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Old 10-06-2011, 05:09 AM
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Very very nice!!! Congrats! What R the sizes? I guess 24, 12, 14, 16...
I reckon that's a 26" kick, and that rack is definitely a 13"
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:13 AM
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All my info should be in this thread: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=81641


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Old 10-06-2011, 05:28 AM
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Isn't this cute. A DW love in. Don't they make those kits any bigger. :)
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:35 AM
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Isn't this cute. A DW love in. Don't they make those kits any bigger. :)
I almost went with a 28"!
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:57 PM
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I almost went with a 28"!
I agree with you saying that 14 " and 16" at DW are deep enough floors. I bought a 16" and an 18" and they are almost too much. Got another DW WITH a 14 and 16 and they are perrrfect...
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:47 PM
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I use a 14 on the floor when I need a smaller footprint and the 16 when I have more room, love both.

the DW Tom do tend to sound bigger then they are
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:37 AM
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I just got back into drums after a good 10 yrs. I needed some assistance "tuning" them up. I can get 'em in the neighborhood, but it's always nice to have a real pro fine tune your gear. I wanna give a shout out to Rob of the Sin City Sinners out here in Las Vegas for helping me out and giving me some tips and lessons. Now my kit "Mojlnir" not only wields lightning and thunder, but it also sings!!! If you ever hit Vegas, be sure to check the Sinners out. They totally rock and you're guaranteed to have a good time.
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:32 AM
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That's a cool kit, love the match of colours. How's the gap between the 13" and 14". Personally, I'd go for a 12" x 9" rack... :)
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:41 AM
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It sounds incredible! LOVE IT!!!
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:40 PM
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Isn't this cute. A DW love in. Don't they make those kits any bigger. :)
It happens from time to time...

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Old 10-07-2011, 02:53 PM
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It happens from time to time...

Now that is what I am talking about. Very nice kit. Two thumbs up buddy. Don't get me wrong, they make beautiful stuff. I just think they want too much money for what you are getting. I can only imagine what my kit would be all DW. :)
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:55 PM
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I can only imagine what my kit would be all DW. :)
A quality set of drums, lol.

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Old 10-08-2011, 12:21 AM
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A quality set of drums, lol.

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Old 10-08-2011, 12:22 AM
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More like the down payment for a house.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:25 AM
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Jealousy is an awful thing. :)
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:26 AM
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I stare at Brundlefly's drums as if I discovered the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
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Old 10-08-2011, 10:31 AM
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Now that is what I am talking about. Very nice kit. Two thumbs up buddy. Don't get me wrong, they make beautiful stuff. I just think they want too much money for what you are getting. I can only imagine what my kit would be all DW. :)
I think the phrase "too much money" is wildly subjective.

Casting relative income differences aside... if you like the sound of other manufacturer's kits, and don't care about being able to be dead specific about your shell's intervals, and don't wish to custom design your own finish, and don't wish to have each shell potentially manufactured with a different laminate design and don't care about getting the world's only set of 8" maple SSC octabans with shells matched to a diatonic scale with custom mounting hardware... then yeah, DW charges too much and you really should be looking elsewhere. Honestly, you really are paying for more than you need if you aren't interested in some sub set of these things and I would be among the first to recommend looking elsewhere. It's not like the other guys don't make great stuff.

But there aren't too many places one can get this level of intense, personally collaborative custom drum design work done for less than what I paid for this kit (if there are any at all). And among those that might be in the ball park, I know of few (well, none, if I'm honest) who can offer every one of the features I took advantage of in the design of my kit. It is the first and only time I've ever purchased a kit that was a dead match for what was in my head in every detail. In its way, it is a work of personalized perfection. To me, that is worth every penny I spent.

And I expect the same will be true of the 13 x 7 x 3/8 cherry/maple Super Solid edge snare I ordered, which will be the first of its kind in existence come this December. Some fraction of the money that I spent on the kit funded the research that led to the Super Solid line. And the money I spent on this snare supports the increase in build options for that line as well. In this way, each purchase is a small investment, and DW has always paid dividends in the form of innovations from which I've been able to benefit.

And for the record, my current house down payment was 29.7 times the cost of my drum kit. The cost of my first house down payment was only 18.2 times the cost of the Tama kit that I purchased around that time frame. From that relative perspective, the Tama kit was a far larger stretch for me financially.

Now, because this is supposed to be an eye candy thread, I'll do my due diligence:

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Old 10-08-2011, 02:57 PM
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I think the phrase "too much money" is wildly subjective.

Casting relative income differences aside... if you like the sound of other manufacturer's kits, and don't care about being able to be dead specific about your shell's intervals, and don't wish to custom design your own finish, and don't wish to have each shell potentially manufactured with a different laminate design and don't care about getting the world's only set of 8" maple SSC octabans with shells matched to a diatonic scale with custom mounting hardware... then yeah, DW charges too much and you really should be looking elsewhere. Honestly, you really are paying for more than you need if you aren't interested in some sub set of these things and I would be among the first to recommend looking elsewhere. It's not like the other guys don't make great stuff.

But there aren't too many places one can get this level of intense, personally collaborative custom drum design work done for less than what I paid for this kit (if there are any at all). And among those that might be in the ball park, I know of few (well, none, if I'm honest) who can offer every one of the features I took advantage of in the design of my kit. It is the first and only time I've ever purchased a kit that was a dead match for what was in my head in every detail. In its way, it is a work of personalized perfection. To me, that is worth every penny I spent.

And I expect the same will be true of the 13 x 7 x 3/8 cherry/maple Super Solid edge snare I ordered, which will be the first of its kind in existence come this December. Some fraction of the money that I spent on the kit funded the research that led to the Super Solid line. And the money I spent on this snare supports the increase in build options for that line as well. In this way, each purchase is a small investment, and DW has always paid dividends in the form of innovations from which I've been able to benefit.

And for the record, my current house down payment was 29.7 times the cost of my drum kit. The cost of my first house down payment was only 18.2 times the cost of the Tama kit that I purchased around that time frame. From that relative perspective, the Tama kit was a far larger stretch for me financially.

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Old 10-08-2011, 03:05 PM
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Well it is nice to see someone that thinks like me on here. I don't have your money so I had to stick with something I could afford. That is a beautiful kit. Congratulations. When does the second bass come. Looks a little bit light on the bottom, and don't tell me you don't need it. :)
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:25 PM
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Is this a confession??!!..:)
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Is this a confession??!!..:)
Well considering I probably like the sound of my kit better because of the Walnut I would have to say no. Now if he has Walnut in those shells then maybe. :)
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:23 PM
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Well considering I probably like the sound of my kit better because of the Walnut I would have to say no. Now if he has Walnut in those shells then maybe. :)
Please don't take this the wrong way, but have you owned a DW kit before? I say that because I've got a 2010 Collector's standard 5 piece, and before that I owned a 5 piece Saturn in the exact same sizes. The Saturn cost me about ~$1500 and the DW cost me $2200 (finishply). The sound on both kits are outstanding, but the DWs are IMO a definite step up in hardware quality, construction, ease of tuning, and maintenance.

I know a lot of people like to look at DW and say since they are a maple kit with a steep price, it must be marketing, hype... I think most people who have owned (not just played) a DW would say otherwise.

Its like comparing a Honda Accord to a Mercedes CLS. Line the two cars up side to side without owning either and it's easy to say they are both four doors that will get you from point A to B. There's a lot more under the packaging that is easy to shrug off until you experience it.

To end my rambling post, I loved my Saturns,and I've played on many fine drums, but at the end of the day, I'd take a DW kit of any other based on my personal expereince with them.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:57 PM
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:57 PM
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Hey Jimbo. I am not taking it the wrong way at all. It is all good. I think you like the sound of an all maple shell. I don't. I don't even like my favorite drummers kit sound.(Neil Peart)
I bought my Saturns from one of the most established drum stores in Ontario, and probably Canada. They have every top of the line kit coming and going in that place. He is a huge DW retailer. He has had so many different one of a kind kits in there, and so on. I have tried many. They sound like Maple kits. Very well made maple kits, but still maple. When he called me in to see a used Saturn one day he admitted to me that the Saturn was an amazing kit. He said the sound was very unique. All the guys that worked there would tap the toms on the set that was in the window because of how unique they sounded. These guys are used to having Brady, DW, Sonor, Pearl, Ludwig, Tama, top of the line kits in their stores.

I did not buy the Saturn's because they were cheap or because of the name Mapex. I had not even heard the name before. The day I went in to look at the used kit was the first time I had seen Mapex before. They just had such a different sound to all the other kits that I had tried over the last 20 years of going into drum stores and wondering if I was missing anything by solely playing my Roland TD10 kit.

If you have seen my kit you will know that I am fussy. I know all about the DW hardware. That silly rack and all its stands costs more than most peoples kits. It was the rack and hardware that I wanted because it seemed to be the best built. We are not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but if I had wanted a DW kit, believe me I would of gotten one.

I love the the one hole and size of the Mapex lug. On the White it looked like buttons on a tuxedo. Nice and small and low in mass, without the extra hole that is not needed. There tom mounts are among the best out there as far as I'm concerned. Very Tama like, who I think have been the for runners for years on hardware. I don't like the huge lug on the DW. Lugs should be small, and low in mass as far as I'm concerned. I also don't like the DW tom mounting system. It is way too large and visible to me. I bought a top of the line DW snare stand a few years back and I hate it. It seems to never stay set. The Mapex one is beautifully made with a ball in socket joint for adjustment. I think Yamaha also does this. You can put the snare exactly were you want it and it will not move.

I have not owned a DW kit before, but I have enough of there stands pedals and hardware to know what they are about. They make good stuff just like everyone else. I love the sound of Walnut, and thin shells that project very well. Mapex just happens to make this.

I think a lot of people, whether they will admit it or not, see owning a DW as a status symbol. Kind of like owning a Harley. They are the kit to have right now because a lot of the pros are payed to play them. If was like this with TAMA in the past, as well as Ludwig. I don't buy my kit because of who plays it. I buy it because of how it sounds. I used a Maple patch on my Rolands for the last 20 years, and I am bored to tears with how they and the maple kits I hear sound. Maybe one day that will change, who knows. For now I love the sound of the Saturns. The fact that they are cheap is just a bonus. I get to buy more pieces. :)
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:12 PM
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I bought my Saturns from one of the most established drum stores in Ontario, and probably Canada.
Sorry for the slight thread hijack, but do you have a link to that store? It sounds like the kind of retailer it might actually be worth me speaking to next year.

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Sorry for the slight thread hijack, but do you have a link to that store? It sounds like the kind of retailer it might actually be worth me speaking to next year.

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Old 10-08-2011, 06:36 PM
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...I did not buy the Saturn's because they were cheap or because of the name Mapex. I had not even heard the name before. The day I went in to look at the used kit was the first time I had seen Mapex before. They just had such a different sound to all the other kits that I had tried over the last 20 years of going into drum stores and wondering if I was missing anything by solely playing my Roland TD10 kit. ...
Ok, but everywhere I see you comment on DW, the point being made is cost, as if that is your top priority. There is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone can afford DW kits, and not everyone is willing to or able to justify them regardless of their income. And, of course, not everyone likes how they sound. I think that is the best reason not to buy them, but I don't see those people so often throwing mud. Now, when it came down to your own kit, it seems that cost was not the #1 issue. You bought yours for two of the same reasons I bought mine: sound and looks.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if you would be willing to share the cost of your gigantic kit so that we might compare it against mine. Not exactly apples to apples, but me might be able to get close if we leave off cymbals. I expect mine to be more expensive due to the finish... and because they are DWs. However, I know the cost of my kit were it done as a wrap, so that could get us that much closer. So, you're 14 piece shell pack versus my 12?
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The only mud I throw is the fact that they are way too expensive. It is a fact actually. We can not compare what I spent because I bought mine in Canada. I do know what I could of got if for in the states though. Oh, and by the way mine is not a wrap. It is a hand rubbed 8 coat lacquer finish over an arctic white paint. I don't do wraps. :)

In the states I could of bought 2 seven piece shell packs for about 4 thousand dollars total. That crazy rack alone cost me 3500 up here in Canada with all the cymbal arms and mounts. The funny thing is all the DW hardware is made in China. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :) Pretty sure they have quality labour there just like in North America. They jack up the price and put a DW stamp on it. Even their PDP rack is cheaper, just because it doesn't say DW. Same rack though. Marketing, marketing, marketing. Just want people to pick with there ears, and not by brand. Guess that is my main point. I will leave it alone.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:16 PM
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They jack up the price and put a DW stamp on it. Even their PDP rack is cheaper, just because it doesn't say DW. Same rack though. Marketing, marketing, marketing. Just want people to pick with there ears, and not by brand. Guess that is my main point.
:) :) Am I the only one who picks up on the conflicting statements here/ :) :) So you went for the DW branded product then;)

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:) :) Am I the only one who picks up on the conflicting statements here/ :) :) So you went for the DW branded product then;)

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Its starting to feel lile pile on time again. :)
Your right, I did contradict myself with the hardware :(
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Even their PDP rack is cheaper, just because it doesn't say DW. Same rack though.
A PDP rack is chrome over steel. A DW rack is stainless steel.
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The only mud I throw is the fact that they are way too expensive. It is a fact actually.
I think watching this video justifies the cost for DW's, it's pretty impressive.
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Well, you know, this is a "show your DW kit" thread, so you can probably see why you feel you're being piled on. BTW, I really dig your Mapex kit. Also, just so you know, I personally owned an '89 DW kit, so I feel that I can comment on the "owners" experience. I thought the fit and finish of that kit was outstanding, and I thought they sounded really good. I just happened to stumble onto the wonders of some rare Blaemire fiberglass shells, and my "sound in my head" drums had finally arrived.....But, that's another story altogether. ;-p
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:06 PM
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Its starting to feel lile pile on time again. :)
Your right, I did contradict myself with the hardware :(
Awe c'mon sticksy boy! No pile on here, just tweaking those nips a bit. Anyhow, our aquatic friend has just come to your rescue!

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Not to stir Brundlefly's pot any further, I'm just giving him a hard time, but a "minor fourth"?! Seriously lol... cant you just say a third.
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A PDP rack is chrome over steel. A DW rack is stainless steel.
Good. See I had an important reason to get the DW rack. :)
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Not to stir Brundlefly's pot any further, I'm just giving him a hard time, but a "minor fourth"?! Seriously lol... cant you just say a third.
Certainly. Some of them are a fourth, some are a third. Minor fourth feels like right in the middle. :)
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Certainly. Some of them are a fourth, some are a third. Minor fourth feels like right in the middle. :)
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The only mud I throw is the fact that they are way too expensive. It is a fact actually.
Its not a fact, as facts are not subject to relative points of view. So, we're saying 4 grand in the states for a reasonable representation of your kit? My 12 piece pack was 9 grand. The difference I paid got me all the little details that I wanted that aren't available from Mapex (which is a brand that I highly admire, btw.) Had it been a wrap, the price would have dropped to about $4,500.00. If we really are picking with our ears...
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:14 AM
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Even their PDP rack is cheaper, just because it doesn't say DW. Same rack though. Marketing, marketing, marketing.
Just an fyi...there's a $20 dollar difference in price between these 2 racks...hardly jacking up the price...
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Show Off Your DW Kit

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Originally Posted by Naigewron View Post
Wait, what?
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Sorry. I should have used a ;) instead. It's a stupid thing left over from a music theory class I took in college where the teacher had this thing about trying to keep the class on their toes. He would always refer to thirds as minor fourths, or ask the class to play a sharp 7th and crap like that. Honestly, I've never been able to get it out of my head. It's a curse, really.
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