Y'all are missing my sarcasm, clearly.
Completely out of touch old fart irrelevant opinion - but,
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Y'all are missing my sarcasm, clearly.
Before you watch these clips, read through the post and decide which entry(s) is least likely to require skill and/or musicianship. Then watch the clips.
This is a drummer. You've probably heard of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k
This is DJ Qbert creating percussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKD0dJvaPOU
This is a guy playing 99 Red Balloons on ... red balloons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZND9dApFKU
This is Orbital "playing their laptop".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlyjoBBCHU
These are some people hitting play on an iPod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjx5_-SPhk0
Creating music is not about WHAT you use to create music, it's about HOW you use it. I think we all agree that a guy hitting play on his iPod and walking away is not being a musician at that moment. I think we also agree that a guy chopping wood, while possibly rhythmic and percussive, is not being a musician either.
When making music, intent matters. That is all. Everything else is technique and equipment to help you create the sound you hear in your head.
This is a drummer. You've probably heard of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k
This is DJ Qbert creating percussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKD0dJvaPOU
This is a guy playing 99 Red Balloons on ... red balloons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZND9dApFKU
This is Orbital "playing their laptop".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlyjoBBCHU
These are some people hitting play on an iPod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjx5_-SPhk0
Creating music is not about WHAT you use to create music, it's about HOW you use it. I think we all agree that a guy hitting play on his iPod and walking away is not being a musician at that moment. I think we also agree that a guy chopping wood, while possibly rhythmic and percussive, is not being a musician either.
When making music, intent matters. That is all. Everything else is technique and equipment to help you create the sound you hear in your head.
JimFiore
Silver Member
You do realize that polygamous marriages existed centuries ago, right?
Midnite Zephyr
Platinum Member
I was just trying to make a point. <<FAIL>>
Distinct fail, I see. The idea 'marriage' in Western terms is a relatively arbitrary and recent construct...
Midnite Zephyr
Platinum Member
It's best that I not argue with intellectuals lest I show myself to be an even bigger fool than I already am.
That was superbly entertaining, thank you /
longgun
Gold Member
Hilarious............and so true..........
GeoB
Gold Member
Come see my baton LIVE!
I mean, really, are conductors even musicians? Why not just tell the musicians to start playing and walk off?
Wow.... Unbelievable
Do you actually think that a conductor merely walks in off the street into an orchestral rehearsal hall seeking employment and asks "do you want to audition my baton waving style to see if it's cool enough?"
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Once again, I think you need your sarcasm detector testing mate!
In case it is not clear I am making the point that to the uninitiated, waving a baton has as little to do with making music as fiddling with a laptop does.
In other words, they both have EVERYTHING to do with making music. The ridiculers are merely demonstrating ignorance.
Not liking a genre of music is fine. But to claim that you don't like it because it takes no talent is inexcusable laziness and intellectually dishonest.
In other words, they both have EVERYTHING to do with making music. The ridiculers are merely demonstrating ignorance.
Not liking a genre of music is fine. But to claim that you don't like it because it takes no talent is inexcusable laziness and intellectually dishonest.
Acidline303
Senior Member
The term "DJ" has now had multiple meanings longer than it had the one meaning you ascribe to it.
People were using reel to reel machines in New York and Kingston clubs to blend tracks on a dancefloor maybe as far back as the late sixties. At the very least it's been thirty plus years since hip hop DJs hit the mainstream so I dont think a re categorization is particularly necessary when most people already know what is being talked about.
GeoB
Gold Member
Ridicule? Ignorance? Now that is funny...
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Acidline303
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And thats another aspect of electronic music performance as well. A live PA with several...maybe dozens of MIDI instruments chained together in a full fledged live reproduction of the studio performance. I can still understand how someone ignorant to the process can think there's a bit of Wizard of Oz-ery going on when you see Orbital, or The Chemical Brothers, or Underworld performing. But if they were given a minute behind the stage to see whats actually going on, I think they'd find nothing but respect for those guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-QS9Bd95mg
I do not believe that this is true. To me, the DAVINCI video demonstrates that the art form has become ridiculous, in the same manner that all previous genres have done before it. Disco, Hair bands, Milli vanilla, Puff Daddy, etc. Some new fad normally comes about to take its place. Sometimes things go retro. It's just how the show goes.
Jeremy Bender
Platinum Member
I wonder if posts on internet forums should be written as succinctly as possible due to the nature of not being able to detect sarcasm in the written word.
Sorry...back to wood shedding on the laptop before the big gig.
Sorry...back to wood shedding on the laptop before the big gig.
A lot of 'wood shedding' does take place on the laptop. Honestly. It took me just as long to competently programme basic software for musical performance as it did for me to be able to play a basic gig. Pressing 'Play' this is not. In fact, I'll put up a couple of examples...
I have an idea of what I want to do, I write a plan, I execute that plan and work with the software to make it happen. Some of the software I write is interactive, some is not. This is an example of software designed for an installation.
I have an idea of what I want to do, I write a plan, I execute that plan and work with the software to make it happen. Some of the software I write is interactive, some is not. This is an example of software designed for an installation.
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opentune
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c'mon! your software pic belongs in the gear thread, or the 'show us your POV' thread !
c'mon! your software pic belongs in the gear thread, or the 'show us your POV' thread !
Added a picture of some of my setup in that thread, as per your request! I can't play the drums here and I have another room full of gear downstairs...
