New Drummer - Need of some Good Drummer help

[NewDrum95]

Ok guys. By Friday my full kit will be in. I'm super excited because I've wanted to drum for a long time now. I know quite a bit for being new, anyway, i was looking for some help in one category. Being able to double pedal and hit my drums/cymbals at the same time. Is there any technique or certain way you guys did to teach yourself? I watch videos and try to move my feet like when the do, but when i try to throw in some cymbal hits or something my feet just get messy.

Thanks for any help!

[GRUNTERSDAD]

Find yourself a teacher and practice.

[Anthony Amodeo]

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD

Find yourself a teacher and practice.

do not look any further than this post right here ^

[tamadrm]

+1...Agreed.There is no one technique or shortcut that will get you to where you want to be.Dispite what most people think,drums are NOT an easy instrument to play well,so the proper instruction and lots of practice is the only way to get good.There are guys who are self taught,but thats a crap shoot,and leaves you open to developing bad habits,and improper technique.

Find a teacher,and practice.There is no shortcut.

Steve B

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD

Find yourself a teacher and practice.

Originally Posted by tamadrm

+1...Agreed.There is no one technique or shortcut that will get you to where you want to be.

Isn't that a little archaic?

I mean, sounds waaaay to much like hard work to me. I'm pretty sure that in the modern age, all the skills you require can be readily won on a reality TV program.

Or, you could just find a good teacher.....learn properly from the outset.....and put in the hours. (I am aware it is considered an old fashioned approach though). :-)

[tamadrm]

Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold

Isn't that a little archaic?

I mean, sounds waaaay to much like hard work to me. I'm pretty sure that in the modern age, all the skills you require can be readily won on a reality TV program.

Or, you could just find a good teacher.....learn properly from the outset.....and put in the hours. (I am aware it is considered an old fashioned approach though). :-)

True that,and whats next?Listening to Coltrane,Miles Davis,maybe even the Beatles,Stones..Charlie and Ringo?What's this world coming to?

There must be a way to "jack" into the information electronicly,a la Neo in "The Matrix"(I know kung fu....).:):):)Cheers mate.

Steve B

[Anthony Amodeo]

Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold

Isn't that a little archaic?

I mean, sounds waaaay to much like hard work to me. I'm pretty sure that in the modern age, all the skills you require can be readily won on a reality TV program.

Or, you could just find a good teacher.....learn properly from the outset.....and put in the hours. (I am aware it is considered an old fashioned approach though). :-)

...oh you old codger ......you know skill comes from youtube these days

if you can't do an August Burns Red cover with 3 different camera angles ....one on only the feet ofcourse....there is no way you can play drums

[GRUNTERSDAD]

It sounds to me like you really need to learn to play with one foot first and then when you can play with three limbs add the fourth. Learn to carry a beat first then worry about being a wizard. You say you are a new drummer and it seems you are trying to put the cart in front of the horse.

[Anthony Amodeo]

Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD

It sounds to me like you really need to learn to play with one foot first and then when you can play with three limbs add the fourth. Learn to carry a beat first then worry about being a wizard. You say you are a new drummer and it seems you are trying to put the cart in front of the horse.

what I think has happened in recent years Mr. Mayor is with the rise of things like YouTube lots of people want instant gratification in things like a craft that takes years because they get this instant gratification everywhere else with everything being fingertip accessible....

but like my grandfather used to tell me

you try to skip a step ...you trip
you try to jump to the top of the staircase....you bust your ass
....take each step calmly one at a time ....and you can see what's upstairs

[GRUNTERSDAD]

I could not agree more. I played drums from 1963 to 1968. Then for one year in 1975. Then a break for 32 years and 5 years ago I started again. I am much better now than ever. One foot in front of the other and one step at a time. where's the fire???

[Bo Eder]

You did set aside money for lessons, right? Be prepared to spend $60 an hour, maybe twice a month. Practice about four hours a day. You'll be stylin' in 20 years ;)

[larryace]

Hey man welcome to the forum. Never ever say you know a lot. With all due respect, judging from the question you asked, it's best to take the stance that you don't know jack rather than saying you know quite a bit. You are more likeable that way, just a tip. Being open minded and humble will serve you well.

[ahector]

Originally Posted by NewDrum95

Ok guys. By Friday my full kit will be in. I'm super excited because I've wanted to drum for a long time now. I know quite a bit for being new, anyway, i was looking for some help in one category. Being able to double pedal and hit my drums/cymbals at the same time. Is there any technique or certain way you guys did to teach yourself? I watch videos and try to move my feet like when the do, but when i try to throw in some cymbal hits or something my feet just get messy.

Thanks for any help!

as others have said, get a teacher. it will help a ton. practice a lot!

whenever you're looking to coordinate multiple limbs, it comes down to this:

1. you need to be able to do whatever each individual limb does, by itself, first.
2. you need to be able to do whatever any two limbs do together next
3. you need to be able to do whatever any three limbs do together next
4. then you can work on all four together!
5. that's not even necessarily the end of it. you can also work on your "fifth limb", or being able to count/internalize a click while doing something with all four limbs

if you can't do something well, try to do it slower.

you've just got to figure out how to break it down into individual components. divide and conquer. and you need to be patient. start SLOW.

[keep it simple]

Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

3 different camera angles ....one on only the feet ofcourse....there is no way you can play drums

i only got one cameras do that means i can only play 1/3 as dudes with three camera? does i need camera on simbols too so i no when i hit them with petal camera?

[keep it simple]

Originally Posted by NewDrum95

By Friday my full kit will be in. I'm super excited because I've wanted to drum for a long time now.

Sorry about my post below. I'm just joining in on the joke.

It's good to be excited about getting your new kit. That excitement is what carries you through the boring stuff. Good advice here from the other guys. Taking a steady approach through targeted lessons is such a cool investment, & one that I wished I'd taken seriously many moons ago. I'd hate for you to end up as limited as I am. That's more frustrating than impatience from the start.

Good luck :)

[tamadrm]

Well I guess the OP didn't get the answer he wanted so he's gone.Its been three days,and he hasn't posted a response.Ahhhh to be 17 again.

Steve B

[Otto]

Learn to read music.

Get and use a metronome.

Practice rudiments with hands and feet...and mix between the two.

Record what you play and listen back to yourself at a slower speed...pick apart your flaws and correct them.

..that should keep you busy for a while.

When you are bored, have a look at the wide variety of educational materials out on the market.

Listen to music you like and try to reproduce it with flawless accuracy.

Find people to play music with and do so as frequently as you can with the widest number of musicians that you can.

Spice with teacher input as needed(if needed).

[Mainebeats]

Originally Posted by Gvdadrummasum

what I think has happened in recent years Mr. Mayor is with the rise of things like YouTube lots of people want instant gratification in things like a craft that takes years because they get this instant gratification everywhere else with everything being fingertip accessible....

but like my grandfather used to tell me

you try to skip a step ...you trip
you try to jump to the top of the staircase....you bust your ass
....take each step calmly one at a time ....and you can see what's upstairs

So how is it being Yoda's grandson? Respect.

[Spreggy]

Hey NewDrum welcome to the forum, and the ultracool inner circle known as the drummers.
Now, two huuuuuge tips that rise above all others to shorten your learning curve.

1. Get a teacher. Really, seriously.
2. To learn anything, any new pattern of hands and feet, play is as slow as it takes to play it right. Can be ultra dog slow. Play it right at the slow tempo a whole bunch of times. You'll be amazed at how soon you get faster at it.

[MaryO]

I'm curious...you say you know quite a bit for a beginner yet you are starting with double pedals and asking about how to learn limb independence. Seems to me you "think" you know quite a bit but need to back up and see if what you think you know and what you really know are actually compatible.

I'm not trying to be mean, really, but as a relative beginner myself I came to this instrument with a head full of misconceptions of what I thought it was about. As the others have said, get a teacher, start out with a practice pad and your rudiments and practice, practice, practice. It may not be as exciting as playing the double bass and working on kit all the time but, believe me, it will pay off and you will be surprised to learn what you didn't know you didn't know :) In the long run, you will be glad you started slow and learned correct the first time.

Good luck and have fun!

[Midnite Zephyr]

These guys got it all wrong. Experience is way too overrated. Here's the best advice.....just jump right into the deep end and learn to swim.

No. Don't listen to me. Welcome to the world of drumming.

I taught myself drums. Never really had a teacher because I'm such a tightwad. The fact is it's taken me 30 years to learn what many of these guy already knew after 10 or 20 years. They know all the rudiment, etc. I don't know sh*t. I know how to play a drum set and I can play it good enough to jam with some really talented musicians.

But if I want to learn double bass, I think I would go to a teacher. I'm pretty good with a single pedal, but this double thing would require a teacher for me at least. There are a few things I could use a teacher for. I'm just broke all the time and those luxuries elude me.