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Old 02-16-2012, 06:01 AM
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Default Quick and Crisp China

So I got a Wuhan 18 inch china and it's okay, but the sound kills me. It is overly loud.. And I want a way to silence it a little bit. is there any way to maybe take the volume down a little? Also I love a very quick, crisp china sound. (For example listen to Chelsea Grin, For Today, etc.) but mine has too much ring and sustain. Is there a way I can change up these two problems? Any help/advice would be much appreciated! Thanks, Tanner Nolen
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

I think that a 18" wuhan is actually good. Try putting a moon-gel on it maybe or since it's so cheap even a little tape...be creative. Try getting a 14" cause I have one and it sounds more like the sound you are describing.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

okay thank you! I have actually tried putting aluminum tape on it and that works somewhat in small doses. But I will look into moongel because I've been thinking about that anyway and they are cheap :) and I am also thinking about getting a 14 inch or so. maybe 16. just a smaller size that will be softer and crisper.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

Wuhan china's are very harsh.Moon gel will not take the volume down, it will deaden your china. My opinion: sell the Wuhan and get a 14" sabian Weckl china. Beautiful sound and no harsh attack on youe ear drums.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

sounds will change in a recording... depending on how everything is miced, how much compression is used/etc will drastically change the sound...
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

What uniin said... out of all cymbals, chinas probably change the most when recorded, and the quick, snappy china you hear on record may be a little more ringy in real life.

When you pick out a china, the steeper the profile (i.e. more like a bowl than a dish), the gongier and less trashy the sound will be. I tend to look for shallower, flatter chinas with wider lips for more trash.

If you're looking for quick and snappy, you could always downsize. I also own a 14" Wuhan and it's great for quick fills and effects. To shorten the attack even further, you could always use a smaller cymbal stacked inside, like a Trashformer splash.
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:59 PM
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I've got a 15" Paiste 2002 Wild China.

Very fast attack, short decay.
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

The other thing you can try is stack up a couple of cymbal felts and have the china sort of tight on the stand. This will shorten the sound drastically and might work a lot better than dampening with tape or moon gels.

Just be careful not to crack it if you have it tight on the cymbal stand.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

I have the same cymbal, and I love the sound. I have tried experimenting with putting an upside down cymbal (13", 14", and 16") inside the china upside down, but I can't seem to be able to get it in the since the bell(?) of the china dips down about two inches. If you can figure out a way to do that, it may help.
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:23 PM
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another way to dry out a cymbal is to cut your own larger bottom felts out of carpet. just cut a 2-4in dia. circle and drill a hole.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

Thanks everybody for the help. I really wish I could get the paiste 2002 15 cause those are beautiful. And I'm sure recording changes the sound up quite a bit. But I'm considering getting a smaller china and maybe trying something of a different brand. Alocer, I am going to try that carpet Idea. Thank you all!
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:55 AM
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keep in mind a lot of the overtones will also disapear in a recording and live situation when you add guitars, bass, and all the rest...
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: Quick and Crisp China

My favorite way of controlling a china (as well as splashes) is to throw a couple extra felts on it and tighten down the wingnut a little extra. Allows it to project but not vibrate for as long, thusly a quick decay.
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