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Old 02-11-2011, 09:32 AM
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Default muffling the reso head.!!

i am not a pro in tuning. this is my first head change.

i wonder can i reduce the sustain of the tom sound withiut making the sound flat.. by dampening the reso head?

i tried it by clay. seems to work. but i am gettin into a flat kind of sound as i go further with clay. or else i get a deep sound but a long duration one. :(

i use evans EC2 coated
and the factory tama batter head as the reso head that i got with my SWINGSTARS 2008 model
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Old 02-11-2011, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

That resonance and sustain is a good thing - it's what keeps the sound round and fat. If you dampen much, you get the flat sound. The effect is even worse when there is other music around you, and it is worse from the audience perspective, too. If the drums sound dampened to you, they'll sound like cardboard to the audience.

Let em sing a little, would be my suggestion.
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

If you wish to reduce the sustain, increase the tension of the reso head ever so slightly (<1/16th of a turn per lug).
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

you should think about changing your reso heads too..

i usually change my reso heads every year or two and my batter heads 3 or 4 times a year.


if you want to shorten the note you should have the reso head tigher than batter.

also don't tighten too much or you're gonna choke your head so much it will sound so horrible.

just don't forget the sound that you hear is a MUCH different sound to people in front of you. and especially if you are playing gigs with mics.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

long time ago, I had the same idea, so put remo ring inside the drum, sitting in the reso head. i had to cut them a bit to reduce the diameter so that they can move freely. the experiement turned out pretty well, they didn't cut much of the resonance but the focussed the sound a lot
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

if you want to shorten the note you should have the reso head tigher than batter.

A thinner reso (DIPLOMAT) will also shorten the note



long time ago, I had the same idea, so put remo ring inside the drum, sitting in the reso head. i had to cut them a bit to reduce the diameter so that they can move freely. the experiement turned out pretty well, they didn't cut much of the resonance but the focussed the sound a lot


This works excellent, though the stock sizes are too thick, you'll usually need to trim their width for reos and you might want your 12" to be thinner than your 10"

You can trim the rings with scissors, make sure you trim the inside of the ring, not the outside
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

I've posted this before, but it's been awhile ...

A little trick a seasoned drummer showed me, the quick and cheap way to tame a head.
These are found at any hardware store, they are the felt pads used to keep furniture
from scratching floors or lamps on tables and such. They come in multi-packs of various sizes
and have sticky on one side. This works kinda like the old head dampers you find on vintage drums,
you can use any and or multiple sizes to get the desired effect and they peel right off if you want to make a change.

I used this method to tame a 5x12 snare that just had way too much ring. First I just laid one or two on top of the
batter head to get an idea of the damping effect, you may want to just touch it with your fnger lightly to simulate the
effect of it actually being stuck to the head with the adhesive, once I got it close I removed the head and stuck it on
the bottom side, worked like a charm ... a reso head would be easier still.

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Old 02-14-2011, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

hey man
its mainly because of tuning, try tuning the reso head a bit tighter. or...
buy 2 ply heads with oil in between them
or external adjustable mufflers

but, dont muffle your toms: drums are made to ring...

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Old 02-14-2011, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Allyn View Post
I've posted this before, but it's been awhile ...

A little trick a seasoned drummer showed me, the quick and cheap way to tame a head.
These are found at any hardware store, they are the felt pads used to keep furniture
from scratching floors or lamps on tables and such. They come in multi-packs of various sizes
and have sticky on one side. This works kinda like the old head dampers you find on vintage drums,
you can use any and or multiple sizes to get the desired effect and they peel right off if you want to make a change.

I used this method to tame a 5x12 snare that just had way too much ring. First I just laid one or two on top of the
batter head to get an idea of the damping effect, you may want to just touch it with your fnger lightly to simulate the
effect of it actually being stuck to the head with the adhesive, once I got it close I removed the head and stuck it on
the bottom side, worked like a charm ... a reso head would be easier still.

Finally! I thought I was the only one!
I have a steel piccolo snare that rings WAY to much I put 4 of these on the bottom of the batter (one in each corner), and it sounds great! AWESOME idea!
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: muffling the reso head.!!

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Finally! I thought I was the only one!
I have a steel piccolo snare that rings WAY to much I put 4 of these on the bottom of the batter (one in each corner), and it sounds great! AWESOME idea!
One in each corner? On a circular drum? ;)

These seem like a really good idea to use as muffling though, although I just whack an aquarian o ring on my toms when needed or whatever they're called :)
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