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Old 03-14-2009, 08:50 PM
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Hi gavin,

just one question.

you have one set in earth finish, right?
is it painted in highloss?


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Old 03-14-2009, 10:51 PM
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Hi Steve Gregson

Do you have any sort of conscious process for creativity? I don't just mean your contributions as a working drummer, but musical composition/artistry in general. For example, do you wait for ideas to occur naturally and keep a record of them? Or do you allot time specifically for generating ideas? Perhaps through improvisation?

Sometimes I have to come up with something on the spot (in a session situation) and anything could spark an idea - maybe the song reminds me of something - maybe the melody or bass line makes me think about a rhythmic pattern. I suppose we all have a subconscious editor in our minds - avoiding things that you think are cliche or un-hip - and sometimes just avoiding those things will bring you to your destination. Some days can be a struggle - if I'm totally uninspired by the music I've been asked to play (I'm trying to avoid being in those situations - but it has happened). Other times I just improvise at home and things just accidentally happen - and then I record them into the 'ideas bank'.

Hi DTrocks

Will there be any updates regarding the PT's new album some time soon? I'm thrilled to hear more about it.

I'm starting to record the drums tomorrow - so I might not be on this thread for the next week or so.

By the way.. Have you heard about the drummer Benny Greb? If so, what do you think of his playing? I recently bought his new dvd. Very inspiring stuff!


Yes I know Benny - he's great and I'm looking forward to seeing his new DVD.

Hi Funnyguy1970

Well my question is rather novice.. hehe do you have any tip/trick regarding foot/hand independence??

Firstly try to play things perfectly together - play both hands in 16ths on a practise pad and make sure there's absolutely no flams. There's no quick tip/trick to independence you just have to work at it for years.

Hi ctdrum1

Just wondering how you are liking your new Black Swamp snare? I heard the clips that you sent over and I must say that it sounds great, as does your playing. Will it be strictly a studio drum, or are you thinking about bringing on the road?

I'm really enjoying it. Eric kindly made me a beautiful 5 lever snare drum. It's a work of art. I think it will be something I play in a recording kind of way.

Hi Kalma

you have one set in earth finish, right? is it painted in highloss?


Yes and it's finished in high gloss.

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Old 03-15-2009, 03:23 AM
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Hi Gavin,

I've been practicing with a metronome for a couple years and i had this thought the other day: Is it possible that by practicing with a metronome, you can develop a metronome-dependence? Like maybe you depend on a metronome to be able to keep steady time?

I have no doubt that playing with a metronome makes you better at, well, playing with a metronome. But does just playing with a metronome make you better at keeping steady time when playing without a metronome? Are there any specific excercises for that?

I ask this because since i started playing/practicing with a metronome, i started to notice that when playing without one, my time isn't that steady anymore. I'm thinking that maybe that happens because i may be developing "metronome-dependence", but then again, maybe it's the fact that by playing with a metronome, i've started to develop a better ear for time, and i start to see flaws in my playing that i didn't see before.

I realize that this whole "metronome-dependence" idea may be ridiculous, but i'd love to hear (read) your take on this.

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Old 03-15-2009, 06:11 AM
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Gavin,

I saw some of your interviews on YouTube from PASIC 2008. I must say you are the most humble and modest drummer I've ever seen an interview with. No ego, no "holier than thou" attitude, really a pleasure to see.

One quick question for ya:
When studying a piece of music that you will play, let's say "Discipline" by King Crimson, how would you go about playing the song without feeling the need to copy the groove of Bill Bruford? Do you have access to a "no drum track" recording of the song?

There's plenty of TOOL songs I'd love to put my own beats to, but I can't help but play some of the same notes that the drummer (Danny Carey) does... this question has been bugging me for some time, so I thought I'd ask a real professional.

Thanks for all your inspiration to me and all the other drummers here and out there in the world.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:11 AM
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have you received your Kickport and tried it out yet? I'm interested in your experiences because I ordered one as well (still waiting).


Yes it arrived a week ago. I installed it and couldn't hear any difference from my playing position. I'm going to a very big studio next week - so I will try to see if it makes a difference to the microphones out the front of the kit.

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Gavin,
how were your experiences with the kickport in the studio? Do you still use it? For my bassdrum sound it is a real improvement. In our rehearsal room (not the best accoustic) I receive a deep, fat, wet sound with a better defintion and punch (also behind the kit) even with the lowest possible pitch. I could remove all the damping material (a woolen blanket). Just the batter head EVANS 22" EMAD2 CLEAR is damped from outside with the foam rubber ring. I can recommend the kickport.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:24 PM
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Hi everyone,

For those interested in the new GHO5 'circles' it may be preordered through the link:

http://www.burningshed.com/store/gavinharrison/

I did it, and now i´m happier!!

Best regards.

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Old 03-15-2009, 07:51 PM
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Already have done! Can't wait to get hold of this in a few weeks after hearing that sampler. I'm still listening to Drop!
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Old 03-16-2009, 03:51 AM
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Gavin,
Just wondering how you are liking your new Black Swamp snare? I heard the clips that you sent over and I must say that it sounds great, as does your playing. Will it be strictly a studio drum, or are you thinking about bringing on the road?
Also,how things were going on the new Porcupine Tree recordings. Last I heard, the band was in the studio. Are you still writing and tracking it, or has it moved into the mixdown stage?
Thanks,
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Hi! Really make a "black swamp snare"? Where do i can heard it?
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:26 AM
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Hey Gavin,

I heard that you're drumming on the new OSI album, any insides on what it's going to be like???

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Old 03-17-2009, 05:55 PM
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Hey Gavin,
I was looking at your drumset. On the left side there's a stand with 5 splashes or cup chimes on it. What kind of stand is that? Is it a crotale stand with splashes on it? I'm just wondering because the Paiste 2002 Cup Chime 5-Piece Cymbal set is the closest I've been able to find to the 5 piece stand you have there, but the heights are different.
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:40 PM
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It was a custom job done by a friend of his.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:07 AM
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I was looking at your drumset. On the left side there's a stand with 5 splashes or cup chimes on it. What kind of stand is that? Is it a crotale stand with splashes on it?
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:29 AM
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Hello Gavin,

I just watched a video on youtube where you played Futile from your Rhythmic Horizons DVD, and somebody said in a comment that you completely stopped practicing rudiments. This can't be true right?

This is the comment i'm talking about:
"What I really love about this guy is his coordination. He doesn't even practice rudiments or exercise his arms or legs, it just flows out of his mind straight onto the set. Mind over matter"

As a professional drummer you need to keep practicing your rudiments, right? I know you stopped focussing on technique, but stopping completely? I think that guy is someone who does not know where he's talking about.

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Old 03-18-2009, 12:57 AM
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I was looking at your drumset. On the left side there's a stand with 5 splashes or cup chimes on it. What kind of stand is that? Is it a crotale stand with splashes on it? I'm just wondering because the Paiste 2002 Cup Chime 5-Piece Cymbal set is the closest I've been able to find to the 5 piece stand you have there, but the heights are different.
Thanks,
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Looks to me like it's his own creation. Nice little addition. sounds sweet.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:51 AM
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Hey Gavin,
Just stopping in to say what everyones been saying, congrats on all the albums you have worked on, your material is truely inspiring. Found out about yourself and PT about 6 months ago and I'm hooked!

Two quick equipment questions for you! About two months ago I was fortunate enough to pick up a 12x5 Designer snare on Ebay and as you are the only other person I know who owns one, what head would you recommend? Currently it has a coated Ambassador on it but I'm thinking Controlled sound or Emporer X? I originally was goin to use it as an aux. snare but I have tried a few gigs with it as the primary one and its serving me well!
Lovely wee drum! Second question is a bit more random and you might not remember but it's cool, but what Ride were you using for 'Strip the Soul'? was just listening to it the other night and was digging the bell sound!

Thanks anyway for reading, take care now!

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P.S come to N. Ireland for a jam!
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:25 AM
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Hi moncholo

I've been practicing with a metronome for a couple years and i had this thought the other day: Is it possible that by practicing with a metronome, you can develop a metronome-dependence? Like maybe you depend on a metronome to be able to keep steady time?


Yes I believe you can become dependent on a metronome. I think you need to practice playing time on your own. Really listening is the key. Record yourself play 64 bars of straight time and then listen back to it. Try the "Steve Gadd" exercises I outlined a few posts back.

Hi euphoric_anomaly

When studying a piece of music that you will play, let's say "Discipline" by King Crimson, how would you go about playing the song without feeling the need to copy the groove of Bill Bruford? Do you have access to a "no drum track" recording of the song?

I never played Discipline and I didn't have any access to 'drum less' versions either. On some of the KC songs that I learnt - I did copy Bill's part to begin with - but I tried to develop them more into my style.

Hi loser_user

how were your experiences with the kickport in the studio? Do you still use it?


It's in my bass drum right now - but I must say I can't really hear a difference at the moment. Maybe you need a bass drum that has no internal dampening.

Hi daniele,

Hi! Really make a "black swamp snare"? Where do i can heard it?

the recording samples I made were for Eric Sooy of Black Swamp. http://www.blackswamp.com/

Hi dr.funkenstien

I heard that you're drumming on the new OSI album, any insides on what it's going to be like???

I think it's a really good record - I'm very pleased with it. It's released at the end April.

Hi hidde

I just watched a video on youtube where you played Futile from your Rhythmic Horizons DVD, and somebody said in a comment that you completely stopped practicing rudiments. This can't be true right?

This is the comment i'm talking about:
"What I really love about this guy is his coordination. He doesn't even practice rudiments or exercise his arms or legs, it just flows out of his mind straight onto the set. Mind over matter"


Never take too much notice of comments that people put on YouTube videos. The comment is probably in reference to an interview where I said that I started concentrating more on my ideas than my muscles. I don't practise a lot of rudiments these days - maybe just single and double stroke rolls and paradiddles.

Hi Nige86

Two quick equipment questions for you! About two months ago I was fortunate enough to pick up a 12x5 Designer snare on Ebay and as you are the only other person I know who owns one, what head would you recommend?

Ambassador is good as is the CS head. I would imagine the Emperor X would kill it.

what Ride were you using for 'Strip the Soul'? was just listening to it the other night and was digging the bell sound!

I'm pretty sure it was a Zildjian K 20" Ride.

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Old 03-18-2009, 11:50 PM
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Hi Gavin!

I'm a young drummer and having been playing for a while now, I've grown tired of playing along to my CDs, and was wondering on what advice you give about finding your first gig? Not a band situation, but more a one-off type thing?

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Old 03-18-2009, 11:51 PM
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I'm a young drummer and having been playing for a while now, I've grown tired of playing along to my CDs, and was wondering on what advice you give about finding your first gig? Not a band situation, but more a one-off type thing?

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Old 03-19-2009, 09:47 PM
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Hi Gavin,
I've listened to The Sound of Muzak about 10.000 times and still the drum sound is the most incredible, clear, powerful drum sound I've ever heard, especially the bassdrum and the snare.
That brings me to my question: HOW did you get that awesome sound on the recording?

I just found out that you use the audix i5 snare mic, so now I'm not sure wether to buy this one or the Sennheiser E 905 which I tried out for a while and think it's a really good snare mic. I just can't get the sound as good as it is on In Absentia!!

How did you (or Steven or whoever) mix and master it and what special treatment did you give to the sound of the bassdrum?!? It has everything a bassdrum needs, hearing it is so satisfyingand I just don't know how to let my bassdrum sound that way when recording and mixing it. A hint for a desperate drummer, please?!

To sum it up: 1) Which snare mic do you think would be better? 2) How in the world can I achieve such an incredible bassdrum sound as on In Absentia?!

Thanks in advance
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:44 AM
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How did you (or Steven or whoever) mix and master it and what special treatment did you give to the sound of the bassdrum?!? It has everything a bassdrum needs, hearing it is so satisfyingand I just don't know how to let my bassdrum sound that way when recording and mixing it. A hint for a desperate drummer, please?!
Sounds like an AKG D112 inside the kick and perhaps a large diaphragm condenser outside (U47?), about a foot back. Fairly easy to achieve. Boost a little 3k-5k on the D112, cut out a lot of mids, leave the lows. Take the outside mic and rolloff a lot of the highs. Compress to taste. That should get you right in the ballpark.

Make sure your kick is pretty dead, a la Mr. Harrison! In Absentia is one of my favorite drum sounds.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:02 PM
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If I may say so Pork chop, I'd say that's just a little OTT!!
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Old 03-21-2009, 08:42 AM
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Hello, Gavin.
First of all, I would like to say that you're a great inspiration. I started to play drums about 3 months ago and drummers like you make me want to practice more and more =D.

Well, My question is this: In an interview you said that you didn't know much about King Crimson and stuff, but me and a friend have this great doubt "What's the meaning of 'Book Of Saturday' from the great album 'Lark's Tounges In Aspic'?'

If you could answer that, I would really apreciate xD
Oh, by the way, are you planning to come to Chile with Porcupine Tree in the tour for your next album? We are a lot of pepole waiting for you to come.

Well, my best wishes and keep your great Drumming.
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:44 PM
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Hi Gavin,

Great performance on MD Festival 2008 DVD, which has just come out in UK.

The kit sounds fantastic.

I wanted to ask: with so many stellar drummers on the bill, is there any competitiveness between the musicians, and which of the other performances did you particularly enjoy?


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Old 03-21-2009, 02:25 PM
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Vladimer Sichinava kindly made this one

http://gavinharrison.netsons.org/ind...itle=Main_Page

but I guess it's a pretty time consuming updating it.


Hello Gavin, yes you need some time consuming, like everything in this world.
But it's really simple to update, people could register and put questions and answers in the
right place. Everyone is welcome :)


P.S You too Gav :)
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:07 PM
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Hi Fragile

I'm a young drummer and having been playing for a while now, I've grown tired of playing along to my CDs, and was wondering on what advice you give about finding your first gig? Not a band situation, but more a one-off type thing?

Your best bet is to find some local musicians and try to get a play with them. I don't really understand what you mean by a 'one-off type of thing'? What are you expecting?

Hi Vylor

I've listened to The Sound of Muzak about 10.000 times and still the drum sound is the most incredible, clear, powerful drum sound I've ever heard, especially the bassdrum and the snare. That brings me to my question: HOW did you get that awesome sound on the recording?

There are so many things that would make a difference - it would hard to describe. There's the drums themselves, the way that I hit them, the skins, the tuning, the dampening, the microphones, the room, the mic amps, the eq, the very experienced engineer, eq/compression, the mixing, the mastering and so it goes on.

I just found out that you use the audix i5 snare mic, so now I'm not sure wether to buy this one or the Sennheiser E 905 which I tried out for a while and think it's a really good snare mic.

The Audix i5 is VERY close to a Shure SM57 and that's really the industry standard for snare drum. I use the Audix because I thought it could take a few more stray hits than the Shure.

How did you (or Steven or whoever) mix and master it and what special treatment did you give to the sound of the bassdrum?!? It has everything a bassdrum needs, hearing it is so satisfying and I just don't know how to let my bassdrum sound that way when recording and mixing it. A hint for a desperate drummer, please?!


see the answer above about variables - but Nishmaster had some good suggestions. I think I remember using my Beyer M88 on that session in combination with the U47.

Hi Tobal90

Well, My question is this: In an interview you said that you didn't know much about King Crimson and stuff, but me and a friend have this great doubt "What's the meaning of 'Book Of Saturday' from the great album 'Lark's Tounges In Aspic'?'


I don't even know that song. As I said - I don't know much about King Crimson.

Oh, by the way, are you planning to come to Chile with Porcupine Tree in the tour for your next album?


We have no plans to come at the moment.

Hi supermac

Great performance on MD Festival 2008 DVD, which has just come out in UK.
The kit sounds fantastic.


Thanks

I wanted to ask: with so many stellar drummers on the bill, is there any competitiveness between the musicians, and which of the other performances did you particularly enjoy?


No - everyone was very supportive of each other - I didn't feel any competitiveness. Loved Simon Phillips set - and so many of the others too. The standard was very high indeed.

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Old 03-22-2009, 05:18 PM
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Hi Fragile

I'm a young drummer and having been playing for a while now, I've grown tired of playing along to my CDs, and was wondering on what advice you give about finding your first gig? Not a band situation, but more a one-off type thing?

Your best bet is to find some local musicians and try to get a play with them. I don't really understand what you mean by a 'one-off type of thing'? What are you expecting?


I was thinking something that isn't full commitment to a particular band, but more a session job (but live), I tried playing in a band a couple of times, but I much prefer having the experience of playing many types of music, rather than confining to one genre, at least for now.
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:53 PM
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Hi Fragile

I'm a young drummer and having been playing for a while now, I've grown tired of playing along to my CDs, and was wondering on what advice you give about finding your first gig? Not a band situation, but more a one-off type thing?

Your best bet is to find some local musicians and try to get a play with them. I don't really understand what you mean by a 'one-off type of thing'? What are you expecting?


I was thinking something that isn't full commitment to a particular band, but more a session job (but live), I tried playing in a band a couple of times, but I much prefer having the experience of playing many types of music, rather than confining to one genre, at least for now.
Sorry to butt in, but are 'Jam Nights' a possibility for you?
They're a good way to get a decent variety of styles under your belt without committing to anything. Other than that, maybe get a few friends around maybe.

Alright Gavin.

I've recently bought the Axis A Longboard. I was just wondering how long you had them before you experimented with the settings on it?
It's unlike any pedal I've had before and I'm just wondering if tinkering at this stage is counter productive? Maybe I should just get used to the feel of it in the factory standard settings before messing about with settings.

What's your take on it?

Thanks.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:33 AM
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Hello Gavin

A big fan of your for many years, I wanted to ask a few questions if I may?

With material such as the stunning album you did with 05ric, how much of your playing is improv or is it rehearsed with exact rhythms and fills? For example, if you played it live, how much would be as per the album or would it always vary, or would you naturally vary things anyway?

Is there a chance of any live shows with 05ric?

My next question is, as someone returning to the drums after 20 something years, I have always played by ear, I never had lessons and don't read music. I did ok before I quit, but given your background in theory, do you feel it is possible to be a good drummer without the theory?

Finally, have you ever played or owned any of the Roland V Drums range and if so what are your thoughts on them?

Thank you once again, I consider you the greatest drummer performing.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:43 PM
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Hi Fragile

I was thinking something that isn't full commitment to a particular band, but more a session job (but live), I tried playing in a band a couple of times, but I much prefer having the experience of playing many types of music, rather than confining to one genre, at least for now.

Then maybe as MaidenFanSte suggests - a jam session is the way to go.

Hi MaidenFanSte,

I've recently bought the Axis A Longboard. I was just wondering how long you had them before you experimented with the settings on it?


It's certainly a pedal that has a lot of adjustment possibilities. I messed around with it straight away and tried to match the feel of my previous pedal - and although it didn't feel the same - I quickly got used to the Axis.

Hi Vdrummer09

With material such as the stunning album you did with 05ric, how much of your playing is improv or is it rehearsed with exact rhythms and fills? For example, if you played it live, how much would be as per the album or would it always vary, or would you naturally vary things anyway?

There's a video on YouTube of me playing "Unsettled" so I guess you can see for yourself how much (or little) I changed. Also there's three GH05 songs on the Modern Drummer Weekend 08 DVD. I think I pretty much play the parts of the songs with some variation in the fills.

Is there a chance of any live shows with 05ric?


Not at the moment.

My next question is, as someone returning to the drums after 20 something years, I have always played by ear, I never had lessons and don't read music. I did ok before I quit, but given your background in theory, do you feel it is possible to be a good drummer without the theory?

Yes you can get a long way without any 'theory' (as you call it) - but you could go a lot further and get there faster if you did have more theory. It depends if you want to be the best you can be - or just ok.

Finally, have you ever played or owned any of the Roland V Drums range and if so what are your thoughts on them?

I have played many electronic drums in my time (including Vdrums) and I have to say it's really not my thing. I don't really enjoy it - and therefore try to avoid it. I can see the great advantages to practising with them - if you're in a situation where playing the real drums are just too loud for everyone around.

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Will there be any updates regarding the PT's new album some time soon? I'm thrilled to hear more about it.

I'm starting to record the drums tomorrow - so I might not be on this thread for the next week or so.
Hey Gavin, how's the drum recording going? ;)
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Hey Gavin!
I recently joined a group here in Boston (after moving here in December), and we're getting ready to play some exciting gigs...exciting, especially for me, as i've never played a live show before. As it were, our first performance will be a live studio performance at a radio station....i suppose i've done things a bit backwards since i started drumming anyway, so no matter. My question is this - over your career, as you performed with different groups and your time began to become more precious, how did that affect your personal practice time? Did you find that playing, in general, was good enough? The music i'm playing is based on improvisation and dynamics (a blend of rock, funk, and a hint of jazz), so at this point i feel like ANY time behind the kit is time well spent. However, now that i'm rehearsing these songs or working on new ones with these guys, the time i've previously spent wandering around in my own head has really diminished. Did you ever experience this, and notice a difference in your playing or your progress? It's difficult for me to evaluate myself in the first place, only having played for 2 years, so perhaps you could better judge how one's personal practice time compares to gaining general experience on the kit?

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I've been practicing with a metronome for a couple years and i had this thought the other day: Is it possible that by practicing with a metronome, you can develop a metronome-dependence? Like maybe you depend on a metronome to be able to keep steady time?

I have no doubt that playing with a metronome makes you better at, well, playing with a metronome. But does just playing with a metronome make you better at keeping steady time when playing without a metronome? Are there any specific excercises for that?

I ask this because since i started playing/practicing with a metronome, i started to notice that when playing without one, my time isn't that steady anymore. I'm thinking that maybe that happens because i may be developing "metronome-dependence", but then again, maybe it's the fact that by playing with a metronome, i've started to develop a better ear for time, and i start to see flaws in my playing that i didn't see before.

I realize that this whole "metronome-dependence" idea may be ridiculous, but i'd love to hear (read) your take on this.

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Sorry to interrupt, but I have a practice method that might help you out (and anyone else on this thread). When you're playing along with your met, it's usually set on quarters or eighths. Start setting it on half notes - it probably will still feel pretty normal depending on the tempo. Then move it to whole notes. Keep decreasing the frequency like that until you can play four measures and land right back with the click on beat one (you might need to use a drum program or advanced metronome on the computer if your met can't click once every 4 bars). It's frustrating and quite difficult, but it will really clean up your time.
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They usually are 18+. But depending on your age, you can usually either go in and not drink alcohol, or see if you can get an adult to take you. I'd say it's definitely worth a try.
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Hi Gavin!

I hope you're doing well! I have a few questions for you:

1.- I'm playing in a band and obviously drums are loud enough, so there's no need to put them through the PA-system, BUT they sound dry overall, especially the snare drum. In a recording situation one always puts some sort of hall on it. So the question would be if you (or anybody else reading this thread) have any experience/recommendation regarding drum effects (hall) in a rehearsal situation.
(By the way: I'm the bass player in the band, but I wanted to ask you before I suggest anything to my drummer :P)

2.- I bought your Rhythmic Horizons DVD, it's great :D. I have one question regarding overriding: In this chapter you suggest different subdivisions for overriding with the hi-hat e.g. quarter notes 8ths and every 3 16ths. The relation between quarter notes and 8ths is obvious, but is there any logical relation to overriding with every 3 16ths? Or is it arbitrary and could just as well have been overriding with every 5 16ths for instance?

Take care and thanks!

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Hey Gavin, short question here.
What do you use on your bass drum head hole? I saw a cool chromed ring-thing on the Arriving Somewhere DVD and not sure where to get one of those or what brand it is. Because I recently holed the resonant head of my bass drum and not sure what to put on it.
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2.- I bought your Rhythmic Horizons DVD, it's great :D. I have one question regarding overriding: In this chapter you suggest different subdivisions for overriding with the hi-hat e.g. quarter notes 8ths and every 3 16ths. The relation between quarter notes and 8ths is obvious, but is there any logical relation to overriding with every 3 16ths? Or is it arbitrary and could just as well have been overriding with every 5 16ths for instance?
I'm not Gavin but I have been studying this DVD for years. If I understand what you're asking, I don't really see what could be considered arbitrary about using 3/16ths rather than eights or quarters; it certainly sounds less common in the context of Western popular music, because 85% of pop music is in quarters or eights. But I don't think the fact that we hear that pattern less frequently in music makes it more or less arbitrary than patterns we do hear more frequently.

It was only when I really started to focus on counting out loud that the 3/16ths patterns really started to make sense to me. Most of the patterns on Rhythmic Horizons are too fast to count full 16ths ("1 e and a"), but I count the 3/16ths overrides like triplets "1 and a, 2 and a, 3 and a..." and in that framework the 8th notes would fall on the "1" and "a" of the first group of 3/16ths and the "and" of the second group of 3/16ths, and it just repeats like that over and over. So if you play the 3/16ths on a ride or hi-hat cymbal counting them like triplets and tap your hi-hat foot in the original 8th note pattern, it really starts to make more sense as a regular--if a bit uncommon--rhythmic structure.
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Hi again! I forgot one thing I wanted to ask:

can you explain how playing "laid back" works? Does it actually mean some element of the drum is somewhat late measured by the click (bass-drum and snare maybe?)? In this setting is there something that is strictly on time (hi-hat?)?

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Hello Gavin,

I finally got the latest MD Festival dvd and got to see you on that stage. I was wondering if you (as well as the other drummers) took part at the mixing process of the drum sound because every drummer sounds very similar to what you find on their other recordings, you too.

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Hi miha

Hey Gavin, how's the drum recording going?

It's finished and came out great. I was very happy with the studio and engineer.

Hi xopethx

My question is this - over your career, as you performed with different groups and your time began to become more precious, how did that affect your personal practice time? Did you find that playing, in general, was good enough?

When I'm playing a lot (live or in sessions) I don't really have the time to practise too much. I still have ideas that I want to explore and I write them down at a sound check or between takes on a session - then when I do get more time - I can work on them. I miss having the chance to practise whenever I feel like it - as I can do at home. Usually I start off a tour full of ideas and my technique is up and running at full steam - by the end of the tour I'm struggling to get through the show - physically and mentally.

Hi asmodeus

1.- I'm playing in a band and obviously drums are loud enough, so there's no need to put them through the PA-system, BUT they sound dry overall, especially the snare drum. In a recording situation one always puts some sort of hall on it. So the question would be if you (or anybody else reading this thread) have any experience/recommendation regarding drum effects (hall) in a rehearsal situation.
(By the way: I'm the bass player in the band, but I wanted to ask you before I suggest anything to my drummer :P)


I (and most of the band) play with 'in-ear-monitors' so it's easy for me to put some reverb on the drums. Usually just the snare and toms. This reverb is built in to our Yamaha 02R96 monitor desk. It's not the greatest reverb I've ever heard but it's a big improvement over having none. In your situation - try a mic on the snare drum - send it too a reverb unit (set to 100% wet - so there's none of the dry signal coming through) and then just put the output of the unit into the PA. That way you won't have the actual snare in the PA but you'll hear just the reverb ringing after the drummer hits the snare.

2.- I bought your Rhythmic Horizons DVD, it's great :D. I have one question regarding overriding: In this chapter you suggest different subdivisions for overriding with the hi-hat e.g. quarter notes 8ths and every 3 16ths. The relation between quarter notes and 8ths is obvious, but is there any logical relation to overriding with every 3 16ths? Or is it arbitrary and could just as well have been overriding with every 5 16ths for instance?

You could in theory make any regular spaced subdivision an override - how useful or musical it would sound is another story. I picked those quarter notes 8ths and 3/16 ths becuase the distance between each note isn't too big - so there's more chance of people latching on to them. That's the whole point of overriding - to set up a way for people to feel a secondary pulse - and one that is less complicated than the one it's sitting on top of.

Hi Fox622003

What do you use on your bass drum head hole? I saw a cool chromed ring-thing on the Arriving Somewhere DVD and not sure where to get one of those or what brand it is.


I think it's from a company called "holz".

Hi asmodeus

can you explain how playing "laid back" works? Does it actually mean some element of the drum is somewhat late measured by the click (bass-drum and snare maybe?)? In this setting is there something that is strictly on time (hi-hat?)?

It's more of a feeling - you play the way you normally play in terms of the relationship between your hi hat/snare/bass drum but just play it all a bit later. I try to play my bass drum in time with my hi hat - same with my snare drum - because I don't want to hear a flam between anything. The whole 'laying back' thing is something you have to know how it sounds (listen to some Jeff Porcaro.) - plus how it feels when you're doing it. It gives an impression of being very comfortable/confident/big/luxurious. It took me many years to be able to do it.

Hi steste50

I finally got the latest MD Festival dvd and got to see you on that stage. I was wondering if you (as well as the other drummers) took part at the mixing process of the drum sound because every drummer sounds very similar to what you find on their other recordings, you too.

Yes I mixed my section of that DVD. I don't know about the other guys - maybe they mixed theirs too?

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