DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Drummers

Drummers Topic Name = Drummer's Name. Use this forum to discuss the drummers profiled on DrummerWorld

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #441  
Old 03-27-2012, 07:07 PM
Muckster's Avatar
Muckster Muckster is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: I'm right behind you.
Posts: 1,836
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum View Post
Every since Armand passed away in 2002, and Lemmy Demuzio stepped down, endorsers have been leaving, no longer feeling the same loyalty without the key people in place.

But given Vinnie did stick around for another 10 years, it does make one wonder what the final straw was.
I heard that Lenny was run out of Zildjian by Craigie. This upset Neil Peart and when Bob Zildjian took in Lenny at Sabian, Neil followed.
__________________
Max Roach did it, Elvin Jones did it, but Roy Haynes didit and didit and didit.
Reply With Quote
  #442  
Old 03-27-2012, 07:12 PM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,877
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muckster View Post
I heard that Lenny was run out of Zildjian by Craigie. This upset Neil Peart and when Bob Zildjian took in Lenny at Sabian, Neil followed.
As did Dave Weckl and many others.

Other big names followed Lenny out the door, but whatever reason went to Paiste instead of Sabian.
Reply With Quote
  #443  
Old 03-27-2012, 07:24 PM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

So glad I don't have to care about those politics. I can still choose with my ears and not my connections/loyalties/emotions.
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.
Reply With Quote
  #444  
Old 03-28-2012, 01:44 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by drumhedd View Post
Since when did he move to Ludwig?
He hasn't......at least not officially. Merely speculation.

But it has been touted on the same forum that spilled the move to Paiste, a couple of weeks before the fact.
He was apparently sighted at the Ludwig after party at NAMM (just checking out the new stands according to our illustrious moderator!?!?!?)
And the coy involvement of both Bermuda and Pat Petrillo (both Ludwig artists) on another 'Vinnie to Ludwig' related thread didn't go unnoticed either.
Reply With Quote
  #445  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:14 AM
drumhedd's Avatar
drumhedd drumhedd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 298
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
He hasn't......at least not officially. Merely speculation.

But it has been touted on the same forum that spilled the move to Paiste, a couple of weeks before the fact.
He was apparently sighted at the Ludwig after party at NAMM (just checking out the new stands according to our illustrious moderator!?!?!?)
And the coy involvement of both Bermuda and Pat Petrillo (both Ludwig artists) on another 'Vinnie to Ludwig' related thread didn't go unnoticed either.
Aaaah... well, this is interesting... Paiste and Ludwig ARE the ultimate combination after all :D

Maybe Ludwig will start offering black hardware....
Reply With Quote
  #446  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:21 AM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,877
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
So glad I don't have to care about those politics. I can still choose with my ears and not my connections/loyalties/emotions.
I don't know. I might trade some politics for a set of free cymbals.
Reply With Quote
  #447  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:34 AM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum View Post
I don't know. I might trade some politics for a set of free cymbals.
But would you if the free ones weren't your favorite cymbals in terms of sound?

I dunno, it's possible to like both Zildjian and Sabian equally, but they make different sounding cymbals so it doesn't seem likely that Weckl, Peart, et al all liked Sabian as much as Zildjian, or better. And if they did, why didn't they move before any dust ups? They were, by various accounts, following "their guy" and not happy with who was left standing at Zildjian - but it didn't seem to have anything to do with the actual cymbals, which were presumably their favorites up to that point.

For the record, I think Sabian has a waaaaay better business model and spirit of innovation than Zildjian, but for whatever reason, I still like the way the Zildjian bronze feels under my stick and the sound character that hits my ears better than Sabian.

I can't imagine that anyone at Zildjian could piss me off enough to not play them anymore. Or, maybe I can imagine it, but I'm glad that isn't happening because I don't know anyone who works there and I like my Zildjians.

And lastly, I'd play Meinl before Sabian. Hell, I might even take them over Zildjian if I get up enough dough!

Now that I think about it, maybe that's all Vinnie was thinking when the 602s came out... that he just liked them better than any of his Zildjians. Pretty weird that once you get to his level that you can't just go play anything you want without it becoming this huge "thing" (forum fodder, mfr website scrambles, etc).
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.

Last edited by MikeM; 03-28-2012 at 03:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #448  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:37 AM
Ian Williams's Avatar
Ian Williams Ian Williams is offline
Rebel
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Venezuela.
Posts: 3,241
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

At the end of day sooner or later. We all go back to our roots...isn't it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
Now that Vinnie has made the move to a Luddy/Paiste combo. Is he going to suddenly start sounding like Bonzo or early Ian Paice?
__________________
"Forget the message, forget the lyrics, and just play." - Ginger Baker
Reply With Quote
  #449  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:06 AM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,877
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
But would you if the free ones weren't your favorite cymbals in terms of sound?
If they were crap, no.
Among the big 3, over the past 10-20 years, we've seen each brand attempt to make something that cashes in on a successful line of another brand. The differences exist, but it's getting smaller compared to where it used to be. (notice JR Robinson switched to Paiste, but plays their Twenty line, which were developed to sound like Zildjians...haha)

And, over time, what sound pleases my ear has changed as well.

Quote:
They were, by various accounts, following "their guy" and not happy with who was left standing at Zildjian - but it didn't seem to have anything to do with the actual cymbals, which were presumably their favorites up to that point.
I see your point, and agree to a large extent.

But Lenny wasn't just a guy who worked there, he was the guy who hand picks cymbals, and helped develop the sounds the companies put out. So, to an extent, following him does have to do with the cymbals, because of his behind the scenes work into getting the cymbals made. Notice Peart doesn't play standard Sabians either, and numerous things have been custom made for Weckl as well.


Quote:
For the record, I think Sabian has a waaaaay better business model and spirit of innovation than Zildjian,
And for the guys who make their living in the music BUSINESS that can be considered an important factor to some.

Quote:
I can't imagine that anyone at Zildjian could piss me off enough to not play them anymore. Or, maybe I can imagine it, but I'm glad that isn't happening because I don't even know a single Zildjian employee
.
I know people at both. Not as many I used to though.

Quote:
Now that I think about it, maybe that's all Vinnie was thinking when the 602s came out... that he just liked them better than his A Customs..
If you sit back and think about it for a minute, what did Vinny say when he was developing the A-custom line? He wanted some thing thin, that speaks quickly, vintage sounding, but brighter than K.... which essentially describes the 602 line as well.
Does kind of make one go "hummm......"

Back when I was much younger, I was a devoted Zildjian guy, but I played a (then discontinued) 602 Ride at school, and it was an amazing cymbal. So get how someone who really loves Zildjian could fall in love with the 602 sound.
Reply With Quote
  #450  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:16 AM
Bo Eder's Avatar
Bo Eder Bo Eder is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 11,533
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Regardless of who's stuff he's playing, I'll bet he'll still sound like Vinnie.
Reply With Quote
  #451  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:26 AM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum View Post
But Lenny wasn't just a guy who worked there, he was the guy who hand picks cymbals, and helped develop the sounds the companies put out. So, to an extent, following him does have to do with the cymbals, because of his behind the scenes work into getting the cymbals made. Notice Peart doesn't play standard Sabians either, and numerous things have been custom made for Weckl as well.
Yeah, that's an important consideration for sure. That would a valuable service to anyone.

But what Lenny doesn't have control over is the recipe. All cymbals from Sabian start life the same way: the ingredients are added, cooked up, poured, and rolled into until they look like a pizza. Zildjian has a similar process for getting to their pizzas, but the recipe for it is different. That's why you can hear the difference between Zildjian and Sabian regardless of whether their AA, Paragon, HHX, K Custom, A Series, etc...

Anyway, it's Zildjian's recipe for getting to the plain 'ole undefined pizza stage that I like better, and that alone would make me not want to switch.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum View Post
If you sit back and think about it for a minute, what did Vinny say when he was developing the A-custom line? He wanted some thing thin, that speaks quickly, vintage sounding, but brighter than K.... which essentially describes the 602 line as well.
Does kind of make one go "hummm......"
Yeah, I get that. You're right - 602s doing vintage Zildjian better than Zildjian!
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.
Reply With Quote
  #452  
Old 03-28-2012, 03:37 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo Eder View Post
Regardless of who's stuff he's playing, I'll bet he'll still sound like Vinnie.
But how can that be? It flies in the face of everything I've seen from manufacturers promotional material and adverts in drum magazines......not to mention what I read on drum forums.

Nup, it just can't be true. He's gonna sound like Bonzo or Paicey, for sure. Those Vinnie-isms will cave to double strokes and thundering triplets....mark my words.
Reply With Quote
  #453  
Old 03-29-2012, 03:52 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

From Drummagazine.com:

Apparently the legendary Los Angeles session and touring ace has decided to drop all of his endorsements and simply play whatever instruments he feels like at any given time.

Full article here: http://www.drummagazine.com/news

Interesting.

Maybe those Ludwig stands weren't enough to get him over the line in the end??
Reply With Quote
  #454  
Old 03-29-2012, 03:58 AM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
Apparently the legendary Los Angeles session and touring ace has decided to drop all of his endorsements and simply play whatever instruments he feels like at any given time.
I think that the coolest thing I've ever seen! (well... pretty dang cool, anyway)
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.
Reply With Quote
  #455  
Old 03-29-2012, 04:07 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
I think that the coolest thing I've ever seen! (well... pretty dang cool, anyway)
I'm guessing it'll be about the only situation where we'll be able to compare Vinnie to the rest of us.
Reply With Quote
  #456  
Old 03-29-2012, 05:20 AM
Bo Eder's Avatar
Bo Eder Bo Eder is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 11,533
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
From Drummagazine.com:

Apparently the legendary Los Angeles session and touring ace has decided to drop all of his endorsements and simply play whatever instruments he feels like at any given time.

Full article here: http://www.drummagazine.com/news

Interesting.

Maybe those Ludwig stands weren't enough to get him over the line in the end??
That's very cool! I feel the same way. I don't know if I could say 'yes' to just one company, and I probably never will (not that anybody's asking me to endorse or anything....).
Reply With Quote
  #457  
Old 03-29-2012, 07:00 AM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,877
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
From Drummagazine.com:

Apparently the legendary Los Angeles session and touring ace has decided to drop all of his endorsements and simply play whatever instruments he feels like at any given time.

Full article here: http://www.drummagazine.com/news

Interesting.

Maybe those Ludwig stands weren't enough to get him over the line in the end??
Interesting in that he will no longer have the one thing most endorsers want:

Tour support!

But I suppose he has enough drum kits all now it's not a major concern.

So, now, where those 602s in the video, or where they A Customs with the logos removed?
Reply With Quote
  #458  
Old 03-29-2012, 07:07 AM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum View Post
Interesting in that he will no longer have the one thing most endorsers want:

Tour support!
But he has an army of crew to lug all his stuff around so you'd think it wouldn't be a big deal to bring some extra sticks, heads, and cymbals along. He probably has a kit in storage over in Europe and when he tours Asia, it wouldn't be hard to rent whatever he needed. I mean, he does play the most common kit configuration on the planet, it couldn't be that hard to have something to play on every night, right? Maybe I'm missing something, but for a guy like him that probably doesn't break much, how much tour support does he really need?
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.
Reply With Quote
  #459  
Old 03-29-2012, 07:09 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumEatDrum View Post
Interesting in that he will no longer have the one thing most endorsers want:

Tour support!

But I suppose he has enough drum kits all now it's not a major concern.

So, now, where those 602s in the video, or where they A Customs with the logos removed?
I wondered exactly the same thing.....and came to pretty much the same conclusion. I reckon he'd have stashed a number of kits away over the years. Poor drum tech might have to do a little more leg work to get them. But then again, I imagine being Vinnie's drum tech would be much like being Tiger Woods' caddy.....he's probably making more money than most of us anyway......what's another storage facility on his already vast travel schedule? :-)

Still don't think they're AC's. I'll roll with the Cymbalholic boffins.....some of those guys have amazing eyes for detail. If they're calling 602's, it'd be a brave man that bets against them.
Reply With Quote
  #460  
Old 03-29-2012, 07:16 AM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,877
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
He has an army of crew to lug all his stuff around so you'd think it wouldn't be a big deal to bring some extra sticks, heads, and cymbals along. He probably has a kit in storage over in Europe and when he tours Asia, it wouldn't be hard to rent whatever he needed. I mean, he does play the most common kit configuration on the planet, it couldn't be that hard to have something to play on every night, right?
True.

But when you play with guys like Sting, you're bound to do a lot of one-off shows, and jumping around in ways where carrying your own kit with out isn't always practical. Top guys generally like having an company handle that all for them.

But given the big name brands often go through cartage companies to supply endorsers with kits for special event, and Vinny already uses the same cartage companies for his session work, it's probably not much sweat off his back at this point. And as you said, his set up is pretty common.
Reply With Quote
  #461  
Old 03-29-2012, 07:46 AM
KzSgDrummer's Avatar
KzSgDrummer KzSgDrummer is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boston
Posts: 510
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Absolutely hilarious and awkward video of Vinnie annoyed.....I couldn't even watch the whole thing it was too awkward:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njAtqwUvfiU

.
__________________
Gentlemen Hall
Reply With Quote
  #462  
Old 03-29-2012, 07:50 AM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Quote:
Originally Posted by KzSgDrummer View Post
Absolutely hilarious and awkward video of Vinnie annoyed with this camera-person's tenacity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njAtqwUvfiU

.
Yep. Pretty funny. If you're interested in the discussion, check this thread out: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=88882
Reply With Quote
  #463  
Old 03-29-2012, 08:11 AM
KzSgDrummer's Avatar
KzSgDrummer KzSgDrummer is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boston
Posts: 510
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Thanks, Pocket. That's what happens when I visit the Drummers forum before General Discussions.
__________________
Gentlemen Hall

Last edited by KzSgDrummer; 03-29-2012 at 08:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #464  
Old 03-29-2012, 09:52 AM
8Mile's Avatar
8Mile 8Mile is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 2,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Good for him.

It's funny. People wondering "will he still sound like Vinnie" playing other gear. The reality is we almost surely already know the answer. Guys endorse a brand but still use other stuff when they record. Anybody wondering what Vinnie sounds like playing Ludwig has probably already heard it!
Reply With Quote
  #465  
Old 03-29-2012, 10:22 AM
keep it simple's Avatar
keep it simple keep it simple is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Herefordshire, UK.
Posts: 16,992
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8Mile View Post
Good for him.
Guys endorse a brand but still use other stuff when they record. Anybody wondering what Vinnie sounds like playing Ludwig has probably already heard it!
Very true! We've supplied stuff "under the radar". Actually, it's more simple than that. What a player chooses to buy with their own money is no business of the company whom they endorse. The deal is based around brand exposure, credits, etc, so as long as those elements aren't disturbed, there's no issue. I even know a guy who makes a good living out of supplying very special percussion instruments (mainly snares) to endorsed artists for studio work.
__________________
This message is brought to you courtesy of Thinly Veiled Productions inc.
Reply With Quote
  #466  
Old 03-29-2012, 10:39 AM
Midnite Zephyr's Avatar
Midnite Zephyr Midnite Zephyr is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Surf City, CA
Posts: 3,336
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

I've been playing Paiste lately too and I still sound like me. Sorry...carry on...

If he's playing cymbals with no logos and you guys don't know if they're A Customs or 602's, then I'd say he will sound like himself.
__________________
5A Sticks--Coated Heads--Acoustic Drums--Cast Bronze Cymbals--Heavy-Duty Hardware
Reply With Quote
  #467  
Old 03-29-2012, 01:55 PM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8Mile View Post
People wondering "will he still sound like Vinnie" playing other gear. The reality is we almost surely already know the answer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnite Zephyr View Post
I've been playing Paiste lately too and I still sound like me. Sorry...carry on...

If he's playing cymbals with no logos and you guys don't know if they're A Customs or 602's, then I'd say he will sound like himself.
It was a joke!! And a pretty obvious one I would have thought.

I dunno you blokes.......live a little will you! :-)
Reply With Quote
  #468  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:06 AM
Midnite Zephyr's Avatar
Midnite Zephyr Midnite Zephyr is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Surf City, CA
Posts: 3,336
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
It was a joke!! And a pretty obvious one I would have thought.

I dunno you blokes.......live a little will you! :-)
I should get out more. ha ha.
I have pasty white skin, and I live in So Cal. ?

Anyway, yeah my humor is often misinterpreted as being serious. Sorry for the confusion. Maybe he was playing Sabians and he didn't like the logo like so many people.
__________________
5A Sticks--Coated Heads--Acoustic Drums--Cast Bronze Cymbals--Heavy-Duty Hardware
Reply With Quote
  #469  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:42 AM
Ian Williams's Avatar
Ian Williams Ian Williams is offline
Rebel
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Venezuela.
Posts: 3,241
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Of course it was a dry joke! Vinnie will sound like Pocket or Bill Ward, enough said... :*)
__________________
"Forget the message, forget the lyrics, and just play." - Ginger Baker
Reply With Quote
  #470  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:04 AM
MikeM's Avatar
MikeM MikeM is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,772
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

OMG! I heard Steve Gadd was switching from Ampex boxes to ProTools software boxes!

Does no one have brand loyalty anymore?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2ko6ATAV0
__________________
><Darwin> Recent band.
Reply With Quote
  #471  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:49 AM
Chunky's Avatar
Chunky Chunky is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 841
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

I can't believe what a big deal it is. It's devastating for Zildjian but, why would anyone else really care?
He'll still sound like himself. Like others have said, he could he using anything on record and he'll have a sound he goes for and he could pick any of the top brands and and replicate his sound fairly closely. Not to mention miking and EQing etc.

It would be interesting if someone could upload some comparisons of kits, try catching us out.
__________________
I like my drum sound fat and simple. Just like me.
Reply With Quote
  #472  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:50 AM
aydee aydee is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,269
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
OMG! I heard Steve Gadd was switching from Ampex boxes to ProTools software boxes!

Does no one have brand loyalty anymore?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk2ko6ATAV0

Lol. I had a boss once who called this kind of thing " listening to the thundering footsteps of an ant climbing a wall"


...
Reply With Quote
  #473  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:12 PM
Pocket-full-of-gold's Avatar
Pocket-full-of-gold Pocket-full-of-gold is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 10,003
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunky - Hellraizer View Post
I can't believe what a big deal it is. It's devastating for Zildjian but, why would anyone else really care?
I'm not sure anyone does.....really. It's more just an interesting point of discussion that drum nerds can gather round and speculate to our nerdy heart's content.

Sure as hell beats yet another thread on who makes the fastest 5B sticks. Or what the best velcro for the underside of a base pettle is. Or whether burying a ZBT will really turn it into a K Custom. Or whether one should teach now that they've just completed their third week of lessons. Or even The Beatles vs Korn (yes, that one really exists!!!).

Nup....gimme Vinnie and his 602's (or not), anyday of the week.
Reply With Quote
  #474  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:22 PM
Chunky's Avatar
Chunky Chunky is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 841
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pocket-full-of-gold View Post
I'm not sure anyone does.....really. It's more just an interesting point of discussion that drum nerds can gather round and speculate to our nerdy heart's content.

Sure as hell beats yet another thread on who makes the fastest 5B sticks. Or what the best velcro for the underside of a base pettle is. Or whether burying a ZBT will really turn it into a K Custom. Or whether one should teach now that they've just completed their third week of lessons. Or even The Beatles vs Korn (yes, that one really exists!!!).

Nup....gimme Vinnie and his 602's (or not), anyday of the week.
Wow! I thought the 5B one was bad til you said Beatlea vs Korn! That'a a whole new kind of cronic!

Must be so damaging to a company to lose a drummr who is always in the top 10 usually number 1 best drummer in the rhythm polls.

I haven't seej the vid, does he have a bad temper? he seems so nice in interviews.
__________________
I like my drum sound fat and simple. Just like me.
Reply With Quote
  #475  
Old 03-30-2012, 07:00 PM
DrumEatDrum's Avatar
DrumEatDrum DrumEatDrum is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 7,877
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunky - Hellraizer View Post
I can't believe what a big deal it is. It's devastating for Zildjian but, why would anyone else really care?
He'll still sound like himself. Like others have said, he could he using anything on record and he'll have a sound he goes for and he could pick any of the top brands and and replicate his sound fairly closely. Not to mention miking and EQing etc.

It would be interesting if someone could upload some comparisons of kits, try catching us out.
Because it's part of the music business, and some of us are interested in the business side as well as the music side.

At least I am.
Reply With Quote
  #476  
Old 03-30-2012, 07:21 PM
leroydriver leroydriver is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 6
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Vinnie is definitely with Paiste. Press release will be forthcoming.
Reply With Quote
  #477  
Old 03-30-2012, 07:23 PM
leroydriver leroydriver is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 6
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Ultimately, Vinnie will always sound like Vinnie. I remember hearing YEARS ago that he had a couple of sets of Paiste cymbals tucked away for recording.
Reply With Quote
  #478  
Old 03-31-2012, 04:21 AM
leroydriver leroydriver is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 6
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
Hey, it's one thing to jump ship to company X, but to go from b20 to b8 ... do you think he'd get that carried away? Hmmm. It'll be interesting to see. He does like him some bright cymbals now and then.
If he is indeed using 602's, those are B20.
Reply With Quote
  #479  
Old 04-05-2012, 05:49 PM
richkenyon's Avatar
richkenyon richkenyon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 495
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Vinnie will always sound like Vinnie, but it can still be a different sound. I much preferred his Yamaha 9000 sound to anything I heard when he was with Gretsch, although the drum head choices will have a part to play amongst other things. Similarly, with the Sting video, albeit the sound quality is not amazing, I don't really like the cymbal tone as much as his Zildjians.

I remember hearing Weckl when he did the reunion album with Chick Corea Elektric Band. I thought his Sabian hi-hats sounded awful on that album. Much preferred the K/Zs he used for years.
__________________
http://www.richardkenyon.com
Reply With Quote
  #480  
Old 04-05-2012, 05:49 PM
richkenyon's Avatar
richkenyon richkenyon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 495
Default Re: Vinnie Colaiuta goes to PAISTE

Forgot to mention - just saw a pic of Vinnie playing a Ludwig kit.
__________________
http://www.richardkenyon.com
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com