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Old 11-24-2010, 05:21 AM
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It takes your 'stroke' and doubles it. That's cheating. Period. You hit one note yet it hits two. C'mon, guys, this shouldn't even be a debate.
I don't own a Dualist, I'm never likely to and really don't care either way.......but in the interests of a healthy debate, couldn't we say the same about a double stroke?

When played at speed, I drop my wrist once and rely on rebound for the second stroke....isn't that effectively "two for the price of one" also? What about a triple stroke....man, talk about greed......THREE individual hits from one humble stroke. :-)
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:36 AM
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Not bad. But, the double stroke, you still have to hit the head. The rebound wouldn't make a sound at all. The sound is made from the hand pushing the stick against the head. The rebound just made it possible to do it faster.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:49 AM
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Ok mate.....other than that, I got nothing.

Still....never let it be said that I won't enter into an argument with only half a clue. :-)
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Old 11-26-2010, 03:45 AM
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LOL. same here. That was good to use my comments saying that it "doubles your strokes" thus a double stroke....

I am just not a big fan of this thing, but never played it,so I probably shouldnt be criticizing it either, just something about it doesnt sit right with me.
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:03 AM
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I think I would only use one if I had more than enough money to buy one, broke one of my feet, or found it at a store.
I did, however, see a guy with 2 of the double dualist (which is 6 beaters) and it sounded...really really fast. Definetly sounded cool, but was a major downer since it was 6 beaters.
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I can see this issue going both ways. I've seen both good and bad reviews for the pedal, and I don't need to read through more than half a page of this thread to see how much flack the pedal really takes from the people that are opposed to what they perceive is something with which a drummer can "cheat."

I honestly don't care much for it. I've got an old Pacific double pedal, a Gibraltar drop-clutch, and an auxiliary pair of hi-hats that all suit me fine. I myself don't see the logic in buying a Duallist because I'm fine with what I have. Some people may want to be able to play grooves that would normally require two feet and still be able to control a hi-hat. More power to 'em!

Personally, I'm siding with the "that could lead to some nasty grooves" camp, because you can't really "cheat" with this - you're just adding to your stylistic arsenal just by nature of the fact that a Duallist allows you to free up your hi-hat foot to work with the hi-hat and not a second bass pedal.
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Old 05-25-2011, 04:17 AM
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I've been dying to try these, but I don't think I'd like to own them. I have enough trouble with the oldschool drum techniques. Having to use this pedal would just be one more thing to learn how to use. I prefer a good old fashioned double pedal any day. But if you know how to use this or have the motivation to learn, I don't see any negatives with it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:00 AM
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I can see this issue going both ways. I've seen both good and bad reviews for the pedal, and I don't need to read through more than half a page of this thread to see how much flack the pedal really takes from the people that are opposed to what they perceive is something with which a drummer can "cheat."

I honestly don't care much for it. I've got an old Pacific double pedal, a Gibraltar drop-clutch, and an auxiliary pair of hi-hats that all suit me fine. I myself don't see the logic in buying a Duallist because I'm fine with what I have. Some people may want to be able to play grooves that would normally require two feet and still be able to control a hi-hat. More power to 'em!

Personally, I'm siding with the "that could lead to some nasty grooves" camp, because you can't really "cheat" with this - you're just adding to your stylistic arsenal just by nature of the fact that a Duallist allows you to free up your hi-hat foot to work with the hi-hat and not a second bass pedal.
That's why I use a Duallist. I like being able to play hihat, wood block or tambourine with my left foot while pumping out 16ths or sick shuffles on the bass. I have three pedals for my left foot, but no double pedal. My right foot can do just about whatever I need it to with a Duallist.
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