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Old 03-14-2009, 07:58 PM
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In a band's song, I find it very annoying if the snare rings a lot like on the RHCP album Stadium Arcadium, most Lamb Of God and Dream Theater songs and of course, the infamous St. Anger by Metallica. I also hate cardboard-box snares, like on some early Motorhead songs. My idea of a good snare sound is one that you don't notice, therefore it won't grate or get on your nerves. The best snare sound I've heard recently is on the Iron Maiden album The Number Of The Beast. You?
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Hmmm.... well for bass, i really really like the sound of billy joel's drummer's bass in New York State of Mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNm39BzFP2I

for snare... hmmm

I really like a lot of different sounds....like Godsmacks I stand alone, the snare is godly, with so much "oompf" and power.

In Cliff's of Dover by Eric Johnson, his snare is incredibly poppy and lively, perfect for that song.

Oh and in fool in the rain, ahh man bonzo's snare sound is amazing.

oh and chad smith's snare on the recording of soul to squeeze...uhhhh amazing.

oh and.....
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I love Bonzo's snare tone on the outro of Rock and Roll. For me, it's just dry and just wet enough.

Damn Supra's with their great tone!! :D

I also like some of the Alex Van Halen "brown sound" stuff. If I could afford it, I'd invest in one of the new AVH signature drums Ludwig just issued.
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John Bonham every time. The tone from the 1970 Albert Hall gig on the DVD is just...edible.
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Snare sound on most Steely Dan music. Yeah I know I'm old, but listen to some of this music and all you hear is crisp, sensitive snare sound.
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+1 Bonzo's snare http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/j...arkromans.html

Frank Zappa- Peaches en Regalia (ron selico on drums) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_BsIiBGFw4

Umphrey's McGee's album Anchor Drops has some sweet sounding snares. Wide-open tuning on songs like 13 days, walletsworth, robot world
or on their album the Bottom Half the track Great American has a great sounding snare.
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Stewart Copeland. The Police 1979-1986
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My idea of a good snare sound is one that fits the tone of the song it's in. I'm not a fan of the 70's Eagles/Steely Dan cardboard-box tone; it doesn't bug me as much in the snare sound as it does when the toms sound like plastic trash cans played on the bottom... Some of my favorite snare sounds are on "The Reality Of My Surroundings" by Fishbone, "Siamese Dream" by Smashing Pumpkins, any Bonham, Copeland... obviously I don't care about whether it rings or how much. On Our Lady Peace's first album, there's some VERY ringy snare sounds, but it fits the mood.
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Don Brewer - GFR OR John Densmore - The Doors

All of their kits sound tight, love the snare sound from both, I think Brewer has a slight edge on overall sound.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQzvbuMo2HQ i really love camille gainers snare sound off the top of my head.
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"One Headlight" by the Wallflowers.
"Hells Bells", "Back in Black" AC/DC
"Gone, Gone, Gone" Miles Davis from Porgy & Bess
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Everything Must Go - Steely Dan (Keith Carlock)
Stadium Arcadium - Red Hot Chili Peppers (Chad Smith)
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I Think If I Had To Pick One Snare Sound It Would Be Abe Cunningham On The Deftones "Around The Fur"

Its A Really Crisp Crack And It Just Cuts Through So Well!
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I agree with the Bonham remarks above. The official answer being "any snare that John Bonham hit".
Another favorite is Steve Gorman's snare, especially on the live album with Jimmy Page. What a crack! If anyone out there knows what heads, tuning, etc. were done to accomplish this sound, please pass it along.
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I love Bonzo's snare tone on the outro of Rock and Roll. For me, it's just dry and just wet enough.

Damn Supra's with their great tone!! :D

I also like some of the Alex Van Halen "brown sound" stuff. If I could afford it, I'd invest in one of the new AVH signature drums Ludwig just issued.
I believe the "Brown Sound" was a referrence to Eddie Van Halen's guitar tone...not Alex's snare tone. He used to keep his amp and guitar settings a secret.
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Actually the 'brown sound' was originally to describe Alex's snare, but it eventually became about EVH's guitar sound. Appropriate for both!
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A Ludwig Supraphonic 402 with no muffling, best snare out there!!!!!
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Chad Sexton - 311......
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I actually like a bit of ring. If i'm honest TS i used to be just like you when i first started having an interest in drums. I thought "oh i hate it when snares ring" but then i realised that the ring is half the point of the snare drum sound! The other thing is that you would probably find that if you listened to most of the recordings of your "ideal" snare drum sound without any of the other instruments then it would be a ringy sound because without that when the other instruments are mixed in you end up with that cardboard box sound that you said. So yeah that's what i like.
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Carter Beauford from the Dave Matthews Band got a great snare tone on the albums Under the Table and Dreaming and Crash. The drum sounds warm, but at the same time it's really tight-sounding with plenty of hi-end articulation (what I like to call the "crack" factor) I think he used a drum which was custom-made by legendary drum tech Jeff Ochletree, but I'm not quite certain on that one.
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I actually like a bit of ring. If i'm honest TS i used to be just like you when i first started having an interest in drums. I thought "oh i hate it when snares ring" but then i realised that the ring is half the point of the snare drum sound! The other thing is that you would probably find that if you listened to most of the recordings of your "ideal" snare drum sound without any of the other instruments then it would be a ringy sound because without that when the other instruments are mixed in you end up with that cardboard box sound that you said. So yeah that's what i like.
Actually I'm using a snare that rings quite a lot ATM and when I mix music over it it sounds like a cardboard box
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"bittersweet" - stanton moore - galactic
"i don't need no doctor" - steve jordan - john scofield & john mayer
"sprung monkey" - stanton moore
"cissy strut" - zigaboo modeliste - the meters
"in repair" - steve jordan - john mayer
"trouble" - brady blade - dave matthews
"#41" - carter beauford - dave matthews band
"hamp's hump" - stanton moore - galactic
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"thinking" - zig modeliste - the meters
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Actually I'm using a snare that rings quite a lot ATM and when I mix music over it it sounds like a cardboard box
I used to get that too. When i got a decent snare drum though that i could tune higher i found that i could actually hear it which is good. Also close miking the snare really helps.
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Queensryche "Empire", the whole album.

Dream Theater "A Change of Seasons"

Those two have always stood out to me.
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The sound of the drums keep changing with the times. In the 70's it was a fat ludwig sound. In the 80's the gated reverb was on all of the drums. In the 90's it was a sharp crack. The important thing is that the 2 and 4 cut through the mix. The rest is just personal preference.

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Carter Beauford from the Dave Matthews Band got a great snare tone on the albums Under the Table and Dreaming and Crash. The drum sounds warm, but at the same time it's really tight-sounding with plenty of hi-end articulation (what I like to call the "crack" factor) I think he used a drum which was custom-made by legendary drum tech Jeff Ochletree, but I'm not quite certain on that one.
Thanks for reminding me of that snare sound. One of my definite favorites!

But I am fairly certain that was an Ocheltree Phantom Steel snare. It was a limited run rather than a real custom job. Steve Smith used one for years as his main snare. I have a very similar Ocheltree Dangerous model. Great snare. (Heavy, though!)

It's so hard to pick favorites with so many, but I keep coming back to the incredible drumming sounds Gregg Bissonette laid down on Joe Satriani's "The Extremist" album. Every piece of the kit and every cymbal sound so amazing.
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Joe Morello's snare on Time Out is perfect. My least favorite is the snare on Icky Thump, it sounds like all the drums were recorded from far away, but the snare sounds like it was miced too and turned up way too loud.
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I really just love the sound of a snare drum. There are so many kinds of snares and so many ways of tuning them, and I pretty much just love them all. Most versatile drum in the kit. I CELEBRATE THE SNARE ECLECTIC!

However, I have to say that just about my all-time fave is a Supra, and Bonham's in particular. I've always thought of his snare as sounding like an ax chopping wood. A great big ax and a huge piece of wood! Hammer of the Gods!
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There are so many great snare sounds out there,some of my fav's is Bonham's of

course,but I also like the snare on Gadd's 50 ways too leave you lover and also Mike

Portnoy's snare on Dream Theater's Awake I like more of a poppy,snappy type snare

instead of the snare sound of the 80's where the wires are totally loose and like they had

a snare on a floor tom LOL the dw Edge snares are pretty-sweet but expensive.

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My favorite snare sound is Gavin Harrison's, I really love this snare!!
I emailed Gavin about it and ended up buying one, 14x6.5 Sonor Cottonwood.
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/gavinharrisonfutile.html
I also really like the sound of Chris Layton's snare on a lot of the old SRV tunes.

Speaking of snares, anyone hear the new one from Pearl Jam, "brother". I can't stand that snare sound.....
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