise - other times a few minutes so I couldn't really put a time on it. As long as you do a few hours of good quality study every day - everything should get better. It helped me a lot to record and listen carefully to my playing.

cheers
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Cool thanks for the reply.

Hey gavin! I'm running out of beats to practice, can you name your top three favorite beats to play. I mean beats other than your own because I've pretty much heard most of them I think :D
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:59 PM
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Also does the 8" tom look different from the other toms?
Very sharp - I didn't see that at first. Unless I'm greatly mistaken that is a Tama Starclassic or superstar 8" Tom - The tom mounth is very clear in those shots and it is unmistakably a Tama Starcast mouth system. The die-cast hoops make me think it's a Supe or Star, though the fact that the mount is black and not chrome makes me think it's not a current model of either. The Supes all come with Black Nickel chrome hardware and Stars have a chrome plated. The old Black powder-coat was phased in the last few years as far as I know.

I might be wrong on the model, but I'm 99% sure it's a tama drum.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:45 PM
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Hi Gavin

Any experience with Sonor beech kits?

Thanks in advance
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:38 PM
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Hi Gavin!

Thanks, I finally understood! I misunderstood your first reply, sorry! :)

And a question! I don't think you ever had any problems like this, but still... I'm in a situation, where I'm trying to find the best groove (of course, thats a relative term!) for a verse, but whatever I come up with, don't really "says" what I want it to. It's a two measure-long 11/8 part, divided into two 6/8-5/8 part. The guitar plays the same time signatures, and if I only play "with the guitar", it sounds kind of silly for me. But whenever I try to find a different beat/groove, "bend the measures" a bit, I get the feeling that I slip away too far from the guitar's "pulse".
What would be your approach? Let it rest a bit, then try again, or "muscle it out"? I'm starting to ran out of ideas, so I need a new approach.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:02 PM
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I'm not sure that is has been asked already, so i just go ahead.

Gavin, if you're willing to share this, could you tell me or us a bit about
your recording. Beeing specific are you willing to share your frequency settings
where your bass drum or snare drum sounds perfect for you?

If not, could you help me out a little in general with the frequencies, so i can learn from you a bit?

thanks i hope you understand my question!
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:47 AM
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I'm not sure that is has been asked already, so i just go ahead.

Gavin, if you're willing to share this, could you tell me or us a bit about
your recording. Beeing specific are you willing to share your frequency settings
where your bass drum or snare drum sounds perfect for you?

If not, could you help me out a little in general with the frequencies, so i can learn from you a bit?

thanks i hope you understand my question!
Uhm, frequency? You mean where he boosts/cuts the EQ's?
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:51 AM
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Very sharp
Haha Thanks for the compliment I'm known as the observer xD

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I didn't see that at first. Unless I'm greatly mistaken that is a Tama Starclassic or superstar 8" Tom - The tom mounth is very clear in those shots and it is unmistakably a Tama Starcast mouth system. The die-cast hoops make me think it's a Supe or Star, though the fact that the mount is black and not chrome makes me think it's not a current model of either. The Supes all come with Black Nickel chrome hardware and Stars have a chrome plated. The old Black powder-coat was phased in the last few years as far as I know.

I might be wrong on the model, but I'm 99% sure it's a tama drum.
Yea, upon further inspection it is a Tama. The question is Why is it so why not Sonor...oh well what is done is done.
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Hi Gavin,
I have the problem that my bassdrum is not as precise as I wished to be. So I started to do Gary Chesters New Breed exercises but I'm totally bored by the amount of exercises you can do. I'd like to ask you if there are any systems of the book or other exercises in general you would prefer to develop a precise bassdrum technique.

Secondly I have a question regarding bassdrum sounds. I'm playing a lot of Rock and loud music but I only have a 20" bassdrum. Although I have a Remo Powersonic head on it it has not the punch and the power I need. I know that I will never get the sound from a 20" than from a 22" but do you have any ideas/experiences maybe a new head or a special tuning or whatever to get as close as possible?

By the way did you ever heard of the British band Haken? A friend showed me some stuff recently. Could be nice as a PT support I guess.
Thank you Gavin for all the inspiration
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:17 AM
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Hi Gavin,

I ordered the special Edition of 'Octane Twisted' and I'm curios what sound format the DVD will contain? Stereo/5.1 ? Can you tell me, 'cause I found no details on that on the internet.

Thank you in advance.

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Old 11-02-2012, 01:16 AM
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The clinic in Malaysia was great Gavin! Hope to see you playing in Malaysia some time soon! Amazing amazing drummer you are!
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:23 AM
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Hi K.Howden

As you can see, it consists of: a sextuplet paradiddle-diddle, slurred five-stroke roll, half a paraddidle and three eight note triplets. Because the number of notes within the space of a crochet decrease with each beat of the bar, it creates that "time stretching" effect. There's an intrinsic benefit to the excercise too in that, the sticking in terms of right and left hand switches with every bar. I was wondering if you use any excercises such as this one to practice subdivisions?


nice exercise. I've tried various exercises that 'step' through the subdivisions. In fact I tried to do a 'changing subdivision fill' about 1:44 into this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z6fnPj2fRk

Hi sina

Thanks for the note. Which one of the books from this list you recommend to start with.
On the other hand what about the age? What do think about starting Drumming at age of 32 as a long life career.


it's never too late to start. There's so many good books in your list I wouldn't know which one would suit you (or interest you) the most. Personally, I got a lot out of the 'systems' that you can apply to the Ted Reed book Syncopation. I still practise it now....and I started with it 32 years ago.

Hi EvilDrummer

Hey gavin! I'm running out of beats to practice, can you name your top three favorite beats to play. I mean beats other than your own because I've pretty much heard most of them I think :D

I don't really think in terms of 'beats'. You've heard all my beats? Can you play them?

Hi Gus

Any experience with Sonor beech kits?

yes I recently played a Sonor Beech Infinite and I thought it sounded great.
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Hi szokematyi

I'm in a situation, where I'm trying to find the best groove (of course, thats a relative term!) for a verse, but whatever I come up with, don't really "says" what I want it to. It's a two measure-long 11/8 part, divided into two 6/8-5/8 part. The guitar plays the same time signatures, and if I only play "with the guitar", it sounds kind of silly for me. But whenever I try to find a different beat/groove, "bend the measures" a bit, I get the feeling that I slip away too far from the guitar's "pulse".
What would be your approach? Let it rest a bit, then try again, or "muscle it out"? I'm starting to ran out of ideas, so I need a new approach.


Just keep trying...and if nothing comes easily - leave it for a few days and come back to it fresh. Don't be afraid of playing the most obvious thing either. Sometimes that's the best thing for the song.

Hi crystalfunky

could you tell me or us a bit about your recording. Beeing specific are you willing to share your frequency settings where your bass drum or snare drum sounds perfect for you? If not, could you help me out a little in general with the frequencies, so i can learn from you a bit?

Do you mean EQ? I try to use EQ as little as possible. If I need more attack from say the bass drum - I try to make the bass drum have more attack by changing the bass drum beater or the batter head or move the mic to a different position or try another mic. If I boost a certain frequency with EQ it will affect the other drums and cymbals that can be heard in the bass drum mic in a way that I probably don't want. So if I add a lot of eq to all the drums the whole thing starts to sound odd to me and unnatural. If I think something does need a boost - I just get a software EQ and play around with it until I can get it to sit right in the mix. It's important to hear the drums with the music as you're EQ'ing. Don't just isolate one drum and boost or cut frequencies whilst listening to it in solo.

Hi Nils

I have the problem that my bassdrum is not as precise as I wished to be. So I started to do Gary Chesters New Breed exercises but I'm totally bored by the amount of exercises you can do. I'd like to ask you if there are any systems of the book or other exercises in general you would prefer to develop a precise bassdrum technique.

the first exercise of that book is very good. Play 16ths with both hands exactly together on two hi hats (you can also do this on one hi hat) and make sure they don't flam. You'd be amazed how many people can't actually do that. Then play the 'melodies' on the bass drum. It's not a question of how quick you can get through the exercises - so repeat each bar until you think you have it perfect - then move on to the next bar. The exercise really is to 'listen' to see if you can have a great accurate feeling of sync between your hands and feet with NO FLAMS.

Secondly I have a question regarding bassdrum sounds. I'm playing a lot of Rock and loud music but I only have a 20" bassdrum. Although I have a Remo Powersonic head on it it has not the punch and the power I need. I know that I will never get the sound from a 20" than from a 22" but do you have any ideas/experiences maybe a new head or a special tuning or whatever to get as close as possible?

I almost always use a 22" bass drum. I have a 20" but only use it in 'jazz' situations so I don't know of a head that will give you that 'bigger' sound.

Hi Christian Beck

I ordered the special Edition of 'Octane Twisted' and I'm curios what sound format the DVD will contain? Stereo/5.1 ? Can you tell me, 'cause I found no details on that on the internet.

It's just stereo - and it's just a 57 minute bonus DVD disc to the double live album.

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Old 11-05-2012, 12:24 PM
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It's just stereo - and it's just a 57 minute bonus DVD disc to the double live album.
Don't say 'just'. It's more than a fair deal for this price!

I was at the concert in Leipzig during the 'The Incident'-Tour and although some guys broke into our car while we were watching the show, it was still worth it :)

Two things I will never forget about this night:

1. PT's incredible performance on that evening
2. Driving home (about 50 miles) with no rear door window in the middle of the night in late october.

So, there were actually TWO incidents on that night for us :)

Cheers

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:46 PM
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I don't really think in terms of 'beats'. You've heard all my beats? Can you play them?
Well I've heard everything you have on youtube and most porcupine tree stuff.

Ehm... good point haha, no I can't play them, I'll start practicing right away.

I know sound of muzak, the verse beat took me a year to "master" because I didn't have the chops to play it but I can say with confidence that I can play the crap out of that beat now.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:15 PM
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Hi Gavin

I like to learn the groove from "Bonnie the Cat" l like it very much !
i saw you in Basel last year....
i found notes from Mr.Terry Branam - ( jear 2009.)
Is this groove sheet with 8 bars the "original" groove from you,
or have you another sheet yet?

best regards
Mike
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:25 AM
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Hi Gavin,

Thanks for the note. I do my practice with The Realistic Rock Drum Method and The Encyclopedia of Double Bass Drumming [Bobby Rondinelli, Michael Lauren.
Actually I have YAMAHA E-Drum at home and with Acoustic Drum set at YAMAHA store rented a room twice in a week.Hope it works!

Can you discuss what do you like about Donald Fagen recent record?

salute!
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:54 AM
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Hey Gavin, you wrote:

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I almost always use a 22" bass drum. I have a 20" but only use it in 'jazz' situations so I don't know of a head that will give you that 'bigger' sound.
On your Sanity and Gravity cd, on tracks like "Sonata in H" and "Big News For a Small Day", was it an unpadded 20" bass drum?

Nice music, anyway!
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:19 PM
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Hi Gavin,

What's your idea about a clinic in Tehran,Iran? Oh.. That's a far dream!!
You are so popular here...

Best wishes
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:33 PM
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Hi Gavin

i have a question:
Have got porcupine tree songs without druming ?
I like to play along with your drum sheets :)

Playalong : The Sound of Muzak
: Bonnie the cat

Nice Day !

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Old 11-13-2012, 10:53 PM
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or have you another sheet yet?
Ask Kalma here on the forum, he did a very accurate transcription of it (I did the layout for the transcription but I cannot find the PDF nor the Finale file on my harddrive anymore)

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Hi Gavin

i have a question:
Have got porcupine tree songs without druming ?
I like to play along with your drum sheets :)

Playalong : The Sound of Muzak
: Bonnie the cat

Nice Day !

regards
Mike
This is asked a lot, the answer is "no". These are not available and will not be available.

There ARE however play alongs available from his first two solo records. You get them when you buy the transcription books for these albums.
There is also a version of 19 days available (but can't remember where).
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:56 PM
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Hi Gavin,

I read on wikipedia that you use a Mackie 32-8-2 with the Apogee Rosetta 800 cards - is that right?

I'll get a mackie 32/8 console soon and I'm looking for good converters.
I noticed that the rosettas are discontinued but also wondered how you connect them to the mackie? As far as I can see they only have those multipin-connectors. The manual of the mackie 32/8 sais, that these connectors are ONLY for connecting a 24E Expander console..?

Can you clear me up?

Thanks a lot! :)
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:01 PM
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Ask Kalma here on the forum, he did a very accurate transcription of it (I did the layout for the transcription but I cannot find the PDF nor the Finale file on my harddrive anymore)


This is asked a lot, the answer is "no". These are not available and will not be available.

There ARE however play alongs available from his first two solo records. You get them when you buy the transcription books for these albums.
There is also a version of 19 days available (but can't remember where).
There actually is a playalong available for Sound of Muzak, I have it myself.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:15 PM
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Hi Gavin,

I thoroughly enjoy your style! Your approach to drumming makes it a joy to listen to!

I'm interested in your working relationship with 05Ric and how you and he have made recording possible given the long distance geographically.

What tips do you have for someone who is also trying to overcome that gap with a fellow artist? How can I provide the drum takes necessary given the very limited amount of time we are able to spend together? Basically, have you and 05Ric found a method that really works best?

Thanks a lot!

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Old 11-17-2012, 11:59 AM
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There actually is a playalong available for Sound of Muzak, I have it myself.
But it's not an official version - it's a cover with bad guitar-sounds and no vocals. (if that's the verison you mean)
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:22 PM
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Hi soultrain73

I like to learn the groove from "Bonnie the Cat" l like it very much !
i found notes from Mr.Terry Branam - ( jear 2009.) Is this groove sheet with 8 bars the "original" groove from you, or have you another sheet yet?


If Terry has written it you can be sure it's very accurate - so work from that one. There's some explanation of it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUA_n04C1bs

Hi sina

Can you discuss what do you like about Donald Fagen recent record?

I've only listened to it a couple of times - but so far I've really enjoyed it. I've always liked his jazzy sense of harmony. The grooves are very simple but just right for the songs.

Hi Canyonero

On your Sanity and Gravity cd, on tracks like "Sonata in H" and "Big News For a Small Day", was it an unpadded 20" bass drum?

Actually it's a 16" floor tom converted into a bass drum (no padding).

Hi AriA Ev

What's your idea about a clinic in Tehran,Iran? Oh.. That's a far dream!!
You are so popular here...


Thanks - Sounds good to me.

Hi soultrain73

i have a question: Have got porcupine tree songs without druming ?

Yes. Can I give them to you? No sorry.

Hi Kalma

I read on wikipedia that you use a Mackie 32-8-2 with the Apogee Rosetta 800 cards - is that right? I'll get a mackie 32/8 console soon and I'm looking for good converters.
I noticed that the rosettas are discontinued but also wondered how you connect them to the mackie? As far as I can see they only have those multipin-connectors. The manual of the mackie 32/8 sais, that these connectors are ONLY for connecting a 24E Expander console..?


They're not 'cards'. They are 1U rack mount hardware pieces. They connect to the Mackie desk via TRS jack to D SUB multi core. Each Apogee can handle 8 inputs and 8 outputs. The Mackie desk has 'direct outs' on each channel as TRS Jack. So I take (a maximum of 16 direct channel outs) and send them via the multi cores over to the Apogee convertors. The Apogees come with ADAT lightpipe digital outputs - so in banks of 8 - they get feed into a MOTU 828 MK3 and then they pass the digital signal onto to the computer via firewire from the MOTU. If you want record at 96k then you need two MOTU boxes daisy-chained together. I really the sound of the whole system. If you're curious about 'mic-pres' you should check out this excellent test: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct1...eampsmedia.htm

Hi A. Chipman

I'm interested in your working relationship with 05Ric and how you and he have made recording possible given the long distance geographically. What tips do you have for someone who is also trying to overcome that gap with a fellow artist? How can I provide the drum takes necessary given the very limited amount of time we are able to spend together? Basically, have you and 05Ric found a method that really works best?

The way Ric and I work is quite easy and simple (just exchanging files over the internet) - but we're writing and recording for ourselves. If you're doing drum sessions for someone else - and they can't be there at the time of the session - then they need to be REALLY clear about what they want from you - the kind of drum sound they are looking for and how much creative input they want from you. Try and get as much info from them as possible. Some folks just want the drums played like the demo - other people are more "just play what you want". That obviously comes with a certain amount of trust in you. Maybe they've heard you play on something else - and they are very familiar with your drumming and are happy to 'leave you to it'. It's slightly different every time. I start off doing what I think is best for the tune...and usually they're happy with that.

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Old 11-17-2012, 06:28 PM
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they get feed into a MOTU 828 MK3 and then they pass the digital signal onto to the computer via firewire from the MOTU.


I really the sound of the whole system. If you're curious about 'mic-pres' you should check out this excellent test: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct1...eampsmedia.htm
Interesting. I always assumed you used the available firewire cards for the Apogees.
How are you clocking the units? Apogees slaving to the Motu clock or one of the apogees as master and the others as slaves?

And got my deluxe edition of Octane Twisted. Nice to see that you are more or less the man behind this project (you are mentioned in the credits a lot more then Wilson). Very nice playing! Brings back good memories :)

Also, nice shootout. Need to check that one out soon.
@Kalma: every preamp has its own characteristics. Its difficult to describe the differences between them but there definitely is a difference between an API, SSL, Neve, Focusrite, Mackie, Presonus, Audient, Daking etc. See these as different brands of vanilla ice-cream. They all hint to vanilla, but some are sweeter, other have more vanilla taste, others are more watery etc. It comes down to taste with preamps.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:55 AM
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Hi Gavin,

After listening to 'Silent Wars' from the upcoming 'LoFi Resistance' album I directly ordered the cd from burning shed.

Cool song, cool vocals, great sound and very nice drumming of yours!

Can't wait to hear the whole album!
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Hi, Gavin
What height of beaters on your pedals? And what distance between beaters and bass drum head?

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Old 11-19-2012, 11:13 PM
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Hey Gavin

I've recently sent my Uni applications away to do music and will soon have auditions to decide whether i get in or not. I would really love to play "The Sound Of Muzak" at these auditions as it would give me an amazing chance to show off technical ability but also allow me to improvise. Is there anyway possible for me to get my hands on a drum-less backing for the song? I would be more than willing to pay for this. Please reply even if the answer is no.

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Old 11-20-2012, 08:39 PM
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Hey Gavin

I've recently sent my Uni applications away to do music and will soon have auditions to decide whether i get in or not. I would really love to play "The Sound Of Muzak" at these auditions as it would give me an amazing chance to show off technical ability but also allow me to improvise. Is there anyway possible for me to get my hands on a drum-less backing for the song? I would be more than willing to pay for this. Please reply even if the answer is no.

Cheers

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The answer will be no. On this page of this thread he at least said no to people for about 10 times. :)

There is a cover-backing track of the song though.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpPoP...eature=g-all-u

Guys! Something seriously off with this vid. No black T-shirt! :)

Otherwise smooth drumming as expected, but honestly... I hated the sound of the Gen16s. Useful in practice or at home if you can only rehearse at a low volume, but... I don't know. Maybe I'm just too old school. :(
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:09 AM
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But it's not an official version - it's a cover with bad guitar-sounds and no vocals. (if that's the verison you mean)
I wouldn't be expecting to get the actual track with the drums taken out. Usually playalongs don't have vocals anyway. I don't think that playalong (even if it is a cover) sounds too bad at all.

Rhythm magazine do drumless tracks every month and the production and music is really good, the Sound of Muzak playalong isn't quite at that level but I still find it more than decent.
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