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Old 04-17-2012, 08:24 PM
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Default Evans G14 over G14

Got two 16" clear G14's for a test run as batter and reso on my Starclassic Bubs 16x16 floor tom.

The thicker head, when tuning up, gets to a sustaining note quicker than a thinner head (like the video states on drummer connection) for what that's worth.

Compared to a G1: The film is no hazier (seemingly not at all?). It has just as much attack (I did not notice any volume increase -- unless their marketing means you can simply hit it harder because it's 14 mil? The sustain/note after the attack simply has less brightness to it than a G1. You can hear this w/ hearing protection/isolation headphones on, as well as the naked ear of course. I guess you could say, the G14(clear) has hit male puberty compared to a G1 (clear).

Do NOT fear using this as a reso (I'm tuned to the same note as the batter). It is a single ply after all, and responds very much to what the batter is doing. This may have been my initial concern, but seems unfounded.

I keep a small piece of moon gel on my G1 over G1 combo(just to warm things up slightly). W/ the G14's on floor, it is not needed at all - I would argue counter productive even? I'm guessing a coated G14 batter would record beautifully.

Thats my initial take. Bottom line, the change in sound was not as radical as I may have guessed(?), But, yes, a change. The G14 basically does just what Evans says it does, as the physics would suggest. The resonance has a deeper tone to it. I'll be ordering another pair for my 14 x14 floor tom.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Evans G14 over G14

Good to know. I have the G Plus on the tops and bottoms of all my toms and they sound great. I will definitely be trying the G14's on my 16". Do you see it hindering the performance on my 8"?
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: Evans G14 over G14

Makes me wonder if we really want the same tone top and bottom, if we shouldn't use the same heads top and bottom on all drums except the snare. Someone with the money to experiement let me know. Or maybe Evans Specialist can send me a set for my resos and I will test them.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:01 PM
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Good to know. I have the G Plus on the tops and bottoms of all my toms and they sound great. I will definitely be trying the G14's on my 16". Do you see it hindering the performance on my 8"?
Fuz, my inspiration for the G14 as a reso was all the glowing reviews/trend of the Gplus being used in the "wild" as a reso. I bet that combo sounds great.

Yeah, I wouldn't go 14mil on the 8" unless it was a strictly durability move...?

Im still thinking of going Gplus over Gplus on my 10" and 12" and of course the G14's on the floors...? For sure the 10" on a Gplus, I guess the 12" is the one up for the debate? G14's or Gpluses...hmmmm?
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:05 PM
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Makes me wonder if we really want the same tone top and bottom, if we shouldn't use the same heads top and bottom on all drums except the snare. Someone with the money to experiement let me know. Or maybe Evans Specialist can send me a set for my resos and I will test them.
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Yeah, for me, the same heads batter and reso just removes the variables, so to speak. Makes everything "jive" together -- a smoothness, if you will, as they literally work in concert w/ each other(hard to get sour sounds). Sure makes tuning easier to boot. I've even used EQ4 on bass batter and reso -- same deal.

Yep, the snare drum is unto itself... in tuning and reso heads!
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Evans G14 over G14

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Good to know. I have the G Plus on the tops and bottoms of all my toms and they sound great. I will definitely be trying the G14's on my 16". Do you see it hindering the performance on my 8"?
I've used a 14 mil on an 8" tom before and I thought it sounded terribly clunky and not pleasant at all. I really think smaller drums respond more naturally with thinner heads. I saw Evans suggesting on Facebook mixing G1, G Plus, and G14 on toms of increasing size and I think that's a great idea.

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Makes me wonder if we really want the same tone top and bottom, if we shouldn't use the same heads top and bottom on all drums except the snare. Someone with the money to experiement let me know. Or maybe Evans Specialist can send me a set for my resos and I will test them.
I think matching the exact same head top and bottom sounds great. It really maximizes the overall tone you get from a particular head/drum combo. I've run coated G1 top and bottom in the past and I'm currently using Modern Vintage top and bottom and they sound incredible.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Evans G14 over G14

I like the graduated idea, use thinner heads (10mil)for 8-12" toms then go Gplus
13" to 16" then..the 18" floor tom would get the g14 top and bottom.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Evans G14 over G14

I can tell you that G14's on a 16" is not overkill(at all), and neither will it be on 14" floor tom. On the rack toms going from G1 over a G1 to Gplus over a Gplus is a mere 4mils in gained thickness. One can argue this would be a subtle change to the ear.

I'm also betting the Gplus/Gplus suits a 10" and 12" tom very well and a more pleasant sound (kind of the point).
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