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Old 02-26-2011, 03:07 AM
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Default Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

Honestly I prefer clear heads. Just because, when I play on my coated snare drum head, my drum sticks always get dirty and then it turns my cymbals dirty. Clear heads don't do that too me. Any way to prevent this problem? How could I clean, my drum sticks, or my drum heads or both? Also what do you prefer?
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:25 AM
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Coated for snare, and I switch back & forth on toms.

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Old 02-26-2011, 03:32 AM
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Coated all around.

I don't always do it, but I play with brushes and I don't like the attack of clear drum heads.

That and a brand new set of Coated Emperors looks beast.
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:36 AM
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Any way to prevent this problem?
Never given it a seconds thought to be honest. Who sees them but you?

What snare head are you using? Can't say I've ever experienced abnormal dirt build up due to my snare head. Nothing stays clean forever, but my snare head never causes my cymbals to get dirty....smokey bars, sweaty fingers et al have that covered.

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Also what do you prefer?
Always coated on a snare drum and either/or on my toms. Depends on my mood at time of purchase.
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:50 AM
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Coated on snare, give me ghost notes or give me death. Clear 2-ply on toms but have used coated 2-plies.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:01 AM
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It all depends on the venue, but a coated snare batter is a given.

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Old 02-26-2011, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

lol i didnt like the sound of my snare head before, because i couldnt tune it, so i went with a clear ambassador i had laying around. sounded pretty nice to me. but then i learned to tune and coated heads sound way. what kind of coated heads are you using?

i use black suedes so i dont get any kind of color or dirt stuff, other than the scuffing of the sticks on the heads making them shiny, but i dont really boterh, the head wear feels nice and smooth.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:16 AM
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I canít remember what I have on my tama, but itís coated. I think a genera of some sort.

Like others here, I go back and forth on the toms. Iím doing an experiment as we speak, in fact. I have changed out the first tom and the floor tom with EC2s from Evans, and left the middle tom with a clear G1 head. The difference is obvious, and I can see how folks would like both.

The EC2s warm things up but also muffle a tad, whereas the clear head rings out longer and is louder but produces more of a ďbongggĒ sound when hit. For recording I am really going to love those EC2s, for live play the louder ones may actually be better but I donít like their tone as much.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:20 AM
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Coated all the way around for me.
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:51 AM
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I decided, I will still keep a coated for the snare.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:33 AM
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I decided, I will still keep a coated for the snare.
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I think it's the most versatile way to go, especially for recording or playing live. Sometimes a clear head will be a bit brighter, but I think you lose some of the tone that way.
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:00 AM
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I'm pretty much a fan of coated heads. I have used clear, but keep coming back. I've never had an issue with dirt...
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Old 02-26-2011, 08:57 AM
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Coated, all the way!
Just ordered a set of Evans G2 Coated for my new kit (12", 14" 16")
Unfortunately I haven't played with Remo Emperor's coated yet...
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

Coated definitely on the snare - can't play brushes without the coating! And then when I go clear on the toms just because I want to see that deep red tone of the wood, I get a bunch of jazz gigs where I should have coated on the toms too!
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:22 AM
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Coated definitely on the snare - can't play brushes without the coating! And then when I go clear on the toms just because I want to see that deep red tone of the wood, I get a bunch of jazz gigs where I should have coated on the toms too!
VERY good point! The Mapex set I'm getting has BYOOTIFUL interior wood, and so I really like the clear heads that come on the kit. Of course, I won't know until i've had it a while if i really like them or not, but either way it'll be fun to see! :)
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

Personally I love the warm tone, look and feel of coated heads. I use em' on everything.

Plus I love the little brown spots in the middle of the heads when they get a bit worn.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

ive been playing clear tom heads for awhile mostly ec2s on my pdp maple kit but finally decided to give coated emperors a try and the sound is so warm and full i dont think ill be going back to clear...it sounds more full and pure to me
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

i just thought of something too:

the EC2 heads by evans are coated and warm but don't rub off on the sticks. they sound really good. GREAT heads for recording for sure. a nice warm tone without a whole lot of "muffling". i like em!
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

Coated all around, except for the snare resos and the batter on the bass drum. Brushes would be my excuse as well.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

I generally like Coated on snare. I tried to like clear on toms but I could not dial out the basketball like ping from the sound. So, I use either coated or white suede batters. I am seriously considering going to coated or white suede on the reso side as well
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Old 03-05-2011, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

I like them both.

Coated on snare always.

I actually prefer coated heads as tom batters for the warmth and thickness in sound
especially for studio work,
but every now and then I'll switch to clear for a brighter sound,
then I get tired of that sound and go back to coated.
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Old 03-06-2011, 05:39 PM
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I go with a coated snare head (Emperor or G2) and clear tom heads and kick drum head. I like the look of the kit with the snare having a coated head and the toms clear, but more importantly, for rock, the clear emps or G2's I use just sound deep and powerful with a nice attack. I like coated heads as well, but to me, the clear tom heads sound more modern and punchy for rock and roll.
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Old 03-26-2011, 07:14 PM
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coated for sure

evans g2 coated on the pearl kit
evans onyx coated on the mapex
evans power center reverse on snares
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Old 03-27-2011, 04:28 AM
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I prefer coated heads on snare and toms with a smooth bass drum head.

I agree PFOG's statement about the smokey bars, sweaty fingers...etc...

Dust on cymbals will quickly transfer to the stick tips and then to the coated surface.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:22 PM
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Just got my new DW Jazz series. Love it! 13", 16", 18", 24 bass, Black Ice w/ chrome hardware. Great resonance... addictive! The thing is that they come with coated heads on both sides. So I decided to try that... didn't like it. Switched to clear resos to open the sound a bit... NOT! Still didn't like the attack on coated. Decided to do an experience in putting the coated as a reso and a clear on top. Like it a lot. It send out a lot of opened-attack-but-rich-and-dark-boom I want out of such a big kit. Worth a try. Sorry for the bad pics, taken with a BB.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:57 PM
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I prefer clear heads on the toms, coated on the snare, clear on bass drum batters and black or coated on bass drum fronts. Peace and goodwill.
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:05 AM
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I use coated on everything. I prefer the sound and look of a coated head.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Coated or Clear? What do you Prefer?

Clear heads are far too high maintenance. If you don't tune them just right they sound awful. But coated heads sound good no matter what because they're somewhat self muffled. Not to mention I think they have better attack than clear heads of any kind. It's all just personal preference. The only heads I use clear are bass drum batters and gong drum heads.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:44 PM
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I use coated not only because they are easier to tune, they look better, and they sound better, but because you can also play brushes on them. I also find that if you hit softly on a coated head, you'll still make some noise, but on clear, I find you don't make any sound. Though coated will wear out in time, but this really only affects you playing with brushes. Though I'm sure other people think clear are better, it's personal preference. I use clear on Remo Pinstripe on my bass drum beater side, and coated Ambassador on my front side. I used to play Pinstripes on my Pearl set, they're good if you play rock, (in my opinion), they give a deep sound. Though I changed over because the floor tom sounded horrible no matter what. But it's personal taste. :)

EDIT: I use coated ambassadors on both sides of my drums.

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