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Old 12-28-2007, 09:10 PM
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Going back to some roots. Parents used to play Fleetwood Mac throughout the house. Definitely influenced me after I picked up sticks. Not only a well versed, musical drummer...thoughtful of every studio application and worldbeat influence, he is a terrific showman.

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Old 12-28-2007, 09:49 PM
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I can't. believe it I just did a thread search and this is the only thread on Mick Fleetwood.just goes to show why I think he is one of the most underrated drummers period.he's dynamics,technique & style is like no other drummer out there plus he had a little affair with Stevie Nicks back when she was still hot.If you listen to any of the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac they had a more raw sound then some of the wishey-washey stuff he did with Lynsey & Stevie.

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Old 12-31-2007, 02:19 PM
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If you listen to any of the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac they had a more raw sound then some of the wishey-washey stuff he did with Lynsey & Stevie.
Mick & John McVie were an incredibly tight drums & bass team. "Then Play On" is one of my favorite albums. When I heard "Rattlesnake Shake" I couldn't believe that was the same drummer who played "Don't Stop."
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:57 PM
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big fan of Fleetwoods playing. Always unpredictable, and totally original. Cant imagine any other drummer doing the snare fills on 'tell me lies'.
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:39 PM
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An awesome drummer for sure. His rock-solid beats and subtle nuances are priceless...
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:59 PM
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Simply amazing ... a band that's been around since 1967. Founded by the drummer, and their only remaining "original" member. 6 posts. Oh well......
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Old 11-24-2010, 03:06 AM
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Mick played his part, held down the time & for the most part stayed out of the way. He let their tunes speak for themselves. A perfect example of knowing when to use it... It took me a while to appreciate that.

As to why he only has 6 posts, well 7 now, the groove that fleetwood mac had was so good its almost easy not to notice that its there.
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Old 11-24-2010, 04:43 AM
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I like MF's style. He has a great balance between rock solid tightness and improvised nuances. Sound is great. Taste is great. Enjoyable approach, original ideas and subtle random touches.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:54 PM
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I'm not positive but I think he jammed with a 26" stainless Luddie kit back in the prime of Fleetwood Mac area & wasn't. afraid too swat them. That's needs kudos right there LOL

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Old 11-24-2010, 08:56 PM
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..... he jammed with a 26" stainless Luddie kit
Correct-a-mundo you are, at least in part. He had a few kits, that I remember, all with big kick drums. But lets face it, the guy is taaaaaaall. He'd make a 22" kick drum set look like a toy kit.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:24 PM
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Mick had a great feel about him.

No, he's not that technical. No, his time is suspect. But he make a track just feel like a million bucks.

I highly recommend reading his autobiography. It's very interesting.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:39 PM
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I wish their "Say You Will" drums were recorded with the same console settings that they had during the "Rumours" sessions!.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:17 PM
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Mick's a tribute to true rock origins.

Simple, musical, parts that were important to FW's music in the same way Ringo's playing was to the Beatles. We who play pop and rock have probably unknowinglt been influenced by his parts and playing.

I found it very interesting that in a trade mag interview he stated something to the fact that he couldn't be relied upon to do the exact part in the studio twice. His stuff was in the moment although he would never have survived as a true studio, gun for hire.

Thoughtful but not overly cerebral playing.

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Old 11-25-2010, 01:01 AM
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Mr. Fleetwood is feel above technique, makes him unique while playing for the song.
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:13 AM
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When I was absolutely first learning how to play, I always thought of Mick Fleetwood when I was about to do fills. He was the first (really only drummer) I watched extensively in my development due to my Mom having The Dance on VHS. He's always going to hold a special place for me.
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:41 AM
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I have struggled with covering the drum parts on every FM tune that I have ever played.
Mick is truly unique.
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:43 PM
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And well into his 60s he plays a mean Texas shuffle (a bit after 2 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0yKOJ3uGzU
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Old 12-07-2010, 05:24 PM
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My fave Mick drum track is "Straight Back" form the Mirage album. Great drum sound and powerful solid playing.

"Hypnotized" is also a great track.
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I have struggled with covering the drum parts on every FM tune that I have ever played.
Mick is truly unique.
You are absolutely correct. And he is a blast to watch live. I also have The Dance DVD and play it quite often. I love when they play Tusk and Don't Stop with the USC marching band and there are over a hundred percussion and brass musicians playing along with Mick when he gets up and smacks the gong!
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:08 PM
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one of my favorite snare sounds. maybe the most favorite.
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:23 PM
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For those of you that have not seen The Dance concert footage, check out this video of Don't Stop, accompanied by the USC marching band. It is awesome!

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Old 11-25-2014, 10:17 PM
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I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction with this Mick Fleetwood based question...

I've been trying to get my head around the tom part on 'You Make Loving Fun' but cannot figure out how he's keeping the high hat going while playing the toms during the chorus part. Is Mick playing left handed during some of his drum parts? It's like he's playing the quarter notes on the high-hat in 4/4, playing the snare on beat 4, but then there are these tom quarter fills in bars 2 and 4 while he keeps up the high-hat, if that makes sense (i'm new to explaining drum parts). I keep thinking it's a great piece of drumming.

Am I thinking along the right lines of what he might be doing? It seems complicated for a novice like me, all this swapping hands.

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Old 11-26-2014, 12:00 AM
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I love his drumming and the drum sound in Rumours...I always thought how tight the rhythm section was when I heard "Dreams"...the locking of John McVie and Mick Fleetwood ...however in the book 'making of Rumours' written by their engineer Ken Callait , says, he recorded a 4 bar loop of it and played it over and over....
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I've been trying to get my head around the tom part on 'You Make Loving Fun' but cannot figure out how he's keeping the high hat going while playing the toms during the chorus part. Is Mick playing left handed during some of his drum parts? It's like he's playing the quarter notes on the high-hat in 4/4, playing the snare on beat 4, but then there are these tom quarter fills in bars 2 and 4 while he keeps up the high-hat, if that makes sense (i'm new to explaining drum parts). I keep thinking it's a great piece of drumming.

Am I thinking along the right lines of what he might be doing? It seems complicated for a novice like me, all this swapping hands.

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DO you mean the part strating at 0:51 here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssXFJ1ZKsQg
It sounds like he plays right through on hats, snare, bass drum.
The 'toms' part (if they even are toms) sound to me like another percussive instrument overdubbed.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:19 AM
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I can't. believe it I just did a thread search and this is the only thread on Mick Fleetwood.just goes to show why I think he is one of the most underrated drummers period.he's dynamics,technique & style is like no other drummer out there plus he had a little affair with Stevie Nicks back when she was still hot.If you listen to any of the Peter Green Fleetwood Mac they had a more raw sound then some of the wishey-washey stuff he did with Lynsey & Stevie.

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Old 11-26-2014, 08:42 AM
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I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction with this Mick Fleetwood based question...

I've been trying to get my head around the tom part on 'You Make Loving Fun' but cannot figure out how he's keeping the high hat going while playing the toms during the chorus part. Is Mick playing left handed during some of his drum parts? It's like he's playing the quarter notes on the high-hat in 4/4, playing the snare on beat 4, but then there are these tom quarter fills in bars 2 and 4 while he keeps up the high-hat, if that makes sense (i'm new to explaining drum parts). I keep thinking it's a great piece of drumming.

Am I thinking along the right lines of what he might be doing? It seems complicated for a novice like me, all this swapping hands.

Cheers
Mick has very long arms. It would seem to me he's just playing the hi-hat with his right hand and his left is going from snare to toms simply by reaching under his right arm. He's got more reach than the average guy, and he's done this on other songs.

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DO you mean the part strating at 0:51 here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssXFJ1ZKsQg
It sounds like he plays right through on hats, snare, bass drum.
The 'toms' part (if they even are toms) sound to me like another percussive instrument overdubbed.
You may be right that it's an over dub.
On this "live" version from 1977, Mick isn't playing the toms, which leads me to believe it was over dub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoMWa3jRtLo

Other live versions are similar, in that he's just not playing the toms as on the record.

Most of Rumor was made by layer-ing track after track on top of each other, abet mostly in the guitar and vocal department.

And if you read Mick's autobiography, he often talks about doing whatever it takes in the studio to make a song happen, and he also talks about his love of drum ensembles. So over dubs and blending of different drums parts together to make one drum track is not out of the question for him.
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Thanks for the replies. It is the part starting around 0.51 on the Youtube vid. Someone said he wasn't playing this part on an earlier recording, I noticed that also. Watching the few later concert videos it's difficult to tell what he's doing, mainly because the cameras focus is on Christine Perfect most of the time...don't mind that though ;-)

Do you chaps think that this is more likely to be an overdub then? I've tried it open handed but my technique isn't that great. It kind of works to keep the hi-hat going but is difficult to change to and from left to right hand. Mind you, if Mick isn't doing it then it's probably not worth doing.
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:02 PM
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FWIW, when I play this song I play open handed. I find it so much easier to replicate the feel of that tom part when playing open. I also play Rhiannon open handed, although on the original recording it doesn't always sound like he's playing the hat anyway. The cymbals in general are really subdued on that tune, so I play eighth noted very quietly just to provide a good pulse. It works for the bands I've played with.
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Thanks for the replies. It is the part starting around 0.51 on the Youtube vid. Someone said he wasn't playing this part on an earlier recording, I noticed that also. Watching the few later concert videos it's difficult to tell what he's doing, mainly because the cameras focus is on Christine Perfect most of the time...don't mind that though ;-)

Do you chaps think that this is more likely to be an overdub then? I've tried it open handed but my technique isn't that great. It kind of works to keep the hi-hat going but is difficult to change to and from left to right hand. Mind you, if Mick isn't doing it then it's probably not worth doing.


Its clearly an overdub, at least he was being honest about it. Just think if he dipped the HH fader under the tom fill sections.


What's cool is the overdub goes virtually un noticed.
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Agreed. Most probably an overdub.

If I were playing it, I'd either ditch the eighths on the hats altogether......the toms are by far the most prevalent voice during that section......or just use my left foot to chick out the eighths (or even quarters.....whatever sounded best) if I really thought the hi hat pulse was lacking.

Punters sure as hell won't notice, so it'll come down to what you're more comfortable with or feel sounds the best.
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Agreed. Most probably an overdub.

If I were playing it, I'd either ditch the eighths on the hats altogether......the toms are by far the most prevalent voice during that section......or just use my left foot to chick out the eighths (or even quarters.....whatever sounded best) if I really thought the hi hat pulse was lacking.

Punters sure as hell won't notice, so it'll come down to what you're more comfortable with or feel sounds the best.
Totally agree with this. I saw one cover that wasn't very good as the guy is playing over the original track so you can't tell exactly what he's playing. Anyway, he was definitely using left foot to click out the hi-hat 8th notes. It sounded cool like that.

Ditching the hi-hat though is probably easiest unless you can play open handed well enough (I can't). I would be loath to loose the tom part is it does add a lot. Much prefer the later versions of You Make Loving Fun.
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And if you read Mick's autobiography, he often talks about doing whatever it takes in the studio to make a song happen, and he also talks about his love of drum ensembles. So over dubs and blending of different drums parts together to make one drum track is not out of the question for him.
Its an excellent autobio. I've read a few by drummers and his is right up there. Totally honest about his playing, including handicaps, and his addictive ones as well.

And yes, I think he mentions in there how they did 150 takes of one instrument for something on Rumours...he admits the total excess of the 70's, and the influence of drugs on this kind of decision making. They ended up keeping track #4 (out of 150).
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