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Old 12-22-2014, 07:31 PM
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It's an interesting question, because it means not just top favorite albums, but albums that impacted my drumming.

Queensryche: Operation MindCrime - Scott Rockenfield. To me Scott was the perfect 1/2 way point between basic pounding drumming and the technicality of some one like Neil Peart. He knew when to just keep it simple and driving, and when to throw in something a little sideways. This style meant bands wanted to play with me because I didn't over play, but I could keep it interesting for myself.

Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here - Nick Mason. Here I learned about space, and placement, and the beauty of simple ride, and putting feeling into sparseness.

Tom Petty and the Heart Breakers - Best of - Stan Lynch. How does he play such simple parts but make it feel like he's playing a million dollar part? I'm always trying to inject that into rock/pop songs.

Journey - Captured/Escape/Frontiers - Steve Smith. Big bombastic tom fills, hints of fusion, laying back on the ballads, pushing on the rock songs. There is a jazz influence, but also double bass. There are shuffles, but also pounding rock. Bombastic and subtle. He did it all.

Dream Theater - Images and Words - Mike Portnoy. Although I would say Terry Bozzio and Deen Castronovo are much, much bigger influences and more important to me than Mike, the fact is they made few albums I could listen to repetitively. Mike took everything they did and presented in a palatable context.

Led Zeppelin - various - John Bonham. I've never really been into listen to Zep albums as a whole, but Bonham's control of feel is a huge influence.

Switch Blade Symphony - Serpentine Gallery - a drum machine. A bit of an obscure album, but this turned my world upside down. I feel in love with the beauty of the groove, the idea of playing music for dancing, and that music doesn't have to have prog/complex/Mike Portnoy style playing to be interesting.
It's about the music, not just having a good drummer.
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Old 12-22-2014, 08:16 PM
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It's an interesting question, because it means not just top favorite albums, but albums that impacted my drumming...

Switch Blade Symphony - Serpentine Gallery - a drum machine. A bit of an obscure album, but this turned my world upside down. I feel in love with the beauty of the groove, the idea of playing music for dancing, and that music doesn't have to have prog/complex/Mike Portnoy style playing to be interesting.
It's about the music, not just having a good drummer.
Indeed.

When I first heard Billy Idol's follow-up to Rebel Yell (Whiplash Smile) I instantly fell in love with it and played it to death. It didn't do nearly as well commercially as its predecessor but also had programmed drums throughout. That was a big eye-opener for me as a young drummer. Obviously, whoever did the programming on it was also a drummer and it was some very interesting stuff.

It wasn't too many years later that I first heard Godflesh, which also had programmed drums and was absolutely crushing.
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Old 12-23-2014, 04:40 PM
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Janes Addiction - Nothings Shocking. The first album I remember really listening to the drums. Some great non-linear playing by Perkins.

Melvins - Bullhead. Dale Crover is still one of my favorites. I tried to play like him for most of my high school years.

Sleep - Holy Mountain. This is the album that showed me how powerful a rhythm section can be when they play together.

Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger Matt Cameron is a beast. My favorite snare sound on any recording ever.

Pearl Jam - Ten. IMO one of the best drum performances ever captured on tape. Incredibly tasteful drumming. Nothing flashy just perfect for the songs.

That covers about a 5 year period during my formative years of playing.
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Old 12-23-2014, 07:43 PM
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Melvins - Bullhead. Dale Crover is still one of my favorites. I tried to play like him for most of my high school years.

Sleep - Holy Mountain. This is the album that showed me how powerful a rhythm section can be when they play together.

Both of these are completely badass.
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Old 12-23-2014, 08:47 PM
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A lot of albums had an effect on me, but not my drumming. Yes's "Close To The Edge" is a good example. Also it's more the drummer, not any particular album who affected my playing. Unbeknownst to me at the time was my main influence Hal Blaine, who is probably tied with Ringo and the Motown drummers as my #1 influence as a kid...then Danny Seraphine from Chicago influenced me heavily as a pre-teen and then Phil Ehart from Kansas, influenced me heavily as a teenager. Those guys had big effect on my playing.
Chicago was my biggest influence as a young drummer. I wore the grooves off of the Trasit Authority double album. Still get chills when I listen to the early stuff.
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Old 12-24-2014, 05:29 PM
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Piece of Mind - Iron Maiden
Rage for Order - Queensryche
Moving Pictures - Rush

And because I'm not that good, I always loved the hard hitting style of Vinnie Appice and since his sound was more attainable I modeled a lot of my playing after him.

Mob Rules - Sabbath
Holy Diver - Dio

These days anything by Mangini or Portnoy inspres me. Unfortunately they also frustrate the hell out of me because I can't play like that.
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:47 PM
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London Calling - The Clash
Los Angeles - X
Wild Gift - X
Clifford Brown & Max Roach
Workin with the Miles Davis Quintet

Topper Headon's playing with the Clash and DJ Bonebrake's with X have been huge influences for me, as a kid I remember reading interviews with them that mentioned their jazz backgrounds and that always stuck with me and was likely a gateway into my own interest in jazz later on.

There are innumerable jazz records that have had an impact on me but the two mentioned above standout as I've played them so much I've literally worn them out.

Honourable mention must also go to all the Motown/Northern soul records I played along to as a kid, have always loved that stuff, always will.
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:37 PM
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You know, I got so into making sure I didn't just mention my favorite albums, I forgot to mention the #1 impact on my drumming:

The Who - Live at Leeds - Keith Moon. Never mind Keith has been gone 8 or 9 years by this point, it was listening this album as a teen that made we want to devote my life to drums. In particular, it is an incredible study in dynamics and raw power. A study in tension and release, and how much the drums dictate the band.
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The first album that made me WANT to play drums was Crimson Glory - Transcendence. Dana Burnell was just awesome.
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Old 12-28-2014, 02:23 AM
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Chicago- Live at Carnegie Hall and really first 7-8 Albums
Little Feat- Waiting For Columbus & Feats Don't Fail Me Now
Steely Dan- Aja
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Earliest influence was Chicago's Greatest Hits. We covered it while I was in school band - pre my first kit.

Then:
Boston #1
Black Sabbath Heaven and Hell
Foreigner #1
Bad Company Bad Company
Cheap Trick Live at Buddokan
Jackson Browne Running on empty

Pretty much all I played to (vinyl) for the first 2 years after I got my first kit.
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:28 AM
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The Who - Live at Leeds - Keith Moon. A study in tension and release, and how much the drums dictate the band.
^ The old saying: a band's as good as its drummer... Keith Moon played the drums as a leading instrument with such impact on The Who's music.
There is a phrase from Tony Williams, I always kept in mind: "Keith Moon playing is beautiful and totally free."
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:52 AM
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^ The old saying: a band's as good as its drummer... Keith Moon played the drums as a leading instrument with such impact on The Who's music.
There is a phrase from Tony Williams, I always kept in mind: "Keith Moon playing is beautiful and totally free."
Yep, yep. The more I listen to The Who...over 35 years doing so...the more I appreciate and love Moonie's playing. A force of nature...totally "inside" every song.

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Old 12-29-2014, 06:10 AM
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Planet X - Live from OZ
On the Virg - Serious Young Insects
Symphony X - The Odyssey
Nile - Ithyphallic
Dave Weckl Band - Multiplicity


Definitely others, but these are probably the most influential ones I can think of. I had a lot of Dream Theater influence throughout the 2000s but I've always tried to avoid having too much Mike Portnoy in my playing because while I liked the music, I never really enjoyed his use of dynamics or hitting crashes every bar ;P
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Genesis- Duke and Abacab

Asia- Their first album

Moody Blues- Seventh Sojourn
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Tony Williams : Wilderness
Herbie Hancock : New Standard (Don Alias's percussion work)
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Genesis- Duke and Abacab

Asia- Their first album

Moody Blues- Seventh Sojourn
Yep, yep. Recently revisited my Duke vinyl...KILLER DRUMMING.

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Got to think back through the years:

Sweet: Sweet FA - Mick Tucker
Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick - Barriemore Barlow
Jethro Tull: Aqualung - Clive Bunker
Yes: Close to the Edge: Bill Bruford
Gentle Giant: The Power & the Glory - John Weathers
Genesis: Selling England by the Pound - Phil Collins
Refugee: Refugee - Brian Davison
Rush: Permanent Waves - Neil Peart
PFM: Chocolate Kings - Franz di Cioccio
ELP: Tarkus - Carl Palmer
Return to Forever: Romantic Warrior - Lenny White
Deep Purple: Burn - Ian Paice
Dave Brubeck: Take Five - Joe Morello
Steely Dan: Gaucho - Jeff Porcaro
Kansas: Song for America - Phil Ehart
Mahavisnu Orchestra: Birds of Fire - Billy Cobham
Moody Blues: On a Threshold... - Graeme Edge

There is probably a few that slipped my mind.
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Funny how very few peeps read other peep's lists, but yet we all post; Is it a deep seated need to be understood as a musician ?

Who knows. Go figure

- and yet, Im no exception...

mah 'de-flowering' teens:

Don Brewer- Mark, Don & Mel- Grand Funk Railroad,
Ian Paice-Machine Head- Deep Purple,
Billy Cobham- Spectrum,
Mike Clark- Headhunters,
Steve Gadd- Chick Corea- Light as a Feather
Buddy Rich- Big Swing Face

the 'wide eyed' 20's

Mitch Mitchell- Are You Experienced- Hendrix
Lenny White- Romatic Warrior- Return To Forever
Narada Michael Walden- Wired- Jeff Beck
Billy Higgins- Landscape- Art Pepper
Peter Erskine- Heavy Weather-Weather Report


the 'I know what Im looking for' 30's

Tony Williams- Joy of Flying
Elvin Jones- Illumination
Vinnie Colauita- Jing Chi
Steve Smith-Vital Tech tones
Dave Weckl- Masterplan
Will Kennedy- Wildlife- Yellowjackets

the 'been there done that' 40s

Eric Harland-SF JAzz collective
Jack DE Johnette- standards
Keith Carlock-Wayne Krantz

the 'show me sumpin I never hoid' 50s

Chris Dave-Robert Glasper Experiment
Mark Guiliana- Dhafer Youssuf Band
Deantoni Parks- Michelle N'degocello
Dave DiCenso- Hiromi
Ranjit Barot-John McLaughlin 4th Dimension

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Funny how very few peeps read other peep's lists, but yet we all post; Is it a deep seated need to be understood as a musician ?
Nah, it's because everyone tries to seek validation for their opinions, musician or not.
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Pretty much, just Dave Grohl on Songs For The Deaf (one of the best drum efforts of all time, in my opinion, and really *also in my opinion* the only solid QOTSA album, which clearly was because of Dave's drumming and influence) and just the song War Pigs have had the most impact on my style. Really though, I just do what I do in the song based on what's going on with the rest of the band. I don't think I'm anything special but I don't sound like anyone else.

BUT..when I'm just grooving a back beat I tend to do it like Bill Ward. That really just came from War Pigs because I learned it very early in my beginning years and his fills were very simple, which made it easier for me to learn. In hindsight, it really taught me how simple accents can have a dramatic effect on a song and has really has had a lasting impact on my grooving. I tend to throw a little single tom strike on the off beat quite a bit like Ward, and I do triplets in dave grohl style. Otherwise, I really haven't covered enough songs (maybe 30?) over these past 8 years to really absorb anyone's style all that much.

Until I got in a real band this year, most of my playing was just aimless jamming in a traditional rock or hard rock/simple metal style. I had no real direction other than picking up some speed and occasionally hearing a song that I really wanted to play and doing that. I don't even know how to twirl my sticks. That tends to always amuse other drummers I talk to. Now, I learn covers and a lot of work on originals for the band, which really have just come to me without any noticeable influences other than those mentioned.

That was long..sorry.
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The first one that inspired me to play drums:



The one that showed me the next level of possibilities:



The one that showed me the possibilities are endless:

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Rolling Stones-Let it Bleed, Exile on Mainstreet
Cream-Wheels of Fire
Traffic-Low Spark of High heel boys
The Who-Who Next, Quadraphenia
Miles Davis-Kind of Blue
Weather Report-Weather Report
Herbie Hancock-Head Hunters
Spirit-Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus
Led Zeppelin -Album II, II, IV, Houses of the Holy
Little Feat-Dixie Chicken
Police-Synchronicity, Ghost in the Machine
Pink Floyd-Dark Side of Moon
Doobie Brothers-Toulouse Street, Captain and Me
Allman Brothers Band-Live at the Fillmore East, Idlewild South, Allman Brothers Band, Brothers and Sisters, Eat a Peach-Yeah I went crazy.
Rush-2112, Moving Pictures
Dave Mathews-Before these crowded streets, Crash
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