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Old 08-16-2016, 12:23 PM
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Hi folks,

I'm building a drum studio in my garden, and the first part of my video series documenting this is available to watch now. I'll add more as they become available, as this is an ongoing project.

Hope you enjoy it:

EDIT: 22/08/16 - Part 2 now available

EDIT 2: 07/09/2016 - Part 3 now available

EDIT 3: 01/11/2016 - Part 4 now available

EDIT 4: 19/12/2016 - Part 5 now available

EDIT 4: 20/02/2017 - Part 6 now available


Construction Video Diaries: (still in progress)
Part 1 - The Foundations
https://youtu.be/4xj8cAxMYik

Part 2 - The Walls
https://youtu.be/KI_TIKILQzg

Part 3 - The Roof
https://youtu.be/3PFe4v_SFXU

Part 4 - Soundproofing
https://youtu.be/OVs3dxrHkfo

Part 5 - Doors, Windows, and Ventilation
https://youtu.be/FINLNA-zCVI

Part 5 - Glazing, Plasterboard, and Green Glue
https://youtu.be/lLrTTq1wi-w


















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Old 08-16-2016, 12:51 PM
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Brilliant.
Looking forward to seeing how it comes together.

I am have a garden drum room planned myself, hopefully early next year.
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Old 08-16-2016, 01:23 PM
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Johnathan excellent work so far! What are the dimensions of the actually drum room once it will be finished? Also if you don't mind can you estimate how much this will cost you? I only ask because this is something I am interested in doing in the future!
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Old 08-16-2016, 02:50 PM
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Thanks chaps.

Dimensions are roughly 3.5 x 5 meters, 2.5 meters to the eaves, and 3 meters to the tip of the roof.

I don't have exact costings, because we've been building it over a spread out period of time, and just buy things as and when we need them. As a rule of thumb though, you can assume around 1000 per stage. So the foundations, then the stud walls, then the insulation, windows and doors etc., each stage would be roughly 1000.

We've saved a ton of money in labour costs as we've done it all ourselves, so just materials so far.

Here's a sneak peak:

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Old 08-16-2016, 03:39 PM
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Not a problem!

That is a solid size for a drum room!

Price seems to not be that expensive considering the alternative costs of paying someone else to do the work!

I would be doing the work myself! I love DIY and my father in law is a general contractor with 40+ years of experience in Residential and Commercial construction!

Honestly everything looks like it is going great! Cant wait for more updates!

Excellent work Jonathan!
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:32 PM
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I enjoyed that. The clearly explained process was educational.
l look forward to seeing how it all finally comes together for you.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:41 PM
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Well done, I enjoyed part 1. Looking forward to the rest of the series and seeing the finished product.
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That is obviously planned out very well and the video is tremendous. I had no idea that concrete had to set for 28 days before building. I'm sure I have seen 2 story houses put on foundations in less time. Is there a weather or geographical reason as to why? I also look forward to the rest of the series.
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To build a structure such as that on my property in New Jersey would require a mind boggling number of permits and inspections. The headaches and potential heart attack while going through the process would be enough to never consider it.
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I had this built, its 14x16. It will be my future studio, my son lives in it right now. Your video documentary is great. Price tag was right at $3400 on this. It is big enough for 2 kits or a full band.
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Cool.

What are you (and the others with drum rooms like this) using for climate control? (Heat, cooling, humidity etc?)
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Cool.

What are you (and the others with drum rooms like this) using for climate control? (Heat, cooling, humidity etc?)
I got a window air conditioner in now. Last winter I ran a quartz infrared heater that worked ok till it got down to around 15 degree F, then I had to get out the old kerosene. But the electric heater keeps it warm enough as to not do any harm to gear.. I put insulation in mine to.
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To build a structure such as that on my property in New Jersey would require a mind boggling number of permits and inspections. The headaches and potential heart attack while going through the process would be enough to never consider it.
I live in NJ specifically South Jersey and I can concur with this statement! Not sure how that works on the other side of the pond.

My next house will have a lot of land and I think this option is cheaper than trying to doing something in a basement or garage that is attached to the house.
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I live in NJ specifically South Jersey and I can concur with this statement! Not sure how that works on the other side of the pond.

My next house will have a lot of land and I think this option is cheaper than trying to doing something in a basement or garage that is attached to the house.
I've lived in NJ (Green Village, near Chatham) but now live in the UK.

Essentially here you can do quite a bit under 'permitted development'.
It has to be under a certain height if it is within 2m of the property boundary, and you need to get the electrics done by someone competent.
It also cannot be sleeping quarters nor take up 50% of the available yard space.
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I've updated page 1 with photos and part 2 of the video diary.
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Old 08-22-2016, 07:28 PM
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Thanks for posting this. I'm slowly getting a room built in my garage, so it's interesting for me to see how you're building yours out. We are basically both using the same method.
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Ghostnote, that looks really good! The only difference is that yours is within a garage, whereas mine is freestanding.

It will be good to compare ideas and results once we're both finished.
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:32 PM
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I've lived in NJ (Green Village, near Chatham) but now live in the UK.

Essentially here you can do quite a bit under 'permitted development'.
It has to be under a certain height if it is within 2m of the property boundary, and you need to get the electrics done by someone competent.
It also cannot be sleeping quarters nor take up 50% of the available yard space.
This, exactly. We were very careful to ensure that we fell within this permitted development. We even had to move the footings hole a foot because it was breaching the line of forward elevation.
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Ghostnote, that looks really good! The only difference is that yours is within a garage, whereas mine is freestanding.

It will be good to compare ideas and results once we're both finished.
Yes, I had an existing ceiling and two existing exterior walls to work with. I'm on the verge of framing up my interior walls and ceiling. It's an evenings and weekends kinda thing though, so I have to fit it in here and there in my spare time after the domestic chores are taken care of, so it's a slow process.

I am going with 3 layers of 1/2" drywall for each leaf. I wanted to use 2 layers of 5/8", but around here 5/8" is twice the price per sheet as 1/2", so I opted for a little extra work over the increase in material costs. If you look at the pic you can see where I goofed on the framing for the bulkhead around the garage door opener. I never left space for my insulation on the bottom, nor did I factor in screwing surfaces for the drywall in the corners, so I wasted a bit of 2x4 bulking that up to fix my mistake. No big deal though. The bulkhead for the inner walls/ceiling should be a bit of a challenge since It will be free-standing.

My inside dimensions when all is said and done will be 15'12'8.5'.

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Old 09-07-2016, 05:38 PM
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Hi all. I've updated the first post with another photo and part 3 of the video diary.

Hope you enjoy.

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Hi all. I've updated the first post with another photo and part 3 of the video diary.

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What DB reduction are you expecting from inside to outside? I only ask as timber frame does not have a lot of mass and we are always told that mass is crucial to reducing the transfer of sound. If you are not close to any other houses I suppose its not an issue.
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J,

Very much enjoying these videos. Love the uncredited cameo by the black cat!
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To say that I am impressed would be an understatement. I'm not sure what I liked best though, the carpentry skills, the narrating , or the video editing. I hope you included enough hashtags to make sure this makes it to many different topics in the Youtube sort. Brilliant work Jonathon.
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Thanks for the kind words guys. I've been slowly getting better at the video side as I've done more of it for my channel. I find I really enjoy it; just another creative hobby I suppose.

I'm not sure about the tags though, never really sure what to put in.
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What DB reduction are you expecting from inside to outside? I only ask as timber frame does not have a lot of mass and we are always told that mass is crucial to reducing the transfer of sound. If you are not close to any other houses I suppose its not an issue.
We are expecting an STC rating of 55+. The majority of mass comes from the boards and the insulation. Wood is dense enough to be the preferred construction material in professional studios, and easily compares in performance with masonry.
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Once this is completed to your satisfaction, you may want to consider making the entire plan available for purchase?
That could become another source of income for your many talents.
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We are expecting an STC rating of 55+. The majority of mass comes from the boards and the insulation. Wood is dense enough to be the preferred construction material in professional studios, and easily compares in performance with masonry.
Just in case you're not already planning on it- I would very highly recommend you add layers of drywall for your mass, on the outside of the outer leaf and the inside of the inner leaf.
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also not using trusses with an open interior can result in an outward force being exerted on the exterior walls where the rafters are attached. but being a small span it may not be an issue for you as it was for the structure i inherited.
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also not using trusses with an open interior can result in an outward force being exerted on the exterior walls where the rafters are attached. but being a small span it may not be an issue for you as it was for the structure i inherited.
Thanks, and agreed. We have since added trusses and supporting crossbeams across the inner ceiling, which future videos and photos will show.
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Looking good, MJ! I envy you!
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Thanks so much for this. I will be doing something similar myself shortly and this really gives such an easy and simple explanation of how to do it.

Brilliant stuff cheers
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Thanks guys - I'm glad this is giving some of you some ideas. I must admit, without my dad (an electrical engineer), I'd have absolutely not chance of doing this. I've passed on the kind comments to him.

Unfortunately, another winter has rolled around here in the UK, and the work on the external building has stalled. We've done a lot inside - the inner walls are all done, the ceiling is in etc., but we are trying to get a dry day to put on the roof shingles and the guttering outside.

Part 4 of the video diary is nearly ready - just waiting to get the guttering on!
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Mighty I have been keeping up with this since you first posted.

Just wanted to note the craftsmanship and attention to detail is evident!!
Also your father has one steady hand!! Cant wait for the 4th installment! Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for posting this. I'm slowly getting a room built in my garage, so it's interesting for me to see how you're building yours out. We are basically both using the same method.
Looking good, GN! Will be keeping a close-eye on both your and MJ's progress.
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Hi folks. I've updated the first page with Part 4 of the video diary. This one looks more at the soundproofing methods we are using.

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Mighty I have been keeping up with this since you first posted.

Just wanted to note the craftsmanship and attention to detail is evident!!
Also your father has one steady hand!! Cant wait for the 4th installment! Keep up the good work!
Thanks buddy. Part 4 is now available :)
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Hi folks. I've updated the first page with part 5 of the video diary, and another picture.

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Hi folks,

Nearly there now. I've updated the first post with episode 6.

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More good stuff Jonathan. What a lot of knowledge gained while doing this. and props to your dad for being there. Best always.
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Coming along nicely, MJ! What sort of flooring are you looking at installing?
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