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Old 12-19-2010, 07:11 AM
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I thought about putting this under drum gear/cymbals, but I thought this might be a better spot since it's not about particular cymbals but, rather taste. I already know how I feel about this but I'd like to know how others feel. Do you like your top hat cymbal tight in the clutch, slightly loose or very loose? Why?
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:02 AM
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Slightly loose for me. Tight tends to reduce lovely open overtones & chokes the bell. I do use the bell quite a bit in some stuff. Very loose doesn't deliver the speed of control I want, & too much pedal travel.
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:32 AM
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I have my top hat screwed up fairly loosely too. I think most people would have the top hat fairly loose - having the cymbal clamped tight wouldn't have too many practical applications.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:34 PM
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I keep mine a bit tighter for quicker articulation and response because I do a lot of very quick, precise slurs and barks. However, to keep the top hat from getting damaged, I use the rubber grommets instead of felts so that it can give a bit.
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Old 12-19-2010, 05:51 PM
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Moderately loose to just loose. As long as I'm not hearing an extra click (the clutch being too loose) I like it and I'm able to control it well. This is strictly tonal reasoning to me. However, at the end of my drummeworld 3 clip I demonstrate a neat visual trick which can only be achieved with a fairly loose to loos clutch. I also focus on where my hats are projecting. Interesting to note Max Roach use to play with a smaller top hat than a bottom hat so they projected up and out.
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Old 12-25-2010, 01:20 PM
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I like mine tight. I never liked the floppy hi hat feel, and when I leave the top loose the nut always seems to come unscrewed, and the clutch comes loose. This usually only happens live, so it's probably just me bashing too much, and the vibrations loosen the nut. And, interesting new word you came up with there- qukestion.
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Old 12-25-2010, 01:25 PM
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Personly I preffer it tight. I find it makes it easyer and smoother to play, plus I like the sound better :)
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Old 12-25-2010, 02:01 PM
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Used to play mine tight then over the years as with most things in this art my tastes changed and now it's slightly loose.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:44 PM
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Slightly loose works for me.
Just loose enough so that there isn't too much wasted movement to open the hats.
Too tight and sound is compromised when playing partially open and when playing on or near the bell.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:00 PM
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:01 PM
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I have it as loose as I can get away with, but that doesn't seem to be very loose at all...just slightly looser than as tight as it goes, in practice.. I like the control of having it tighter, and I've never had a hi-hat stand/clutch that responded well to being very loose at all.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:23 AM
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Hey zickos, don't want to hijack the thread but did you ever recover the zicko's?
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Hi-Hat Qukestion

Too tight does choke...

Too loose is sloppy...

This is what I like...



- Very Loose

- Loose

- Med Loose

- Medium - Here

- Med Tight - Or Here

- Tight

- Very Tight
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:31 AM
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Depends on which pair of hats I'm playing with. My 13" hats I like tight, as I do my late 70s New Beats. Everything else, I like loose. When I play the hats loose, I also slip a section of rubber tubing over the clutch so the hats don't rub the clutch threads...

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Old 12-28-2010, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Hi-Hat Qukestion

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I'm not tellin. .
Nice, haha!

I keep mine pretty tight. I too have had issues with it coming loose mid-song before. I've tried different clutches and still get the same results. I tighten mine down, then have my hats only open slightly open to get the washy open-hat sound. It works for me.
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I thought they were just like Kieth Moon's.
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Hey zickos, don't want to hijack the thread but did you ever recover the zicko's?
No, but we're still working on it.
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