martianmambo
Senior Member
This is a long post, sorry.
Some background info to contextualize my question:
So, I live in Hong Kong, which, like other parts of East Asia, has a really exam-oriented culture of education. This also applies to music, and I've been asked on numerous occasions if I'm "grade 8" (I'm from the US, where we don't use the ABRSM grading system). Something I've noticed about a number of drummers here is that they don't have a developed sense of feel, dynamics, and finesse behind the kit. Among drummers--and, really, all musicians--there is great emphasis placed on learning how to read charts, to such an extent that many people seem to rely on them rather than listening to the song, and even drummers who are skilled still rely on charts when playing a basic pop song (insofar as I can tell from watching their Youtube channels). My unresearched guess as to why their feel on the kit seems to be lacking is because of the culture's over-emphasis on reading. (This is a conclusion I drew by analogy with the general education system, where students learn lots and lots of English grammar, but don't speak mucb or read or listen to much real life English, so their English sounds stilted and unnatural). NOTE: I am absolutely not saying that this applies to all Hong Kong drummers; there are some fantastic drummers over here. I am simply referring to a general situation that I've noticed.
The point of my post:
Do you think learning to read music too early can hinder one's ability to listen to and feel the music, because of the inherently academic/analytical nature of reading music? Should music in general, and drumming in particular, be taught the same way one learns language as a child--that is, learning to speak (i.e. play) and listen before learning to read? Or do you think it doesn't really matter, as long as equal weight is given to both listening/speaking and reading?
When a couple of Hong Kong friends asked me to teach them drums, my thinking went: first, I'll teach them some basic beats and fills and a couple songs; afterward, I'll teach them to read, because the written language of music will make a lot more sense once they've internalized some basic vocabulary and grammar, so to speak. However, one friend found a different teacher closer to home (we live an hour apart), and the new teacher was shocked that I hadn't taught her how to read (though, to be clear, I had only had like 3 lessons with her).
Anyway, what are your thoughts on all this?
Some background info to contextualize my question:
So, I live in Hong Kong, which, like other parts of East Asia, has a really exam-oriented culture of education. This also applies to music, and I've been asked on numerous occasions if I'm "grade 8" (I'm from the US, where we don't use the ABRSM grading system). Something I've noticed about a number of drummers here is that they don't have a developed sense of feel, dynamics, and finesse behind the kit. Among drummers--and, really, all musicians--there is great emphasis placed on learning how to read charts, to such an extent that many people seem to rely on them rather than listening to the song, and even drummers who are skilled still rely on charts when playing a basic pop song (insofar as I can tell from watching their Youtube channels). My unresearched guess as to why their feel on the kit seems to be lacking is because of the culture's over-emphasis on reading. (This is a conclusion I drew by analogy with the general education system, where students learn lots and lots of English grammar, but don't speak mucb or read or listen to much real life English, so their English sounds stilted and unnatural). NOTE: I am absolutely not saying that this applies to all Hong Kong drummers; there are some fantastic drummers over here. I am simply referring to a general situation that I've noticed.
The point of my post:
Do you think learning to read music too early can hinder one's ability to listen to and feel the music, because of the inherently academic/analytical nature of reading music? Should music in general, and drumming in particular, be taught the same way one learns language as a child--that is, learning to speak (i.e. play) and listen before learning to read? Or do you think it doesn't really matter, as long as equal weight is given to both listening/speaking and reading?
When a couple of Hong Kong friends asked me to teach them drums, my thinking went: first, I'll teach them some basic beats and fills and a couple songs; afterward, I'll teach them to read, because the written language of music will make a lot more sense once they've internalized some basic vocabulary and grammar, so to speak. However, one friend found a different teacher closer to home (we live an hour apart), and the new teacher was shocked that I hadn't taught her how to read (though, to be clear, I had only had like 3 lessons with her).
Anyway, what are your thoughts on all this?