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Old 05-06-2012, 05:43 PM
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I was wondering how different a 16" and 18" china sounds?

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Old 05-06-2012, 06:05 PM
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Are you located near any guitar centers? They have the wuhan chinas under a proprietary name "Agazarian" (spelling?). They are the wuhans with just a different stamp. And my local store always has a 16 and 18 in stock. So you could go in and hit them and listen.

I think the 18 sounds more like a china and prefer that one to the 16, but that is personal taste. I haven't found the wuhans to break that much easier. I've been horrible on cymbals for years and so far the wuhan has lasted me the past year.

You really should try to hear the cymbal. If you could take your current one in, you can set it up next to the wuhan on a kit at the store and play both to hear the difference.

I like them though. Great price for a very good sounding cymbal. There are definitely people that think those chinas sound as good as any. And man are they inexpensive.

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Old 05-06-2012, 09:15 PM
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In my opinion , if this is going to be your only china, get at least the 16", preferably an 18".

A 14" is more a specialty sound; more of an over-sized splash effect.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:35 PM
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I have a wuhan 16 inch and it is amazing. Just a nice trashy sound. And VERY cheap
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:36 AM
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The bigger the Wuhan, the better. Go 18" minimum. I play a 19", but wouldn't hesitate using a 20" or 22".

Personal opinion and experience, Wuhan last longer than any Zildjian China I've ever owned. The 19" K China was the best cymbal I've probably ever owned, but it developed a nasty crack. The 19" Wuhan keeps kicking.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:53 AM
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Wuhans are usually thin, so they can break if you hit them too hard. But they are usually so loud and trashy that you don't have to. I have a 16" and 18" Stagg Traditional (which is a Wuhan in sheeps clothing). The 16 is good for fast accents, and the 18 has a nice swell. My next target is a 22", which unfortunately is not carried by the stores in my country.

When you're ready to choose, have the store bring out all the ones they have and choose the one you want. Wuhans (like most b20 cymbals) are notorious for inconsistency. There are no "bad" ones though, just those you like and those you dont.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:43 AM
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I use a 14 and 22 wuhan chinas, chalk and cheese but love them both!
14 is very fast and bright, like breaking glass, great for accents and surprisingly loud for a small affect cym.
My 22" is a beast of a china, dark and complex great for big comedowns and wash riding and just fits my hardcase! Takes a stern beating too, that one and have gigged with them both for a year or so with no issues.
Had a 16" a while ago but not as suitable for my ear and style as the two above. For what its worth they are as good as any high end china on the market and a fraction of the cost (only my opinion).
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:19 AM
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if you take your old china to guitar center they will buy it from you and also give you 10% off
http://gc.guitarcenter.com/tradeup/index-10.cfm
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:24 AM
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would i be silly to buy it off amazon without inspecting it first? i dont have a guitarcenter or samash nearby where i can pick one
Because of the way they made, there are HUGE variations between each Wuhan china cymbal.

If you had 10 of the same sized all lined up, all 10 would sound different. I highly recommend NOT buying on one and testing them out in person.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:52 AM
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When i bought my 14" we had 4 of them on stands they were all completely different.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:58 AM
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As already suggested it would be a very wise move to go listen in the flesh because of the huge difference in sound.
I made the mistake of not hearing my 16" before i bought it off E-bay.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:20 AM
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The off center hole is not unusual. No problem.

The "knife wounds" are not unheard of. If it affects your confidence in it, ask for a replacement. But if the sound is irresistable, keep and enjoy it. I kept my shallow wounded 16" Stagg Traditional because it sounded perfect. I figured if it breaks, its so ridiculously cheap I can just get another one.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:05 AM
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I think Wuhan chinas sound pretty sweet. Well not sweet in that way, but I like them. They are not sweet at all. They are trashy, quick, great china sound in my opinion.

As to their durability, I can see how they might break relatively easily. They seem kinda thin and malleable. But for the price... what have got to lose??

I'll stand by my 18" Wuhan China. At least until I can afford to upgrade to Paiste :P

But that's only for my OCD. I love the Wuhan.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:18 AM
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what do you guys think about this china? i think it sounds between trash and swell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR9f4p8f7JE


bad, good? better or worse than wuhan?
I prefer the wuhan honestly. But I am more into the trash sound. It's just got a trashy aggressive kang to it.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:44 PM
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Those small chinas just seem so glassy to me. I like a deeper tone but it all comes down to personal preference. I have a 19" Sabian prototype cymbal which is very close to the paragon line, which is a favorite among a bunch of users here.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:09 PM
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i mean the 16" is more expensive than the 14" for a reason right?
Dude - have you not noticed that in all cases - bigger cymbals within the same range as smaller ones are more expensive. More bronze, more work to make, more shipping costs (etc...). It's more expensive because it's a bigger cymbal.

Also - be careful banging your cymbals with rubber mallets to alter them with some considered experience. You can dramatically alter the sound of a cymbal by changing its shape in any way.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:55 PM
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im actually liking the more musical sound of the zbt. why do people hate on the zbt china so much? to me it sounds similiar to the zildjian a or k "high" china.
Is this based on youtube clips, or actual personal experience?
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Old 05-26-2012, 03:55 AM
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scratch that. anyone know if the wuhan crashes/hi-hats/ride are better than the zbtz?

i heard my friends B8 ride yesterday, and although it looked like a much older model, my zbt ride sounds SO much nicer than it.

im wondering if the wuhan cymbals sound nice. thinking about trading in my zbts for them. wish i knew they had a "traditional" 3 pack before i bought my cymbals
I haven't heard the wuhan cymbals besides the china. But I've heard my bud's old zbt's. They were dreadful.. more so than the Sabian B8's I started out with in my opinion. I've heard good thing's about the wuhan's sound, but not to their durability.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:50 AM
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just the chinas, or also the crashes/ride/hats?
Oh. Well I love my Wuhan china it's just that I've heard negative things about their durability. Mine's still going strong though! In regards to their crashes, hi hats and ride I have no idea.
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