Pinning down the specifics of Phil's cymbals is tough. He seems to have liked to clean off logos, especially early on, and most logos were already small to begin with.
The early stuff (71 - 74 or so) was probably mostly all Formula 602, maybe with some 2002's mixed in. I've heard he started to use Zildjian Brilliant cymbals around '77, but seemed to continue endorsing Paiste.
His cymbal sounds around Face Value/Abacab/Three Sides Live seem to be mostly 2002.
Phil switched to Sabian in 1983, mostly playing the HH line, but he used whatever he liked the sound of. Even as late as his 1997 tour I spotted a Sound Edge hi hat in his set up.
i listed a site just above your post. it lists his cymbal brands too, tour by tour ...no 2002s. lots of Genesis freaks out there follow this stuff.
I'm familiar with the site, but it isn't complete and has some inaccuracies here and there. And while it mentions cymbal brands, it doesn't list any cymbal models unfortunately.
According to Paiste themselves, Phil's set up around the Duke/ Abacab era included a 2002 china type and hi hat, with Formula 602 crashes and ride.
I think he often used a Zildjian Swish as his Chinas most of the time, in spite of his endorsements.
What does it mean extras?Yup - I built from scratch a replica kit of Phil's that he used around that time (all drums, hardware, and cymbals are period specific) and the Paiste reference is the most "official."
Noting that he had hundreds of cymbals to pick from and would constantly move cymbals in/out of the rotation.
Use Google Translate if you don't know French. Much easier to comprehendhe used quite a variety over the years, early on Paiste, then Zildjian and Sabian HH. Drums too (not just Gretsch)
have a look at this site
http://philcollinsdrums.com/fr/batteries.html
Unless you know your gear intimately, how the heck do you tell them all apart when you do that - at least the most similar ones?Phil also had the tendency to scrub down the labels on his cymbals so there are many pics with no easier identifiers.
Anyone know what cymbals (brand/series/sizes) he used with RP(Robert Plant)?.