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Old 08-04-2006, 12:06 PM
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Kenneth,
thanks for making the Wikipedia page. (I corrected a couple of minor things in my equipment list)

Hi Ege,
I think the snare head question has been answered already. As for bass drum head - I use a Remo Powerstroke 3 clear at the moment. I suppose a medium tuning - and a large heavy pillow. This is only good if it's going to be mic'd up - otherwise it sounds pretty dead.

Hi Midnite Mike,
Thanks for spreading the word about PT. We appreciate it.

Foog,
I just listened to that fill. It's a favorite sticking of mine. 5 notes played in triplet form. RLRRL. In fact I go through this sticking/triplet idea in my DVD at some point.

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Old 08-04-2006, 01:04 PM
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Hey Gavin ,
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:34 PM
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Hello Gavin! I'd like to say that I think you are one the best contemporary drummers in the world, and certainly one of the most creative! I watched the "Cymbal Song" video here on DW,
and was absolutely amazed. I look forward to hearing more of your work!
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Old 08-04-2006, 07:13 PM
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Hi Drifter,
thanks for the kind words. There's also a matching "Drum Song" - written along the same idea as the cymbal song...and then finally the drum and cymbal song play together and interact rhythmically - it's hard to explain but it's all on the DVD.

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Old 08-04-2006, 11:40 PM
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Hey Gavin,

If you have any other important biographical information to add to the page let me know and I'll work on it. Also, I couldn't get a working picture of Rhythmic Illusions on the page as you could see. It was an issue with Wikipedia I believe. If you'd like to see something else on there, feel free to give suggestions.

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Old 08-05-2006, 07:11 AM
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Hey Gavin,
Big fan of PT, really love your playing style, very unique, has that 'efficient' yet 'sensitive' sound to me. I have a question or two for you... I'm sure you stretch out before you practice, so my first question is Do you have a regular stretch routine, or can it vary? And what stretches do you commonly use? ...and the second one is When you warm-up, do you have a near-regular routine, or can it depend on other factors?

Thanks a lot for your time!
(love Deadwing!!)

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Old 08-06-2006, 12:06 AM
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Hi Cardan,
thanks for the post. I've only recently (in the last 2 years) warmed up before a show. It came about because of Deadwing. When we used to open the show with the song Deadwing - my arms (especially my right hand) would hurt. I think it's because I was playing 4 in a bar open hi hat for something like 5 minutes at around 160bpm without stopping. That's nothing particularly hard - but when it's the opening number you tend to play too hard because of the adrenaline. Added to all that the fact that I didn't used to warm up - it would all add up to some bad pain.
So I stretch my arms up so that my elbows are at the top of my head and my arms are going down my back. That really helps stretch the long muscles that run from the arm pit down to the elbow. Also I play double and single stroke rolls on a pad for about 20 minutes before the show.
We dropped playing Deadwing as an opener - but I've carried on with the stretching and pad exercises anyway - and I think it helps.

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Old 08-06-2006, 02:50 AM
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Futile is essentially a B side from the In Absentia sessions. It was released on the European version of In Absentia and also the Futile EP featuring other unreleased tracks from In Absentia. Also, the DVD Audio version of In Absentia contains the surround mix of Futile.

The Futile EP is available for download from Porcupine Tree's online store.

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Old 08-06-2006, 06:04 AM
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Alright, just wanted to say thanks a lot for responding so fast, Gavin.
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Old 08-06-2006, 09:40 PM
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Hey Gavin,
I just recently got my hands on a copy of "Mother and Child Divided." I'm curious as to where the opening beat derived from. I've counted it in 8 with the hi-hat playing 8th notes, but the underlying beat on the snare and bass is something i cant get my head around. Please help.
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Old 08-07-2006, 12:29 PM
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Hi Mike,
The funny thing is that I did a lesson about that song on a "Rhythm UK" cover mount CD about 3 months ago. Maybe someone here has it? Basically its a 2 bar pattern made up of (32 - 16th notes) but grouped as 3 x 10/16 and 2/16 at the end.

Does that help?

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Old 08-08-2006, 06:54 AM
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Thanks Gavin,

Yah that did help, i figured it was something like that. I also have a question about "Orchidia" Specifically at 2:28 you throw down an awsome beat. The Hi-Hat is following the guitar line and the snare is dropping on the 3, but i cant seem to hear the bass drum triplets, and were they fall. If you could shed some light that would be great. Also i tried sequencing the 8 against 9 with different combinations between the snare, hi-hat, and bass. Lets just say that its MESSED UP!!! :-) I'm going to try a bunch of other combinations, i'll let you know how they turn out. Talk to yo soon.

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Old 08-08-2006, 05:03 PM
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Futile is essentially a B side from the In Absentia sessions. It was released on the European version of In Absentia and also the Futile EP featuring other unreleased tracks from In Absentia. Also, the DVD Audio version of In Absentia contains the surround mix of Futile.

The Futile EP is available for download from Porcupine Tree's online store.

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Old 08-08-2006, 05:17 PM
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Hi Mike,
I don't have "Orchidia" with me on my powerbook - but I think I know what you're talking about. I think that beat may be featured in an article I did with Brad from "The Drum Pad" shop in Chicago. Hopefully it will be in DRUM! magazine quite soon. It's very hard to describe without the help of notation.

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Old 08-08-2006, 05:53 PM
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Congrads!

Congratulations to getting signed to Roadrunner Records! I knew it was only a matter of time and i cant wait for the next album. Keep up the good work.

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Old 08-09-2006, 03:57 AM
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Congrats Gavin and PT! For more details go here:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/n...dex.aspx#12711

and here: http://www.porcupinetree.com/news.cfm
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:36 PM
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The Drum Festival in Montreal in November should be fun. I'm driving 5 hours north to check it out. I'm interested to know if your introducing some concepts from your new DVD. Also the PT songs that you are performing, are they new songs or old favorites. Hope everything is great on your end. Take care and God bless.

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Old 08-19-2006, 10:56 AM
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Hi Mike,
thanks in advance for driving 5 hours to see the show!
I don't know exactly which PT songs I might do - possibly Sound Of Muzak, Mother & Child, Futile maybe some new stuff too.
If I get chance to show some new concepts from the DVD I will.

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Old 08-20-2006, 06:11 AM
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Hi Gavin!

You've been my favorite drummer for some time now and I signed up basically to ask you what may seem like an elementary level question, haha.

I've been drumming almost all my life and, more than anything, I enjoy incoporating subtleties (which you refer to as rythmic illusions), BUT occasionally I run into the problem of losing time. Doesn't happen often and I can usually get right back on track, but it still shakes me up every time.

Is there some kind of trick you use to keep time in the back of your head when playing? I know you're probably thinking "just count", but it's really hard to focus on that at this level.

Do you have any tips on that end?
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Old 08-20-2006, 06:35 AM
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Hey Gavin,
I have a question about Copyright. I noticed your DVD has Copyright on it and also the PT albums of course. I was just wondering if you yourself play a role in aquiring the copyright paper work and do the necessary steps to complete the process, or is all that taken care of by your publisher. If you could point me in the right direction that would help, i am scoring a short film for my friend and i want to cover my end so i dont get burned down the road. Thanks

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Old 08-20-2006, 04:59 PM
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Hi ktriton,
I think to play a "rhythmic Illusion" you need to feel confident that you know exactly where you are at all times. Be careful not to "throw" yourself when you're in the process.
Obviously displacement gives the impression of a new downbeat and modulation gives the impression of a new tempo...but there are exactly that - just impressions - don't hear the new downbeat or new tempo yourself - otherwise you're screwed.

Hi Mike
sorry but I don't get involved in the process of registering for copyright - I really don't know too much about it.

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Old 08-21-2006, 04:37 AM
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Hi ktriton,
I think to play a "rhythmic Illusion" you need to feel confident that you know exactly where you are at all times. Be careful not to "throw" yourself when you're in the process.
Obviously displacement gives the impression of a new downbeat and modulation gives the impression of a new tempo...but there are exactly that - just impressions - don't hear the new downbeat or new tempo yourself - otherwise you're screwed.

cheers
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Ahh, interesting. I've always tried to feel exactly what I'm doing against what I'm playing over. Thanks for the tip! It's kind of like separating your mind from your drummer sense, haha :)

Thanks again, and keep on keepin' on!

Also, for Mike: you have to contact the publisher/label who owns the rights to that particular song or CD.

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Old 08-21-2006, 10:35 PM
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Hi Gavin,

Love your playing. I saw you and PT live last year and loved every seocnd of it. I thought you were great before that, but my two friends who usually never paid attention to drummers came out saying you were awesome too, heh.

Real quick question. This is probably an obvious one, but in the track So Called Friend, from about 3:24 to 3:33-ish, you go nuts playing sixteenths on various cymbals. They sound like very very tiny splashes, or cymbal bells, I'm really not sure. I just want to know what those are, it's bothered me since I first heard the song (and I also want to know because it's such a cool sounding part).

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Old 08-22-2006, 10:36 AM
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Hi jmontroy,
thanks for the message. Questions about those little cymbals come up a lot. They are 5 tiny bell cymbals that I made myself by cutting down old broken crash cymbals to somewhere in the range of 7" - 4.5". The pattern in "So Called Friend" is a kind of 16ths pattern (like the classic Gadd hi hat to snare pattern) but split up between the right hand on the bell of the ride cymbal - and the left hand playing the small bells and snare drum....but in 7/4. Does that make sense?

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Old 08-22-2006, 05:00 PM
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Yep, that makes sense now. Thanks!
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Hey thanks for the advice on keeping time during an illusion, Mr. Harrison! It's really opening up a lot of possibilities!

I'll definitely be checking out your DVDs :)

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Old 08-25-2006, 10:10 PM
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Check out this Review guys!!

http://www.drummersdigest.com/en/ind...=164&Itemid=32

Congrats Gavin!! Well Done!!
And also congrats on the montreal drumfest gig!
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:59 PM
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Thanks cvighals, yes it's a very kind review!!!

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Old 08-27-2006, 06:21 PM
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Hi Gavin!

Great setlist on the PT dvd! Looking forward to seeing it!

Right now im just wondering about a very cool fill that you do in the song "Wedding Nails"
It is the fill at 01:15, which by the way is a really cool fill!

Also the fill at 00:30 in shesmovedon is hard to figure out!

Keep on rocking!!
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:49 PM
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Hi cvighals,
I just listened to "Wedding Nails" and I couldn't figure it out either.
However the "Shesmovedon" fill is transcribed by my buddy Brad Schlueter from a DRUM! magazine article...

http://www.drummagazine.com/html/mod...ticle&sid=1170

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I just listened to "Wedding Nails" and I couldn't figure it out either.
Hi!

Since we're in the topic of dissecting "Wedding Nails"...

Could you describe what's going on in the fill at 4:14? I can't quite wrap my brain around what I'm hearing, except for registering the fact that it gives me goosebumps ;)

Love that song... the way you and Colin drive it while the guitars "do their thing"... (that song is, IMO, a prime example of "less is more" on the bass)

Thanks in advance,

SoTuA!
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:17 AM
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YES! Wedding Nails is an awsome song, its one of the reasons why PT stood out for me.

I have a few questions about your live monitor mix. 1) what type of monitor system do you use? 2) what part of your kit and what part of the bass, guitar, keyboards, vocals do you like to have in them?

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Hi sotua,
that fill at 4.14 is basically groups of 3/16ths. First of the group is the snare, the second of the group is 2/32 on the bass drum, and the third of the group is a bass drum and crash cymbal together. Sounds like I get through about 5 of these groupings in that bar before resolving it off. It looks much easier when you see it written down.

Hi Mike,
we bought, about a year ago, a Yamaha 02R96 digital desk that we use as our monitor board.
It means that all 5 of us on stage can have completely independent mixes from each other. We all wear "in ear" headphones (+ Steve has floor monitors and I have a sub speaker behind me just for the bass drum). I couldn't get enough low end pump through my "in ears". It also means (because the board has total recall) it's the same every night. In fact we don't even have a monitor man. We had so many bad nights on stage with a crappy sound, we decided this was the way to go....and we absolutely love it.
I also have a little sub mixer in my rack next to me where I can control the over volume of what I getting plus I have one extra channel that only has the very high frequencies of the bass drum (an extremely clicky sound) so that I can feed that into my headphones on the songs that require some double bass drum action. As you might imagine - with headphones in my ears - and only a sub speaker behind me - there's no way I could hear all the definition from the attack of the bass drum. This way I can have as much as I want without having all that clicky kick coming through my sub speaker and sounding very nasty on stage...the audience would hear it to.

Apart from all that - I listen to a clear mix of everyone in the band + a bit of reverb on the snare drum.

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that fill at 4.14 is basically groups of 3/16ths. First of the group is the snare, the second of the group is 2/32 on the bass drum, and the third of the group is a bass drum and crash cymbal together. Sounds like I get through about 5 of these groupings in that bar before resolving it off. It looks much easier when you see it written down.
Thank you very much for your explanation - I love that fill, it really releases the tension of the comeback with a big bang :)
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:39 AM
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Ahhh, yes, that Yamaha is a nice mixer, i've used one at a trade show down in NYC a few times. Its interesting that you have a seperate channel for the high end click, most drummers dont want to hear that at all. I'm guessing you use it to see if your being consistent with your double Bass. Being a sound engineer for a number of years i totally understand why you dont have a monitor man. That job is so difficult to perform, you really need to be quite intuitive when it comes to dealing with the band members, get in their head and find out what they need from you. Most of the time it doesnt work anyway and the band ends up pissed at you by the end of the night. Its alot easier mixing Front of House. The feedback creeps up slowly, unlike on stage where it can take your head off if your not careful. I like the fact that you guys take matters into your own hands and your knowledgable and experienced enough to know what you need, otherwise, like you said, you get crappy sound.
I'm also interested in the bands creative process, specifically when you sit down to write for an album. Do you all get in the same room and jam? Do you work independently with the other members? Or do you all throw it into a large pile and then sift through it?
Take care and God bless.

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Old 08-31-2006, 08:09 PM
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Hi Mike,
the other thing about our monitor board is that we keep it on stage behind Steve's amp in the middle/back of the stage. That we could (but very rarely do) make tiny adjustments between songs. We're the kind of band that just likes a static mix...we really don't want someone fiddling around with it during the show.

"Do you all get in the same room and jam? Do you work independently with the other members? Or do you all throw it into a large pile and then sift through it?"

Actually we do all three. Steve is the real "song smith" amongst us - so usually ideas get stitched together by him, but we all throw plenty of ideas into the pot.

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Old 09-01-2006, 03:09 AM
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It makes sense to keep it on stage. I totally understand what you mean when you say you like a static mix. I've had instances when i tell the sound guy in sound check "thats perfect, dont change a thing" and then in the middle of the set, i hear it, he just twisted a knob. Its quite frustrating.
I wanted to mention that the last riff in wedding nails is so HEAVY!!! I love it! It fits perfectly cuz your playing in A minor most of the song and then you drop to the fifth (E) to finish the song out. Very effective. The drumbeat i especially admire for its simplistic displacement of the snare followed immediatly by the bass drum in the first half of the measure. More of that please on the next album.
I was wondering for the Montreal Drum festival, will you have time for signings and meeting with your fans. If so, i would really appreciate that. I also appreciate you taking the time to let me pick your brain. As always, take care and remeber to smile, God loves you.

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Old 09-03-2006, 07:09 AM
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So i was noticing on your DVD, that on a few of your songs you use a Sonor double pedal and on others you are using what i can tell to be an Axis double pedal. Any particular reason for this?

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Old 09-03-2006, 09:50 PM
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Hi Mike,
I love both the Sonor and the Axis double pedals and I use both at home. I just found that I could play much louder on the Axis - so I use those live.

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Old 09-04-2006, 07:47 AM
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Gavin decided to upload to more Videosamples from the NEW DVD "Rhythmic Horizons"

Here they are PLASSON and DRUM SONG

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