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Old 06-04-2010, 11:43 PM
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If a drummer has to ice their hands, it means the vibration from the stick is injuring them, so they're not using moeller properly or at all. I guess Vinnie doesn't apply this technique. If you use moeller you can play very hard and loud without any impact on your hands.
Actually, I think it's called the free-stroke, and moeller is for triplets and fast accents? Anyway, let's steer clear from technique stuff and get back to vinnie :P

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Old 06-04-2010, 11:58 PM
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Well I'm coming back to language and playing "properly" here: Unlike paintings, music is mostly made by several people simultaneously. So there is no absolute freedom, compromises and decisions have to be made. If you are hired by a blues guitarist, you have to play the "proper" language, which does put you in a box of course. But then I believe you have to put yourself in a certain "box" anyway if you play. You can't just always play everything that comes to mind no matter what. But that doesn't have to be a bad thing, does it?
By the way I don't mean technically correct or always on the spot in a robotic way by being "proper". I just mean fitting the circumstances.
This is the reason why I like to be in different bands or projects at the same time, i.e. a jazz band, and a rock band. So in the rock band I'd try to make my parts fit the riffs, the melodies, the songs, and make it rock. I don't have to be sad for not getting to shred or whatever, because I know I'll be in the jazz band some days later where I can display a whole other side of me. That's a cool thing. And that's a thing Vinnie does very, very classy :).
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:38 PM
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I agree with some and disagree with some SM.
Thaard that's incorrect. Moeller is a single-multiple stroke technique. Whether it's a single stroke, double, triple, or even 4 notes in a row per hand. And April is right, if you use Moeller, there should never be any impact on your hands. He probably has tendonitis which is common in drummers. Hence icing to keep the swelling down. Unfortunately even Moeller can't prevent tendonitis. Drummers that practice constantly always seem to develop this. Like Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta and many others.
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:54 AM
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I agree with some and disagree with some SM.
Thaard that's incorrect. Moeller is a single-multiple stroke technique. Whether it's a single stroke, double, triple, or even 4 notes in a row per hand. And April is right, if you use Moeller, there should never be any impact on your hands. He probably has tendonitis which is common in drummers. Hence icing to keep the swelling down. Unfortunately even Moeller can't prevent tendonitis. Drummers that practice constantly always seem to develop this. Like Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta and many others.
Ive found that warming up and stretching out prevents/helps this, but enough of that. Saw some videos of Vinnie with the 5 piece band. Was pretty cool.
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Old 06-08-2010, 12:05 PM
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Were did you find videos? Is there an official dvd or something, too? I got the double cd.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:54 PM
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Were did you find videos? Is there an official dvd or something, too? I got the double cd.
Youtube, bootlegs etc.
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I got the Jeff Beck dvd "playing this week" :D!
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:24 PM
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it's hard with guys on tour. they get moody. I met weckl once and he was really nice. I met him a second time and he was a prick. Vinnie i met 3 times and every time he was really cool. I just heard him playing big band with paul anka. Pretty nice. The man can do it all.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:30 PM
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Vinnie in session with Richard Page

http://vimeo.com/12926810

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Old 11-19-2010, 09:22 PM
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Vinnie in session with Richard Page

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Cool vid thanks for posting. It's really interesting to see top players like these at work in the studio!
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:29 PM
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This is just so Vinnielicious.
The whole band sounds excellent but Vinnie is really killing it!
The groove is sooo laid back and cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQyl65DUZU

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Old 12-25-2010, 03:47 PM
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Anyone heard of this? Vinnie and Landau had this fusion band called Dog Cheese. Pretty neat stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ygSs...ture=recentlik
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Old 12-25-2010, 03:54 PM
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Anyone heard of this? Vinnie and Landau had this fusion band called Dog Cheese. Pretty neat stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ygSs...ture=recentlik
V cool Thaardy... thats one of my favorite guitar players too!
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:13 PM
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Anyone heard of this? Vinnie and Landau had this fusion band called Dog Cheese. Pretty neat stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ygSs...ture=recentlik
Thanks Thaard, I've never heard this stuff before. Now that's what I call rock of the soul. Great guitar sound & presence. Great find!
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:28 PM
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Thanks Thaard, I've never heard this stuff before. Now that's what I call rock of the soul. Great guitar sound & presence. Great find!
yea man, it's pretty chill. You should check out Jing Chi if you like this.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:56 PM
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Hey Fellows!

Question: There once was a clip (on Youtube) from the MD-Festival 2000, where Vinnie was explaining the "I'm tweaked"-Groove...

Does anyone now if this clip is still around??
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:59 PM
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I own the dvd. Whadda ya wanna know :)?
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Old 01-28-2012, 02:28 AM
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No more Gretsch drums for Vinnie? Can it be?
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Old 01-28-2012, 03:06 AM
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Heard an interesting/exciting rumor about that... :)
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Old 01-28-2012, 03:28 AM
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Heard an interesting/exciting rumor about that... :)
Ah come on.....don't leave us hangin'.

Let me guess....deedubya.
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:06 AM
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..

A RARE ONE OF KARIZMA ON THE TUBE:
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:32 AM
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:40 PM
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thanks radicus!

Here's sex on toast. A simple rock beat on the surface and a tsunami underneath..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7EOb...eature=related

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Old 02-03-2012, 07:36 PM
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Ah come on.....don't leave us hangin'.

Let me guess....deedubya.
My guess is that Vinnie may be going to Ludwig, especially since some folks have reported seeing Vinnie hanging out at the Ludwig booth at NAMM.
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:13 PM
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The guy who can record any song in one take, make some money and go home. One of my favourites.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:51 AM
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Vinnie was NOT hangin out at the Ludwig booth at NAMM..and I was there a bunch...I don't think this is happening..although I would love for him for comin over! :)
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:56 PM
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Yesterday played his sig Gretsch with Sting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7uqV...layer_embedded

(what a master...)
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:00 PM
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There was some speculation following the video on YouTube of Vinnie getting upset at someone filming him playing "Seven Days" that he wasn't using Zildjians & that maybe they were the new Paiste 602s.
I've just heard from a drummer friend that Vinnie has indeed switched to Paiste!! Nothing on the website yet, but I haven't heard anything this big since,well, Vinnie left Yamaha!!
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:07 PM
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I'll make my bold prediction now: Paiste is going to expand its offerings of 602s by the next NAMM show.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see they have already added some new hats and crash sizes!
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:12 PM
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Nothing on Paiste's face book or website making it "official".

Although this rumor is running rampant around the internet.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:36 PM
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Yep, after a week of wild speculation, the Cymbalholic forum seems to be convinced the rumour has now become fact. It will be interesting to see if/when a Ludwig announcement is forthcoming now.

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I'll make my bold prediction now: Paiste is going to expand its offerings of 602s by the next NAMM show.
I wonder if those new Giant Beat Thins will be seen flyin' from Vinnies new Ludwig stands? :-)
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:49 PM
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I wonder if those new Giant Beat Thins will be seen flyin' from Vinnies new Ludwig stands? :-)
Hey, it's one thing to jump ship to company X, but to go from b20 to b8 ... do you think he'd get that carried away? Hmmm. It'll be interesting to see. He does like him some bright cymbals now and then.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:22 AM
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Hey, it's one thing to jump ship to company X, but to go from b20 to b8 ... do you think he'd get that carried away? Hmmm. It'll be interesting to see. He does like him some bright cymbals now and then.
Once he hears the magic of those B8's, he'll be like a rat up a drain pipe to get his hands on some.

Although I think the more important question is: As we all know, the kit and cymbals maketh the drummers sound. Now that Vinnie has made the move to a Luddy/Paiste combo. Is he going to suddenly start sounding like Bonzo or early Ian Paice?
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:24 AM
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If true I feel bad for whoever has to remove Vinnie's name from the Zildjian website. His name and pic is all over almost every mention of the A Customs as "developed by Vinnie Colaiuta."
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I didn't know about the Ludwig story!... tbh I have been really unimpressed with Vinnie's sound with Gretsch. He had such a great sound with Yamaha 9000 kits & Maple Customs, it was quite a radically different sound with Gretsch.

It's worth noting that the Gretsch sound from his recording kit that he used when he was actually still with Yamaha was fabulous - but very different from that of his "signature" set.

Not the best sound quality on the seven days vid but I'm not taken by the unmarked (Paiste?) cymbal sound either... Puzzling!
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:38 AM
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Once he hears the magic of those B8's, he'll be like a rat up a drain pipe to get his hands on some.

Although I think the more important question is: As we all know, the kit and cymbals maketh the drummers sound. Now that Vinnie has made the move to a Luddy/Paiste combo. Is he going to suddenly start sounding like Bonzo or early Ian Paice?
Ha ha! I was wondering that too! I'm anxious to see him stepping out with his new 26/14/16/18 config playing butt ends of 2Bs. Now that would be earth shaking!
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:47 AM
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If true I feel bad for whoever has to remove Vinnie's name from the Zildjian website. His name and pic is all over almost every mention of the A Customs as "developed by Vinnie Colaiuta."
Yeah, I thought of that as well! It's going to be a long process! IDK; does anyone remember the SOUL CAGES LIVE video with the mystery YAMAHAs which were merely Gretsch drums with a Yamaha bass drum head?
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:18 PM
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Since when did he move to Ludwig? I know he suppposedly left Gretsch but I thought no official switch had been made... great to see another legend repping them Paistes though :)
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:39 PM
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If true I feel bad for whoever has to remove Vinnie's name from the Zildjian website. His name and pic is all over almost every mention of the A Customs as "developed by Vinnie Colaiuta."
Makes you wonder what's going on over there at Zildjian. Did he drop the Zildjian sticks too?
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:03 PM
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Makes you wonder what's going on over there at Zildjian. Did he drop the Zildjian sticks too?
Every since Armand passed away in 2002, and Lemmy Demuzio stepped down, endorsers have been leaving, no longer feeling the same loyalty without the key people in place.

But given Vinnie did stick around for another 10 years, it does make one wonder what the final straw was.
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