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Old 05-25-2016, 07:48 AM
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So I was robbed for the first time. Some guy broke into my house while I was in the city and made off with pretty much everything. Most of the stuff taken was electronics but the bastard also took my Zildjian A cymbal set and my brand-new, never-played Zildjian L80 cymbals. Thankfully he was too lazy to take my case full of Bosphorus cymbals and my drumset.

But I just can't make myself setup the drums and cymbals. I feel dirty touching them. I'm obsessed with finding the thief but it seems impossible. The cops are useless, there are no usable fingerprints or security footage and no witnesses. The best bet I have is occasionally checking the pawn shops and online sales and hoping I'll catch the guy.

I know musicians are frequently the victims of theft. How do you get over this? I feel like I can't move on. All I can do is reprimand myself for not having more security (which I'm now fixing), not locking up the important stuff, etc. I know that doesn't accomplish anything but I just don't know how to say "oh well, all that stuff's gone, bad luck!" and whistle and move on.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:55 AM
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But I just can't make myself setup the drums and cymbals. I feel dirty touching them.
So sorry to hear of this, but the low life has already beaten you up once, don't continue to heap on the pain yourself. I understand the feeling of intrusion, & someone else "soiling" your drums, but don't let that change the view of your instrument. Don't let that b&%$rd score more than he already has!!!
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:00 AM
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Man, that is terrible! Like Andy said, don't beat yourself up over it and don't let it ruin the drums for you. Hang in there and maybe they'll even turn up.
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Old 05-25-2016, 11:16 AM
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Do you have insurance that'll cover it for you?
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Old 05-25-2016, 12:53 PM
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I know it probably sounds weird, but take the drums apart and give everything a good clean and a tune up. Do it as a kind of ritual fresh start. Maybe give the whole house a spring clean if that's what you need to do.

It's not about the missing property at all. It's a real shock to the system when you think your own home is the safest place to keep things, and it turns out not be as safe as you thought.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:29 PM
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Sorry to hear that man..... This is a drummers worst nightmare... To be honest I would scour Craigslist, eBay, Reverb, Local music shops etc. Local places I would call or go into and let them know before hand for a heads up if someone comes in...

I have some Zildjian Gen16 cymbals that I don't use I have a 16" crash and 18" ride. They are basically the same thing as L80 I believe they just are silver and not bronze. If you send me shipping for the cymbals I will give them to you for free. I don't play them anymore and selling them for few bucks does nothing for me. If you are interested let me know.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:32 PM
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I had everything taken out of my garage about a decade ago and because I had pictures my renters insurance covered almost all of it. Not sure of your current insurance situation, but if you have it I would certainly be talking to somebody.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:54 PM
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I feel your pain.

In 1972 my apartment was robbed, taking all of my gear. Every bit. A Martin guitar, a highly abused '59 Les Paul, amps, etc... My kit was elsewhere.

One of the room mates had renters insurance which covered it, marginally.

At that point I basically lost traction and really never recovered and had to drop out of a very nice group which was working quite regularly. I could still drum, but other gigs and projects had to be shelved for many years and opportunities were lost at that point.

All of which forced me into other vocations to pay the bills.

So ended my career as "Rock Musician" bummer really, but in retrospect every thing turned out okay overall.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:56 PM
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They're scum. We had it happen to us in 2004. I had my cymbals stolen and my mate had his 1981 strat nicked.

We spent days trawling music shops handing out lists of what got stolen.

I was very lucky, the f*ckwit who had my cymbals threw them into a bush not knowing they were all top end paiste and zildjian and they showed up six months later, all the bars and venues knew what had happened so I got the lot back in a soggy cymbal bag. No such joy with the strat.

Best advice is put the word out and hope for the best. If you think the police are bad in the US, try the UK they'd probably accuse you of insurance fraud
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Gutted to hear this. You has my sympathies. There's no good thing to say, except to say we feel your pain too. Is there anything we can do for you?
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I have some Zildjian Gen16 cymbals that I don't use I have a 16" crash and 18" ride. They are basically the same thing as L80 I believe they just are silver and not bronze. If you send me shipping for the cymbals I will give them to you for free. I don't play them anymore and selling them for few bucks does nothing for me. If you are interested let me know.
Wow, that's a very generous gesture Walter.

AllTheCoolNames, so sorry to hear about this. The instruments we play become a part of us so I reckon this is especially painful. My condolences.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:40 PM
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I'm obsessed with finding the thief but it seems impossible. The cops are useless, there are no usable fingerprints or security footage and no witnesses.
The cops aren't "useless", you just can't provide them with anything useful to go on.
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Wow, that's a very generous gesture Walter.

AllTheCoolNames, so sorry to hear about this. The instruments we play become a part of us so I reckon this is especially painful. My condolences.
Thanks spleeeeen.

I cant empathize with OP but I do have sympathy for him.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:47 PM
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Gutted to hear this. You has my sympathies. There's no good thing to say, except to say we feel your pain too. Is there anything we can do for you?
Larry speaks from experience. A year or so ago he had a van full of drum gear and a dirtbag stole the whole van.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:55 PM
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If you have homeowners insurance or renters insurance file a police report. They may not find your gear but the insurance company will require it. Hopefully your deductible isn't so high as to make it a wash. Let them ask questions about your security without volunteering too much
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:58 PM
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I really appreciate the offers of assistance.

I probably should have mentioned that I now live in Mexico. My wife is from Mexico and had some family tragedies this year, so I agreed to move here to try to start a new life closer to her family. And right after we dropped our stuff off in our house we got robbed.

You can get robbed anywhere, and in retrospect what we did was supremely stupid. The house is out in the country. It's very dark at night (the streetlights don't work most of the time out here). If I'd paid more attention I would have noticed that most of the neighbors have electrified fencing or concertina wire on top of their walls, bars over their windows, cameras, etc. It's not a high crime town - in fact the city has the lowest crime index in Mexico - but thieves are animals of opportunity, and I gave them an opportunity. It's like being the one guy on the block without a car alarm. Having never been robbed before it just wasn't something I considered a serious risk.

I'm going to try to cheer up and hope the stuff turns up eventually. But yeah, it was a real double gut-punch, trying to start a new life in a foreign land and being greeted that way. But I have to say other than the thief everyone has been extremely nice. It's just ironic for the cops to be telling you about how crime-free the city is while they're taking fingerprints from your remaining belongings.

Thanks again.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:59 PM
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I don't know how one gets over something like this. My apartment was robbed on the night of a gig two weeks before I gt married. That was tough. But taking my drums?!? that would be more personal somehow!
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Larry speaks from experience. A year or so ago he had a van full of drum gear and a dirtbag stole the whole van.
That happened on Mothers day 2011, it's been 5 years already. There's something much more personal and disturbing about having your house robbed. It's definitely way worse. And I was gigging my drums, so I didn't lose them. I did get my spare stuff stolen, along with a crap ton of tools. I lost a brass Sensitone snare drum, a DW pedal, and bag of cords in addition to my tools. They left me my ladders that were on my roof. I got the empty van back the next morning, parked in a known crackhead neighborhood with a broken ignition, and a broken door lock. Two weeks later my trans took a dump at rush hour on a busy road, while I was first in line at a traffic light. After a lot of horns honking, I got out and started pushing, and I got help from the motorists behind me. It was definitely because the perps beat the hell out of my trans during the theft. The kicker is, I believe the police facilitated this theft. There's a lot more to the story about why I believe that, but this thread isn't about that.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I really appreciate the offers of assistance.

I probably should have mentioned that I now live in Mexico. My wife is from Mexico and had some family tragedies this year, so I agreed to move here to try to start a new life closer to her family. And right after we dropped our stuff off in our house we got robbed.

You can get robbed anywhere, and in retrospect what we did was supremely stupid. The house is out in the country. It's very dark at night (the streetlights don't work most of the time out here). If I'd paid more attention I would have noticed that most of the neighbors have electrified fencing or concertina wire on top of their walls, bars over their windows, cameras, etc. It's not a high crime town - in fact the city has the lowest crime index in Mexico - but thieves are animals of opportunity, and I gave them an opportunity. It's like being the one guy on the block without a car alarm. Having never been robbed before it just wasn't something I considered a serious risk.

I'm going to try to cheer up and hope the stuff turns up eventually. But yeah, it was a real double gut-punch, trying to start a new life in a foreign land and being greeted that way. But I have to say other than the thief everyone has been extremely nice. It's just ironic for the cops to be telling you about how crime-free the city is while they're taking fingerprints from your remaining belongings.

Thanks again.
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Old 05-25-2016, 09:21 PM
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That is the worst feeling in the world... so sorry man
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That happened on Mothers day 2011, it's been 5 years already. There's something much more personal and disturbing about having your house robbed. It's definitely way worse. And I was gigging my drums, so I didn't lose them. I did get my spare stuff stolen, along with a crap ton of tools. I lost a brass Sensitone snare drum, a DW pedal, and bag of cords in addition to my tools. They left me my ladders that were on my roof. I got the empty van back the next morning, parked in a known crackhead neighborhood with a broken ignition, and a broken door lock. Two weeks later my trans took a dump at rush hour on a busy road, while I was first in line at a traffic light. After a lot of horns honking, I got out and started pushing, and I got help from the motorists behind me. It was definitely because the perps beat the hell out of my trans during the theft. The kicker is, I believe the police facilitated this theft. There's a lot more to the story about why I believe that, but this thread isn't about that.
That was 5 ****ing years? What the hell? I need to slow down my life a bit.
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That really blows. Maybe ask some of the neighbors if they saw anything?
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You could think about it kind of like moving. When I had to move, I had to think about insuring things vs. just trying to pack them well. It turns out that the things that I valued had little in the way of insuring. A hand built dulcimer for example. If it were a signed signature edition of a guitar it would have made sense to insure, but since it wasn't all that valuable well, than just to me because I built it, makes no sense to insure.

My point is that what thieves go after to make a quick buck, generally are sort of commodity items that are easily replaceable, and probably of little sentimental value.
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Man, that sucks bro.

I remember when my uncle lost his nice Yammy set. He left it in his VW Bus overnight at his apartment complex. It was after a gig, and he was going to bring the drums into his place in the AM. He had to replace them with some Export drums.

I have lost a few drum sets in my day. It sucks bro.
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So I was robbed for the first time. Some guy broke into my house while I was in the city and made off with pretty much everything. Most of the stuff taken was electronics but the bastard also took my Zildjian A cymbal set and my brand-new, never-played Zildjian L80 cymbals. Thankfully he was too lazy to take my case full of Bosphorus cymbals and my drumset.

But I just can't make myself setup the drums and cymbals. I feel dirty touching them. I'm obsessed with finding the thief but it seems impossible. The cops are useless, there are no usable fingerprints or security footage and no witnesses. The best bet I have is occasionally checking the pawn shops and online sales and hoping I'll catch the guy.

I know musicians are frequently the victims of theft. How do you get over this? I feel like I can't move on. All I can do is reprimand myself for not having more security (which I'm now fixing), not locking up the important stuff, etc. I know that doesn't accomplish anything but I just don't know how to say "oh well, all that stuff's gone, bad luck!" and whistle and move on.
Last summer 8/13/15 our house was burglarized. Although they didn't steal any musical gear they still got about 10 g's worth of stuff mostly my wife's jewelry and our big screen. It has been difficult to deal with but due to karma & the hard work of the Waukesha & Washington County Sheriff's Dept mixed with a lucky break they caught the scum bags and they are going to trial for more than 30 armed burglaries.

6/13/16 we will be at the sub human's hearing on our case.

We had a home security system installed earlier this year and it has given us comfort but the thought of them in our house still haunts us. I hope they find out who did this to you and bring them to justice. I want to have these a hole's sent to Monkey Island covered in peanut butter and watch it on pay preview and only then will I have complete closure.
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Last summer 8/13/15 our house was burglarized. Although they didn't steal any musical gear they still got about 10 g's worth of stuff mostly my wife's jewelry and our big screen. It has been difficult to deal with but due to karma & the hard work of the Waukesha & Washington County Sheriff's Dept mixed with a lucky break they caught the scum bags and they are going to trial for more than 30 armed burglaries.

6/13/16 we will be at the sub human's hearing on our case.

We had a home security system installed earlier this year and it has given us comfort but the thought of them in our house still haunts us. I hope they find out who did this to you and bring them to justice. I want to have these a hole's sent to Monkey Island covered in peanut butter and watch it on pay preview and only then will I have complete closure.
It really is weird, it's like I've joined a sad fraternity. Seems lots of people have been robbed.

I'm trying to look at the positives, like the fact that they didn't take my drums or Bosphorus cymbals. And I even found my stick bag, which I thought they'd taken.

We put in an electric fence on top of the back three walls and sealed all the open areas of our front wall. Right now a thief would need a 4-meter ladder just to get over the front, and without welding tools they'd be unable to open the gate again to get stuff out. I'm looking into adding one or two security cameras. But I notice that each night if we're out, as the sun goes down I get really antsy and I want to get back to the house.

But yeah the only thing that would really make me happy would be catching the guys. It's like that movie "The Vanishing", as much as I want my stuff back I also want to know who it is and how they got in, and see them get punished. Jail here is pretty rough.

On the plus side I did set up my drums and play them, and they're loud as cannons out here in the country in a mostly empty house. :-P I'm going to have to look into making a soundproof room.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:01 PM
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That sucks to hear. Having been robbed more than once I understand feeling like crap about it. What I hated most about it was/is the fact that someone got one over on me and I'll never know who.
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*burgled.

I know I come off like a troll, but if you weren't there, you were burgled, not robbed.

How do I know? I was burgled twice in the span of six months. The asshat took all our electronics. Computers, tablets, flat screen TV, entertainment systems, speakers, wireless routers, and an extensive library of video games (belonging to my sons). Twice. Yes, I purchased all new gear only to have it stolen again.

Talk about feeling burned.

Then my insurance company accuses me of fraud the second time it happened and I had to produce receipts and photos of everything. And the cops recovered a laptop and PS4, so the insurance company did not reimburse use for that, even though the items were to be used as evidence for a court case that would last over a year.

Yup. They caught the guy. With over $250,000 worth of electronics in his apartment. He's currently doing 5–7 years in a state penitentiary.

Even though they caught the guy, it still sucks.

Edit: the numbnut did not steal any drums, cymbals, pro French horn ($3500) or pro trombone ($2500). Otherwise I'd have probably vaped my brain into a coma.
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*burgled.

I know I come off like a troll, but if you weren't there, you were burgled, not robbed.
Don't worry you don't come off like a troll.. you come off like an asshole...

P.S. sorry mods.. but that was just a wtf response to someone having something like this happen to them..

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