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Old 03-16-2011, 09:03 PM
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Would like to hear who uses coated or clear Remo Emperors for batters?
And why?
I have a birch kit and was curious about which heads would be better, I understand it comes down to personal preference however wanted to hear some thoughts before I go spend!
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:10 PM
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For starters it's a clear choice if you wish to use brushes you shouldn't go with the clear choice.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:21 PM
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Hi there,

Well, I also have an all-birch kit (Mapex Meridian) and use Coated Emperors on everything as batters except on the snares. On the birch snare I use a clear emperor and on the steel snare Coated Ambassador:

Snare: Clear Emperor over Hazy Ambassador
Toms: Coated Emperor over Coated Ambassador
Bass: Coated Emperor over Powerstroke 3

On my previous kit (Pearl Forum) I had Clear Emperors on toms. They sounded fine but on this new kit I decided to try coated for a change and I really like it better. They feel different and have a rather "warmer" tone. (Of course, the drums are better also).

Anyway, I'm not being original, I'm just copying what Bonham used, and I can understand why he did. :)

So, it's coated for me.

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Old 03-16-2011, 11:29 PM
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Snare = Always coated.
Toms = I chop and change between both.
I don't use Emps on my kick....Always PS3's

I like the sound of both....which one I roll with depends on my mood at time of purchase and what I had on previously. Sometimes I want a change purely for the sake of change.....other times I think to myself, if it ain't broke....

My toms currently have coated Emps on them FWIW.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:31 PM
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clears came on my saturn and i really really like them. bright and full. i think i'll stick with them.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear????

I played yamaha recording custom birch kits for years. To me, the clear emps sounded best. I always use a coated head on my snare, but the toms get clears most of the time. I have coated emps on my vintage bonham kit and they sound really nice, and I play clear emps on my DW's now. I thought about trying coated emps on the DW's, but they sound so sweet as is, why change? Maybe someday I'll try them, but the clear heads give me that modern fat tom sound that's perfect for what I play.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:34 AM
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I have used clear emperors on toms (with clear ambassadors on bottom). They sound terrific. Great blend of full sound and roundness. I have clear pinstripes on top at the moment which are good, but I'm thinking of going back to clear Emps next time I change them, they're just more musical.

I have used coated emperors on metal snares and they sound great too. They focus the sound just enough and take a little of the ring off. I prefer ambassadors/G1 on wooden snares, they just seem more suited to that 'open' sound for me.

Have never done a direct comparison of coated vs clear on toms with the Emps though.

In general I think clear heads give a little more attack than coated heads.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:57 AM
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Coated Evans G2 for batter, and Clear G1's on resonant side. Classic!
Although I haven't tried Remo's, only for snare. But I'll do it on the new kit, Mapex Saturn, after summer... :)
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Old 03-23-2011, 03:24 AM
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I prefer clears on my toms, but haven't tried it on my snare.
Probably will soon though.
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Old 03-23-2011, 03:32 AM
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I started a thread a few days ago about using an Evans Clear EC2 SST on my snare just to see how it sounded. I had bought a set for my toms and they were a little to muffled for me but I kept them. I tend to change frequently. The 14 inch head sounds great, to me, on the snare. It is loud, dry, a little ring on my Vaughncraft steambent single ply snare. I don't use brushes often so it matters not and I think this is the only consideration for the snare head when choosing clear or coated.
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Old 03-23-2011, 04:59 PM
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I myself go the frosted route. I have an Evans G-Plus on the snare and "coated" EC2s on the toms, but they were the older version, and I ended up removing the foil rings on the underside, and now they have a feel and sound more like G2s.
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:30 PM
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I'm currently using clear emps and they're nice, but I'm going to go with coated G2's very soon
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:28 AM
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I'm completely sold on the coated Vintage Emps for toms. According to Remo, they're two plies of 7.5 ml film. as opposed to 7.0 on the standard Emp. I wouldn't have thought that would be a huge difference, but from my experience, it seems to be. I don't think they make them in clear.
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:31 PM
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Well it seems I may stay with the coated however changing brands!!
Apparently these new Evans G plus are the way to go. From what I have heard they are one of if not the best coated heads for toms to date (matter of opinion of course) Drums mag gives them a 5 out of 5 rating say they are the best Evans head. Anyone else try them and like them?

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I may stick with Remo.... hahaha
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear????

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Cheers,
I may stick with Remo.... hahaha
After all, it is Evans you're talking about. I'd stick with Remo too.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear????

Remo Ambassador x on the racks
and Vintage Emperor on the floor tom

sometimes I just can't even believe the sound coming from my toms...
crazy good....
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:37 PM
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Remo Ambassador x on the racks
and Vintage Emperor on the floor tom

sometimes I just can't even believe the sound coming from my toms...
crazy good....
Sorry mate you say the Amb X are the way to go???
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:38 AM
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Sorry mate you say the Amb X are the way to go???
Yeah? You're rocking Amb X's on your toms?
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear????

Clear on toms, coated on snare and bass.
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Old 03-25-2011, 08:09 PM
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Yeah? You're rocking Amb X's on your toms?
Still deciding, I currently have coated Emps, but am getting close to a change, and was curious about them..
Was also curious about the Evans G plus
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Old 03-25-2011, 09:33 PM
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Coated Emps rock - nothing wrong there...

Ambassador X's will be slightly louder and more resonant.

I found the Ambassador x too ringy for a 16x16 floor tom
and prefer the deeper + low-end from a 2ply vintage Emperor
on that drum.

I'm actually going back to vintage emps on all my toms because
I need to quiet down a bit - may even try them top and bottom
Like Bo Eder rolls...
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:30 PM
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Ok I started this thread quite a while ago, I have been using coated emperors forever it seems, I tried pinstripes on a recommendation and regretted it almost right away. So on went with what I know, the coated emps, and the coating came off (only on the 14) after one session, which has been a problem for me in the past (only on 14's though). I like the emperors lots so I decided to go with the clear. What I can say is, i like it! I really like the attack I get from these heads, I play a nice birch kit and the sound I get out of them with these over the coated is a welcomed change.
I still enjoy the warmth of the coated but I will say I won't be going back to them anytime soon.
Clear emperors over clear Ambassadors is my new favorite combo. At least for the next couple of months.
Thanks for the past advice people.
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:12 PM
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I played a gig Saturday night with a fairly dark stage. All the lighting was way out in front and then pointed back at the stage; no on stage/back of stage lighting at all. I was using my nice new (2nd hand) Sonors onto which I'd earlier in the day stuck clear ambassadors on. Could I see the drum heads in the dark? Could I f@#$...

It didn't cause a problem really but it was disconcerting not being able to see what I was actually hitting. I could see the drum, but not the head, so it was like the stick was hitting something invisible in mid air.

So, I think my next set of heads will be coated!
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:58 PM
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I made the mistake of putting clear Aquarian Performance II on my toms...never again will I use a clear 2-ply head. I guess these work for 16 year old kids who listen to Slipnot.

I'm going back to my trusty Studio-X Coated that I used for 15 years before I tried something new. Coated is the way to go for me.
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