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Old 12-29-2014, 11:00 PM
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Ok....I've made several posts...ignore those. All I need is info on routing acrylic and wood to make the joint to make them a hybrid...that's it. Nothing else.

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Old 12-29-2014, 11:20 PM
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Ok....I've made several posts...ignore those. All I need is info on routing acrylic and wood to make the joint to make them a hybrid...that's it. Nothing else.

Thanks ..
With respect, this is getting tiresome. You're bombarding me with PMs, & I don't appreciate that. Cutting a rebate in a cylinder using a spindle moulder & ring fence is standard joinery stuff. Google that, & take it from there. Failing that, contact a joinery shop. My speciality is crafting fine sounding instruments, not making movie themed props.

Try contacting the guys on Ghostnote forum about specific build instructions. I don't have the time to give detailed step by step instructions on joinery techniques. They'll tolerate your multiple post attitude for about 10 seconds. Just because you don't get precisely the answer you want, doesn't mean you should start new threads all the time.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:29 PM
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Apologies...cheers...god bless...
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With respect, this is getting tiresome. You're bombarding me with PMs, & I don't appreciate that. Cutting a rebate in a cylinder using a spindle moulder & ring fence is standard joinery stuff. Google that, & take it from there. Failing that, contact a joinery shop. My speciality is crafting fine sounding instruments, not making movie themed props.

Try contacting the guys on Ghostnote forum about specific build instructions. I don't have the time to give detailed step by step instructions on joinery techniques. They'll tolerate your multiple post attitude for about 10 seconds. Just because you don't get precisely the answer you want, doesn't mean you should start new threads all the time.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:54 PM
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This seems as good a time as any to state how much I miss Arky, he wouldn't have stood for this nonsense.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:41 AM
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Send him to Ghostnote, hmmmm, thanks Andy.
Well, I guess we could have some fun with him, as long as he pays the $20 for a drum labs membership before we have our way with him.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:13 AM
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With respect...I have put 8300 into this kit already...sorry for being a dick...selfish and impatient . I apoligize
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:14 AM
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You've put 8,300 into a kit that you have no idea how to build?!

Do you have any kind of dependency diagram or plan? I would have researched this months before I put down that kind of scratch.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:19 AM
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:23 AM
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Final step...if worst comes to worst I'll pay one of you guys for your services....
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Do you have any kind of dependency diagram or plan? I would have researched this months before I put down that kind of scratch.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:31 AM
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Final step...if worst comes to worst I'll pay one of you guys for your services....
That's not the point. Firstly, I highly doubt anybody here is willing to take you on as a customer based on your conduct here - secondly it makes me angry to know people waste that kind of money on projects because of their own stupidity and lack of research.

You wouldn't build a house without knowing how to lay a few bricks, would you?
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:36 AM
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Making a drum kit is about fun and unique ways to express creativity...I should be hated because of the annoyance of the many posts...not me being unaware of something...
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That's not the point. Firstly, I highly doubt anybody here is willing to take you on as a customer based on your conduct here - secondly it makes me angry to know people waste that kind of money on projects because of their own stupidity and lack of research.

You wouldn't build a house without knowing how to lay a few bricks, would you?
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:40 AM
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And btw I'm 21 and have OCD and guess what..Autism to ! (Not that you give a shit)I can be eccentric and dis reach out in an innapropriate way..but I turned to wiser drummer and drum makers for knowledge I didn't have and would be grateful...does that nullify some of the hatred ?
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That's not the point. Firstly, I highly doubt anybody here is willing to take you on as a customer based on your conduct here - secondly it makes me angry to know people waste that kind of money on projects because of their own stupidity and lack of research.

You wouldn't build a house without knowing how to lay a few bricks, would you?
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:48 AM
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Guess what? I have a brother that is autistic and I work in mental health. I'm also 26 and like long walks on the beach and the work of Yukio Mishima...

There's no 'hatred' here, just irritation.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:54 AM
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Ok, I'll spell it out to try and help you.

When you join a forum and you have a specific question it helps to have some idea of what you're asking. You have to provide as much information as possible to the other people so that they can help you in the best possible way.

If nobody replies to your thread, you have to leave it at that. If somebody does reply, respectfully reply back in the thread. Private messages are for private things, like chatting with your friends about things outside of drums or for making business transactions that you don't want the rest of the World to see.

If you are making a kit, it really helps to have a very clear plan of what you need to do to make it work. You can ask one or two questions here and there - nobody has a problem with that - but it helps to keep it in one thread or people get annoyed. If you have a totally different question, you can start a new thread or (even better) ask it in an old thread that is related to what you want to know.

Nowadays, a lot of things are available for free online. Resources that will teach you the skills you need to know. It's almost always better to try and teach yourself first before asking people on a forum. If you've tried to teach yourself and become stuck then it's ok to ask on a forum if you need clarification on something.

Does that help?
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:13 AM
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I apologize for the way I treated the form. I will be less of an irritant next time I need info. Sorry
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Guess what? I have a brother that is autistic and I work in mental health. I'm also 26 and like long walks on the beach and the work of Yukio Mishima...

There's no 'hatred' here, just irritation.
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:14 AM
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Just my dream kit is all
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:40 AM
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This seems as good a time as any to state how much I miss Arky, he wouldn't have stood for this nonsense.
All you need to is send me a PM and it would have been taken care of. Andy I apologize for the PM abuse.
As long as you answer and argue and give these types an audience the abuse will continue.
This kind of non-sense from a 21 year old is ridiculous.
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Old 12-30-2014, 04:54 AM
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Here's a web site that might help you. http://pdgood.us/drumshed/hybrid.html
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Old 12-30-2014, 05:00 AM
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Yea that was the only resource on the web. Still a tad vague. But thanks for the reference.
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Old 12-30-2014, 05:18 AM
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I sympathize with the challenge of trying to do something interesting for the first time, and can only offer the following advice.

1: Buy three $10 9-ply poplar used toms from eBay or goodwill or somewhere.
2: Experiment till you either get-it, or don't.

If it's just the look you're going for.

1: Order some acrylic drums in the desired sizes.
2: Order wood-grain wraps from bumwrap
3: Get a scissor and box knife.
4: Faux Hybrid!
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Old 12-30-2014, 05:46 AM
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Really innovative! Thanks for the idea . I will practice till I get the groove just right. I mean you get what my pan was. Groove on the inside of the wood and outside of acrylic?
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I sympathize with the challenge of trying to do something interesting for the first time, and can only offer the following advice.

1: Buy three $10 9-ply poplar used toms from eBay or goodwill or somewhere.
2: Experiment till you either get-it, or don't.

If it's just the look you're going for.

1: Order some acrylic drums in the desired sizes.
2: Order wood-grain wraps from bumwrap
3: Get a scissor and box knife.
4: Faux Hybrid!
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Old 12-30-2014, 06:33 AM
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Really innovative! Thanks for the idea . I will practice till I get the groove just right. I mean you get what my pan was. Groove on the inside of the wood and outside of acrylic?
If it's tongue and groove or lap, simply get the $10 toms, carefully cut them in half, and practice with your routing table until you run out of wood. Losing a half inch at a time, you'll get to try about a dozen times per $10 tom before you need more wood.



Once you're good and can join X to Y without any issues, doubts or hesitations, pull out the acrylic.

Spare wood leftover? Learn to cut bearing edges.

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Old 12-30-2014, 06:56 AM
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So for the lap joint I just gotta make sure I reach a perfect groove...height is no problem the router bit edge can be a guide...how do I get the perfect depth? They are Keller 10 plys could I go in 5 plys maybe marker off a ring?
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If it's tongue and groove or lap, simply get the $10 toms, carefully cut them in half, and practice with your routing table until you run out of wood. Losing a half inch at a time, you'll get to try about a dozen times per $10 tom before you need more wood.



Once you're good and can join X to Y without any issues, doubts or hesitations, pull out the acrylic.

Spare wood leftover? Learn to cut bearing edges.

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Old 12-30-2014, 07:22 AM
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So for the lap joint I just gotta make sure I reach a perfect groove...height is no problem the router bit edge can be a guide...how do I get the perfect depth? They are Keller 10 plys could I go in 5 plys maybe marker off a ring?
I do not understand whether you're asking how to calculate the optimal depth or how to operate a routing table using a fence and sleeve to cut the optimal depth.

If the former, my intuition would be 1/2 the width of the thinner of the two pieces that you're joining (This is probably wrong).

Either way, I would recommend looking for a local vocational institute and booking some router instruction, or using internet resources and increasing the number of $10 test-shells you buy.
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:08 AM
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Talk of different joins and router tables is all well and good, but I think we're missing the point here folks.

Am I the only one to be disappointed that there's no Princess Leia item there?

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Old 12-30-2014, 09:52 AM
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Lol dude this is (off topic) some guy offered me some HHXs if I would stand in that costume with my moustache in front of the theater premier with a 24hr countdown flipbook lol
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Am I the only one to be disappointed that there's no Princess Leia item there?

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Unless you have a good quality table router & ring fence, or a spindle moulder, you'll struggle. Especially with acrylic, it needs to be kept stable. If you've already spent such a huge sum of money on components, then spend an extra $50 - $100 & take the parts to a local wood shop who will have the gear & expertise.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:04 AM
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Thanks K.I.S and I discussed it and after all my harassment and whining Idk if I'll do it yet...it's Just drums like you guys said. Ghost note may provide insight upon activation again thank you .(humbled)
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Unless you have a good quality table router & ring fence, or a spindle moulder, you'll struggle. Especially with acrylic, it needs to be kept stable. If you've already spent such a huge sum of money on components, then spend an extra $50 - $100 & take the parts to a local wood shop who will have the gear & expertise.
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