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Old 02-25-2012, 03:57 AM
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Polly, Nazereth was great stuff. Used to play "Now your messin with a son of a bitch" every day on the jukebox at lunch time, in grade 8.
Not that is really matters, but technically, the song is named "Hair of dog."

It's huge radio hit here in America. Guns and Roses did a cover of it at one point.
Along with their ballad "Love Hurts" Nazereth still gets a ton of radio play on classic rock radio stations.
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Nazareth .... the album "Loud 'n' Proud .... they did quite tasty covers of Lowell George's "Teenage Nervous Breakdown" ... Joni Mitchell's "This Flight Tonight" ... and Bob Dylan's "The Ballad of Hollis Brown" ..... Deep Purple's Roger Glover, producer.
On the album "Hair of the Dog" a great version of Nils Lofgren's "Beggars Day" and on the song "Please Don't Judas Me", a very young Simon Phillips plays tabla. Simon was 18.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:19 AM
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Its not dead, its just hiding with the rest of the good original music... underground.
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:37 PM
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Nazareth .... the album "Loud 'n' Proud .... they did quite tasty covers of Lowell George's "Teenage Nervous Breakdown" ... Joni Mitchell's "This Flight Tonight" ... and Bob Dylan's "The Ballad of Hollis Brown" ..... Deep Purple's Roger Glover, producer.
Nazareth cover of Joni Mitchell is one my favourite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylW6sC6NNhY

Sorry for the derail in the thread :))

But no, Death Metal's not dead, my daughtter is listening to this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtqthO-4Ig ... err, not for me really, but the younger generations have a taste for such bands :)
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:24 PM
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Nazareth cover of Joni Mitchell is one my favourite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylW6sC6NNhY

Sorry for the derail in the thread :))

But no, Death Metal's not dead, my daughtter is listening to this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtqthO-4Ig ... err, not for me really, but the younger generations have a taste for such bands :)
Oh good grief - now I know where Axl Rose got his shtick. Like I said, I never heard much of Nazareth.

I can't listen to more than 5 seconds of death metal but understand the appeal - it's that whole maximum intensity thing. Probably similar to how I felt about Purple and Sabbath back in the day, not to mention Elvis fans in the 50s when everyone was freaking out about his shaking hips, Benny Goodman fans who offended the classical set, and Wagner fans no doubt worried the Bach brigade ...

I just find it hard to imagine where the next generation will go for their intensity increase after death metal and the more extreme types. I mean it has to be something that renders death metal "tame" ... maybe noise and atonality? But that begs the question of where you go from there. It feels to me like the circle is going to turn soon-ish because there's not much room to take things further.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:56 PM
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But that begs the question of where you go from there. It feels to me like the circle is going to turn soon-ish because there's not much room to take things further.
Yes, it can be another topic open to discussion indeed, a follow to your thread: The birth of heavy metal http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=82168 , it could be named " the after birth effect and the future on heavy metal", lol, with this thread in between the two :)

Many metal artists and bands do not know what to invent or create within the genre, but a shocking image, agressive lyrics and riffs, and every aspect to touch a new audience seemed to have been covered, perhaps a return to where it all started could be the answer, both in terms of musicality and image, like in fashion, nothing's really new isn't it? things from the past keep re-appearing all the time.

You liked Sweet Dreams didn't you Polly, here's a metallised version, with all the look and approriate (disappropriate?) voice and riffs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT4gs_Lray4
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Pure Death Metal...Deicide - "Homage for Satan."

Check: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJkMrl4AG8w
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it depends on where you live in the world, it might be dead or seem that way in one part and thriving in another. As for dead I don't think it will ever die as there are just too many pissed off people in the world that enjoy playing and listening to faster more aggressive and down right pissed off music, and it keeps progressing and evolving. Unlike the 80's hair bands I think death metal and heavy music is here to stay.
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Stumbled across this, just had to share it, I mean, how could you not laugh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOibI...eature=related

Not a death metal hater either. I am a huge Rush fan yet seeing clips of them in their "kimono wearing stage" makes me laugh too.
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Stumbled across this, just had to share it, I mean, how could you not laugh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOibI...eature=related
If you are going to play black metal, at least make it sound good like this. Every older BM video is pretty cheesy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LecYsiGeauc

But I find this album funny, You can barely hear the guitars in it, so its like its just drums and gurgling. (But I enjoy it for some odd reason)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8n6kzBfnYQ

Though they have improved to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPW0XKPw-C0
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I know this probably won't go over well on here but I think all metal died when korn became popular. Really cheapened the genre.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:27 AM
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Oh good grief - now I know where Axl Rose got his shtick.
Yup, pretty much "on the money" there. Then Axl "added" a little snake dance move ... Davy Jones - Monkee's ('bout 1 minute into the song) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8urg...eature=related Davy's the first "rocker" I saw, do that dance. Darned near nothing, from 1980 on, in rock 'n' roll, is an original idea.
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Yup, pretty much "on the money" there. Then Axl "added" a little snake dance move ... Davy Jones - Monkee's ('bout 1 minute into the song) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8urg...eature=related Davy's the first "rocker" I saw, do that dance. Darned near nothing, from 1980 on, in rock 'n' roll, is an original idea.
Interesting, and there'd be no Robert Plant without Janis Joplin.
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Even if there are a million new death metal bands popping up every single day, if they all sound like watered down copies of what other death metal bands have already done then they might as well not exist at all. The NWOBHM produced some killer bands but also an infinite number of clones that pretty much killed the whole thing.

I'm more interested in bands doing something original and innovative, not staying in the comfort zone of what have become death metal cliches. I'm just not sure what new territory is left to explore in death metal and extreme metal in general. I find myself listening to the old school stuff more and more because of all the clones out there. The competition to see who can play the fastest and have the most brutal tone is stale city. The litmus test is still who can write quality songs that sound as good 20 years from now as they did when they were first released. I can still listen to Morbid Angel's covenant album over and over and have a satisfying listening experience, and then I listen to generic death metal band x's album once and toss it on the garbage heap of been there done that blandness.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:08 AM
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I know this probably won't go over well on here but I think all metal died when korn became popular. Really cheapened the genre.
What a nonsense (IMO). But hey, think what you think. I can deal with your statement because you expressed an opinion, not a scientific revelation. So "go over well" isn't that relevant in this context. One opinion vs. another.
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I know this probably won't go over well on here but I think all metal died when korn became popular. Really cheapened the genre.
Yeah, and all the silly Satanism, tattoos, chains, spikes and Dungeons and Dragons stuff is really classy!

Metal, like anything else, was bound to evolve and change and fucing with rap and other genres is to be expected.
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I got into Tool a few years back and have been getting into heavier stuff since. I never understood the appeal of super fast playing (that's just me), but I love post rock/metal and prog metal. I don't know if anyone's mentioned these bands,or if you know them, but Opeth has some great music, and they started out as a death metal band and still incorporate it into their music which has evolved a whole lot of 20 years. Isis is amazing, very moving and beautiful and builds to a nice heavy climax. Cult of Luna is good too, some songs are very soft, but the heavy parts (to me at least) are just crushing - i love it. Mastodon's earliest stuff the heaviest, but their newest stuff is good to. There's bands like Rosetta, Russian Circles (post hard rock, not so much metal), Baroness and early Electric Wizard are some other bands that have really pushed the envelope of metal today imo. They go beyond just being heavy, and make something brand new. Hope this helps.
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