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Old 03-13-2011, 03:33 AM
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Default Black Suede vs. Clear...hard decision

Should I go with Remo Black Suede Emperors or Clear Emperors? Its a hard decision and theirs pros and cons to each one

Black Suede:
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-sound of coated heads without the mess
-awesome look on drums
-Cons-
-more expensive
-less options available

Clear:
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-cheaper
-more options available
-Cons-
-some say clear heads have a more plastic-like sound compared to coated(verify?)
-looks average(black suede looks awesome)

Can someone help me make a choice?
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:59 AM
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Buy one of each & do a side by side Comparison!
It's the ONLY way you will hear & see the difference on your own Kit!!!


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Old 03-13-2011, 05:02 AM
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Well the price difference is only a dollar or two, so that doesn't really matter. Don't know what you mean by less options... And looks are always second, at least to me.

Whats important is the sound. The black suedes will give a more muffled sound, a deeper tone, and a punchy attack, while the clears will give you a longer sustain, a brighter pitch, and an open sound.
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: Black Suede vs. Clear...hard decision

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Buy one of each & do a side by side Comparison!
It's the ONLY way you will hear & see the difference on your own Kit!!!


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I only have enough money to get the propacks. Theres a music store local, but i dont know if they carry the black suede
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:07 AM
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Well the price difference is only a dollar or two, so that doesn't really matter. Don't know what you mean by less options... And looks are always second, at least to me.

Whats important is the sound. The black suedes will give a more muffled sound, a deeper tone, and a punchy attack, while the clears will give you a longer sustain, a brighter pitch, and an open sound.
The price difference is like $6-8 i think. But other than that, by more options, i mean theres more clear propacks available than black suede
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Black Suede vs. Clear...hard decision

They would look great on my white kit, but the inner ply of my kit is a beautiful dark walnut. I would not want to cover that up. Plus as someone else mentioned, the clear sustain better, and are brighter. I love the sound I have, and would not want to mess with it.
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:01 PM
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They would look great on my white kit, but the inner ply of my kit is a beautiful dark walnut. I would not want to cover that up. Plus as someone else mentioned, the clear sustain better, and are brighter. I love the sound I have, and would not want to mess with it.
That i agree with you. My drums are poplar, so its nothing beautiful. And as for the black suede being a deeper, darker tone, its not like an evans onyx head which is very dark. The black suede is supposed to have the same sound as coated without the mess of coating.
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:10 PM
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That i agree with you. My drums are poplar, so its nothing beautiful. And as for the black suede being a deeper, darker tone, its not like an evans onyx head which is very dark. The black suede is supposed to have the same sound as coated without the mess of coating.
You are very right about it not being that different. With your kit you might like the darker tone they give because of your wood characteristics. The walnut in my drums already give my kit a deep warn tone, so the heads help to bring out the brightness. Give the black a try. You will never know until you do. The best thing to do if you are not certain is to buy both kinds for one of your drums. Pick your favorite sounding one and compare.
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:53 PM
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No one sees the heads but you. Get what sounds best if you only have money for a pro-pack.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:25 AM
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i got the black suedes, for all of my toms, and they sound great, but i havent had other heads to compare them to. and nothing smudges onto or from those heads, you can see where the stick hits because it leaves a shiny mark, but thats typical of all drum heads.
they dont have a huge tuning range, but its pretty big, you can go from semi tight to pretty loose and still get a good sound.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:40 PM
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I would choose the clear heads, just because I like the fact that I can see all the way through my toms.

There, I said it :)
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:43 PM
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I would choose the clear heads, just because I like the fact that I can see all the way through my toms.

There, I said it :)
Another good reason. :)
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:01 PM
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I would choose the clear heads, just because I like the fact that I can see all the way through my toms.

There, I said it :)
Im seriously considering clears, but the black suedes would look so beast
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Black Suede vs. Clear...hard decision

On the Poplar shells, I'd suggest the Onyx or Suede heads.
Coated Pinstripes would sound good also.
Ebony Pinstripes have more "click" to the sound.
Coated G2's would be nice also.

On these shells, I would stay away from any edge control type heads like the EC's. PS3, etc...
A friend of mine has poplar shell drums, and they sounded awful with the Clear EC's and EC2's, and had no tuning range.
Those shells are pretty mid-rangy, so deeper sounding single, or 2 ply heads would be my choice. Pins, fiberskyn, G2's, Suede....those types of heads.

"Looks" are OK to go by if you know what different heads are capable of after experimenting, but it'd suck hearing crap sounding drums, even if they look cool.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: Black Suede vs. Clear...hard decision

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On the Poplar shells, I'd suggest the Onyx or Suede heads.
Coated Pinstripes would sound good also.
Ebony Pinstripes have more "click" to the sound.
Coated G2's would be nice also.

On these shells, I would stay away from any edge control type heads like the EC's. PS3, etc...
A friend of mine has poplar shell drums, and they sounded awful with the Clear EC's and EC2's, and had no tuning range.
Those shells are pretty mid-rangy, so deeper sounding single, or 2 ply heads would be my choice. Pins, fiberskyn, G2's, Suede....those types of heads.

"Looks" are OK to go by if you know what different heads are capable of after experimenting, but it'd suck hearing crap sounding drums, even if they look cool.

Just my 2 cents.
Hmm, you make a good point. But if they both sound good, id rather have the ones that look cool too.
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