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Old 01-26-2012, 04:24 PM
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In 1983 he was diagnosed as schizophrenic, attacked his mother with a hammer, then fatally stabbed her. He was given 16 years to life in 1984. This is according to Wiki.

I decided to read up on Blaine, Keltner and Gordon, I started with Gordon, and found this.
Does anyone know if he got out and if so what he's been up to? Kinda shocked, I wasn't expecting this.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:34 PM
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intersting info.

his playing in Bell Bottom Blues (reverse) is unique.
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:14 PM
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In 1983 he was diagnosed as schizophrenic, attacked his mother with a hammer, then fatally stabbed her. He was given 16 years to life in 1984. This is according to Wiki.

I decided to read up on Blaine, Keltner and Gordon, I started with Gordon, and found this.
Does anyone know if he got out and if so what he's been up to? Kinda shocked, I wasn't expecting this.
I believe he's still incarcerated. There was a lengthy Rolling Stone article from the 80's that detailed his sad story, that you might be able to find on the web (that's where I found it, some years ago).

I recently bought the Beach Boys' Smile Sessions box, and noticed that Jim Gordon played on a fair amount of the sessions (like "Heroes and Villains"). I think he was only around 20 or 21 at the time (this was 1966-1967), and was just breaking into L.A. session work (I think Blaine was referring him for work that he (Blaine) was unavailable for).

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Old 01-26-2012, 07:22 PM
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Wow, didnt know this.. what a shame...

I loved his playing on Derek & the Dominos, and some of the old Traffic tunes. He, like Bonham, was well ahead of his time, and playing drums at a different level from his contemporaries..
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:27 PM
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I heard a few years ago that he is still in a mental hospital.

He has been pretty much financially independent all these years due to his royalties for his co-writing credit on Layla.

Many think that his drug use contributed greatly to his mental condition. If he was in the same situation today with all the awareness, treatments, etc.. he may have never gotten so ill that he would have killed his mother.

It's a shame. Great drummer.

I've often wondered whether he still plays drums at all these days.
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:33 PM
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As far as I know, he is still locked up.

I always like this picture.


One of the top studio drummers at the time, and his toms not only don't match, they they aren't even the same brand. It is a reminder how caught up we tend to get with having all our gear just so, when the guys who made legendary albums didn't care how it looked, or if it matched, or was even the same brand, as long as it sounded right and got the job done.
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:36 PM
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What a great musician!
Here's the Rolling Stone article...

http://cshsbandboosters.org/Document...articlepdf.pdf
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:03 PM
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What a great musician!
Here's the Rolling Stone article...

http://cshsbandboosters.org/Document...articlepdf.pdf
Thanks for the article. What a tragic story about a guy who had everything going for him.


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Old 01-26-2012, 09:14 PM
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What a great musician!
Here's the Rolling Stone article...

http://cshsbandboosters.org/Document...articlepdf.pdf
Yes, thank you for finding the link.

Such a sad and disturbing story.
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yeah he's legendary, obviously not cool what he did. but a great musician.
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He's still locked up. There's a petition out there to try and get him out on parole. http://jamiethompson.net/jim_gordon.htm

The lineage of busy LA studio drummers kind of went from Earl Palmer to Hal Blaine to Jim Gordon to Jim Keltner to Jeff Porcaro. As one guy got too busy, he'd pass work on to the next guy. The golden age of studio drumming.

That's Jim Gordon on Steely Dan's Rikki Don't Lose That Number.

Tragic story..
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:43 PM
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Indeed a very, very sad story. Real shame. I was aware of the petition to get him out but he keeps being ruled to stay in, I guess a risk to re-offend. Mental illness can creep in the background for years. While his was not totally drug-related, apparently his problems did increase after intense drug use, starting with the Derek/Domino sessions. I read this in one of Claptons books.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:54 PM
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While his was not totally drug-related, apparently his problems did increase after intense drug use, starting with the Derek/Domino sessions. I read this in one of Claptons books.
The Derek and the Dominoes sessions were notoriously drug fueled. Everyone, not just Jim was high for weeks and that's way up in the air, sky high.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:57 PM
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Just reading about this a few days ago. I guess 'tragic' covers it.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:57 AM
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As far as I know, he is still locked up.

I always like this picture.


One of the top studio drummers at the time, and his toms not only don't match, they they aren't even the same brand. It is a reminder how caught up we tend to get with having all our gear just so, when the guys who made legendary albums didn't care how it looked, or if it matched, or was even the same brand, as long as it sounded right and got the job done.
Looks like a Camco/Rogers combo... IIRC he was never a endorser for anyone, he used that same Oaklawn era Camco kit for ages. A piece of rock and roll history IMHO.
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He helped classics happen. I loved his drumming with Thelma. Tragic life.

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Old 01-27-2012, 01:47 AM
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Looks like a Camco/Rogers combo... IIRC he was never a endorser for anyone, he used that same Oaklawn era Camco kit for ages. A piece of rock and roll history IMHO.
Close.That tom is a 70's vintage Tama superstar.The lugs are very similar to Rogers beavertail.

It really is a tragedy.This may have been avoided with proper diagnosis,and treatment.I saw him play twice in the 70's.Once with the Dominoes at the Fillmore East,and a year or two later in Central Park with the Souther,Hillman and Furay band.Great drummer,and definately an influence.

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Old 01-28-2012, 01:50 AM
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fantastic drummer, Clapton has said he's the best he ever played with.

Cool list of people he played for too, Delaney and Bonnie, Joe Cocker, Leon Russell, when Eric was Derek (obv) etc etc etc.

I heard that they found a hit list on him at some point and Clapton was top, that sounds creepy, but could obviously be just a story and not real.

Big influence on me, the music side that is,
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Old 01-28-2012, 02:45 AM
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I knew he'd had some major tragedy and I thought he was dead.

Very sad all round.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:12 AM
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Yeah, the group that performed "Bellbottom Blues",Derek and the Dominoes, had a pretty tragic history. Carl Radle, the bass player, was said to have died penniless in New Orleans. Duane Allman, one of the lead guitarists, was killed in a motorcycle accident, Eric Clapton lost a son and Jim Gordon has been in a mental home for quite a while now. I'm sure about the singer Bobby Whitlock. A damn shame really.
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:35 AM
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jim, was one of my favorite players...still is. the allmusic credits will hip you to the songs he played on. epic cat.

very sad, as well.

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Old 01-31-2012, 04:05 PM
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I heard that it was him being forced to play a Mapex kit that provoked this unfortunate incidence -)
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I remember hearing this story a few years back. And since then I tell everyone about it when a songs comes on that has him in it. Very much agree, a damn shame. Absolutely love his stuff with Joe Cocker.

Let's remember the good stuff though.
Johnny Cash Show: Derek And The Dominos - It's Too Late
http://youtu.be/pWGa9TSIcfA
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Hey thanks for that video from the Johnny Cash show. A great band that was. I would rate the Layla album one of the top 10 in Rock music.
But check out the clip at 1:17.....what's that hanging from Jim Gordon's snare? A rag, or a towel draped on the snare? To protect buzz or to mute?
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:19 PM
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The towel is to mute.
I thought he died a few years ago.
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I thought Jim Gordon worked with Batman.
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Why not? He worked with everybody else. He was definitely one of my musical guiding lights. Even my old instructor, who used to play with Benny Goodman, liked Jim Keltner. This is the same guy who said that any drummer other than Buddy Rich was a lightweight but he definitely thought the world of Keltner. .
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I read his profile on DW. There was a sentence in there that was really tough to read. His royalties from Layla help pay for his treatment.

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jim_Gordon.html
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I read his profile on DW. There was a sentence in there that was really tough to read. His royalties from Layla help pay for his treatment.

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jim_Gordon.html
Ya that is heartbreaking, but also uplifting on the other side of the coin. At least his contributions are financially rewarded, to help him later in life. Worse is he could have been ripped off like so many others from the era, and have nothing to show. The story goes that during studio 'downtime' Clapton heard him hammering on the (now famous) piano parts of Layla, and said "hey can we work that up together?" Gordon obliged.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:01 AM
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His "Later In Life" was in a mental institution/jail. I hardly think his royalties got him much more than cartons of cigarettes.
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I love that clip from the Johnny Cash show, there's a 2nd part to it where Johnny plays as does Carl Perkins.

I also love this clip.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xio...min-home_music

not a bad line up there, inc a Beatle, God, and what would later be The Stones 'Exile' brass section.
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