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Old 05-06-2011, 07:06 PM
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Default Using coated heads on snare side...?

Yeah so I'm sure we all know how difficult it is to budget. I'm re-heading my Gretsch Catalina kit, and I've started by changing the batters of my two toms and snare to cheap Evans Genera G1's (Not what I wanted but I'm not looking to spend $300 for nice Aquarians). My kick got a SuperKick II thank God but I'm looking at resos now. My stock "Gretsch by Evans" aren't bad on the toms, and I have no gripe with the attractive logo kick stock, but the snare side head won't cut it for me. I bought the kit new but discounted from a guy who got it wholesale, and he tossed in an Evans G Plus Coated which I really don't know what to do with. However, I've been spending money right and left and although I know that just getting a Hazy 300 would probably be fine and cheap, I was curious as to whether the G Plus would make a good snare side head; if only to save me money. I've looked up a few discussions and they all say similar things - coated heads aren't ideal for snare resos. But the G Plus, although a little thick, is still only single ply and the mildly textured coating seems like it might be conducive to a little more friction and buzz when interacting with the snares. I know I'll be sacrificing the wetness of the drum almost entirely, but would it be crippling to the sound, or would it just be different. I'm concerned most about responsiveness. Advice?
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:27 PM
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Yeah so I'm sure we all know how difficult it is to budget. I'm re-heading my Gretsch Catalina kit, and I've started by changing the batters of my two toms and snare to cheap Evans Genera G1's (Not what I wanted but I'm not looking to spend $300 for nice Aquarians). My kick got a SuperKick II thank God but I'm looking at resos now. My stock "Gretsch by Evans" aren't bad on the toms, and I have no gripe with the attractive logo kick stock, but the snare side head won't cut it for me. I bought the kit new but discounted from a guy who got it wholesale, and he tossed in an Evans G Plus Coated which I really don't know what to do with. However, I've been spending money right and left and although I know that just getting a Hazy 300 would probably be fine and cheap, I was curious as to whether the G Plus would make a good snare side head; if only to save me money. I've looked up a few discussions and they all say similar things - coated heads aren't ideal for snare resos. But the G Plus, although a little thick, is still only single ply and the mildly textured coating seems like it might be conducive to a little more friction and buzz when interacting with the snares. I know I'll be sacrificing the wetness of the drum almost entirely, but would it be crippling to the sound, or would it just be different. I'm concerned most about responsiveness. Advice?
Snare side heads are really really thin. The really thick, heavy hitter snare sides are only 5 mils... G Pluses are 12. The standard is 3 mils, so that the snares actually respond when the top head is struck.

I've never done it myself but I'd say it's more than likely this will do nothing but choke your snares completely and have yourself an extremely dead sounding drum because the snares will choke any extra resonance you'd be getting with a thicker head on the bottom anyways.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:40 PM
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I've never done it myself but I'd say it's more than likely this will do nothing but choke your snares completely and have yourself an extremely dead sounding drum because the snares will choke any extra resonance you'd be getting with a thicker head on the bottom anyways.
Yeah actually I realized that the stick head is a 500 and already lacking the response I want, and I just tried out the G Plus and although I got a nice heavy crack with solid hits, the snare picked up nothing when I played lightly or ghosted. I guess it's obvious really but thanks for the info. Still, it makes me wonder what a thinner coated clear head might do. Just a G1 could be fun and worthwhile at some point.
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Old 05-07-2011, 01:42 AM
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If you're looking for that "I'm playing on a cardboard box" sound, go for it. You wouldn't be the first guy to use a batter head as a snare side head, but it most definitely ain't the norm......for good reason too IMHO.

The G1 won't sound a hell of a lot different to the G Plus on the snare side. Remember, the reason that snare side heads are so thin is to promote snare sensitivity....you can use a batter head if you like, they're your drums and I'm always one for experimenting. But in this case the reason for a very thin snare reso goes much further than just simple tradition.
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