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Old 10-14-2010, 04:40 PM
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There are many dislikers not haters, which is fine. The word - dislike - fits much better, if you want to take it as an personal issue with T.B....then hate him.
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Old 10-14-2010, 05:00 PM
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I don't hate the guy either. I just get tired of seeing his face all over everything that has to do with drums. Does Zildjian not have anybody else on their artist roster to market their product other than Barker? You pick up a drum mag. and somewhere in the mag. will be Barker. Then i get on Youtube to see what other drummers are doing and more than half of them are setting up their kits like him and trying to do their best Barker impression. It just gets very old.

As i said i don't hate the guy and he has certainly earned what he has. From what i understand he is a great dad and husband and is obviousely hard working. Drum wise i would say he is better than some but not as good as most. Blink has some songs that i like but not enough to say that i'm a fan of the band. I guess i'm just tired of seeing the guys' face plasterd all over everything and his fans ( what i like to call "Travis Nation") is very annoying.
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:44 PM
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do not hate the guy. i think he is a great drummer w/ some great chops, cool ideas that mesh great w/ punk, rap, DJ scratching & other break-beat type stuff. the only critical thing i can say is that he needs to give up smoking pot & looking obviously stoned in 1/2 the print ads he is in.

i do hate his troll / fans that post on youtube.com. find any popular / hi-ranked video of Vinnie, Bonham, Peart, etc. at least one of the comments will be "this drummer sucks compared to TB" and so forth as a flame war starts for no reason.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:10 PM
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Success always polarizes opinion.

You get all out lovers and of course all out haters who fuel
each others love/hate for the person in question with there
extreme views, opinions and arguments. The cycle
feeds itself!

You often find the man himself is just getting on with business
and doesn't give two hoots about the whole thing.

Thankfully we're a worldly and intelligent bunch here at drummerworld
and are able to notice the individuals (be it TB, Ringo Starr or any other
drummer for that matter) contribution to music! ;-)
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:17 PM
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I can honestly say I have never heard him play. Why you may ask? Because I am not into Punk music. There are plenty of good drummers out there in many genres but I can't get past the music. all the metal and death metal etc etc etc. Play me a nice melody without screaming into the mic and I may listen. Now you know why.
I hear ya. Good drummer but the music that does not speak to me. Will his music age the way other classic bands have aged? I don't know.

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Old 10-19-2010, 08:26 PM
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I can honestly say I have never heard him play. Why you may ask? Because I am not into Punk music. There are plenty of good drummers out there in many genres but I can't get past the music. all the metal and death metal etc etc etc. Play me a nice melody without screaming into the mic and I may listen. Now you know why.
same here, one exception Ronnie James Dio, nice melody though
eg: Rainbow Eyes from Rainbow's Long Live Rock n roll- thankfully no drums in that song :)
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Old 10-19-2010, 08:58 PM
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I actually like Travis' playing with Blink 182. I'm not into punk or pop-punk, but I think he did some very creative stuff with them. I wouldn't necessarily think he's got too great time though.
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that saccharine-sweet singer is more grating to me than cookie monster vocals.
Honestly, I always think all those punk singers sound exactly the same, don't they? As if either they're all one and the same guy, or they try to clone each other's voices...!
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Simply put people hate Travis Barker because he's popular.
That's quite a silly thing to do. I don't think Travis (or most of the popular drummers for that matter) deserve to be hated for their popularity, because they simply aren't able to help it. It's not them claiming they're the best, it's their fanboys.
Mike Portnoy comes to mind: I once read in an interview answering the question what instrument he played: Piano, Bass, Guitar and Drums (I believe), but none of them really good (including drums!!!) It's not a quote but it must have been something like that. How humble, and how opposite to what many fanboys of his are claiming all the time and all over youtube!
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:00 PM
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You know, being great isn't really anything the same as being popular. And vice versa. The most popular drummer isn't necessarily the best. Except if you define "greatness" by popularity. Which is of course one way to go.
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:28 PM
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In my mind Travis Barker is this generation's Tommy Lee.
That's totally true!
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:38 PM
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At some point I realized that I like all drummers just because they're drummers. I'm not a huge fan personally of Travis, but I can respect what he does.
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Old 10-20-2010, 12:00 AM
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Swiss,

When I wrote that, I had this feeling that I should have changed it. I don't hate him as a person, his idiotic fanboys just tainted me on him. I can't stand the sight of him because I mentally project all of the moronic things that those tube trolls say onto him. I know it's not fair, but it's just a knee-jerk reaction type of thing. I'm just disgusted by him because he is everything that the uninformed bigmouths worship. Plus I always thought he looked like a world class tosser. Of course there is always the double handed cymbal bashing, convulsions, perpetual shirtlessness, and general empty showboating to look down upon.

On the other hand I was very impressed with his marching snare solo............until I saw about 30 guys in Blast Drum Corps totally blow him out of the water, simultaneously.

I hope I seem (slightly) more sane now.

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Old 10-20-2010, 12:29 AM
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I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:07 AM
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As some here have said he is certainly a humble man and quite devoted to his kids. Interestingly he has recently expressed a passion for Jazz. His own father brought him up to appreciate lots of different musical genres from an early age and exposed him to a wide range of recorded materials and musical experiences.

He said in an interview recently that when he retires, that he would like nothing more than to concentrate on playing only Jazz. His other passion is for his collection of classic Cadillacs.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:52 PM
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im a teenager...and I meet a drummer my age, finally some to have 12-hour talks about drums
so I ask him: whos your favourite drummer ? (please not travis barker, please not travis barker...)

its travis barker

DOH!!


no, but seriously, his solos are really bad, yes its blink, but he can switch bands anytime he wants, and his style looks really stiff and uncofortable (if it works for him, i would have broken my spine by now), theres no flow Id say, and his kit is so small...

kind of feel sorry for him though, he might be one of the most famous drummers around, but hes also one of the most hated
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:22 PM
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no, but seriously, his solos are really bad, yes its blink, but he can switch bands anytime he wants, and his style looks really stiff and uncofortable (if it works for him, i would have broken my spine by now), theres no flow Id say, and his kit is so small...
I NEVER thought I'd see myself defending him, but here I am. I always thought that he looked really cool playing the way he does. It gets people's attention, which is why he's so famous. It's not really ergonomic, but it's horses for courses. He doesn't really groove as well as most of the drummers I like, but it's fine for that music. And having a small kit doesn't make you a bad drummer, just like having a big kit doesn't make you a good one.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:07 PM
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I was heavily involved in acting in high school. During that time I hosted my school's talent show, introducing the acts and other assorted MC shtick (see avatar picture). Well, there were several bands playing that night and, just getting into drumming myself, I talked to the drummers a bit. They all seemed to really like this Travis Barker fellow (I hadn't yet heard of him at the time). So the first band went up and played. The drummer (wearing the requisite sideways hat and blazed facial expression) played WAY over everything, he was just pounding the crap out of the drums. All you could hear was him, that was it. This continued through the whole show. So I go home and look up Travis barker on You Tube. It all made sense. One of several reasons why I can't stand Travis Barker. I know it's not his fault and I don't hold it against him personally.

I don't hate Travis Barker, I just don't think that he deserves to be worshiped.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:08 AM
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When I first started playing Travis Barker and Tre Cool were my biggest influences. I think Travis Baker is extremley creative and very influential. I think the reason he is "hated" by so many is because people who dont even play drums know who he is, therefore, he has a lot more popularity over..steve gadd...etc. I also think that people belive that he has the mind set that he is better than everyone else when his pesonality is quite the opposite. Personally I think he is a fantastic drummer on the rock/punk seen.
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Old 10-27-2010, 01:34 AM
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I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.
I know we have our differences, but as a teenager I must say that that's spot-on.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:11 PM
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I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:29 PM
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I don't hate him either. As many have said here he supposedly has a nice guy reputation.

Yeah it's the issues about the psychotic youtube fanboys and an over zealous press machine that supply him any negativity he might experience. The fanboys he can't help...the press agent he can control since his people are the ones paying for all that. So yes it's fair to say that he's partially responsible for his less than favorable rep with a small segment of the drumming community, who not coincidentally also comprise largely of fanboys representing heroes of sometimes equally suspicious iconic status.

So I guess the bigger question should be why should anyone care?

I guess with me /and again this has little to do with Barker himself/ are how all these people cite as an attribute his supposed luring a generation of young people to drums as if the drums themselves weren't enough of a calling card.

See, I think the last several decades have always had this magnet drummer who does this and at least in my mind the bar seems like its probably different than before.

In the 30s and much of the 40s it was Krupa playing the role as Travis...a first class musician on all counts.

The late 50s saw Morello assuming a lot of this and in the 60s Buddy Rich seems to have been the drumming god entry point for newbies wanting to be drummers. Now notice how I didn't say drummers wanting to be integrated into a popular / cool band. So to me Ringo, Moon, and Baker contributions represent a different dynamic.

Steve Gadd and Bonham's legacy seemed to be performing some of this role during much of the 70s...no doubt about the basics there.

Then I think we had a different bar.

Lee in the eighties. Did anyone see that reality show a couple of years back where he almost didn't make the University of Nebraska drumline as a quad player of all things.

Tre Cool/Grohl in the nineties...

Finally Barker.

So no offense, but isn't that a more disappointing standard for which to aspire? And in all honesty, wouldn't a clear headed and rational person like Travis Barker say the same thing?
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:01 PM
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What i have found out regarding this subject, is that not many people actually hate him per say. What they, including myself, hate is the fan boys that go on YouTube, find a video of Steve Gadd, Vinnie, Buddy, or any GREAT drummer, and say "He sucks, Travis FTW" or some silly ignorant comment like that..

I personally think hes a great drummer, but in the great wise words of "The 40 year old Virgin"..

"They are putting the p@#$y on a pedestal.." The p%$#y being Travis Barker..

btw i aint calling TB one, Im just saying they idolize him for the wrong reasons..
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:14 PM
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The guy is a big figure in today's pop culture that's why he gets so much attention as a drummer. He's good, but there are soooooooo many other drummers today who are better. They just don't get all the attention like he does 'cos they're not pop celebs.
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I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.
Agreed agreed agreed! These two words are so overused, there meaning has become basically pointless...

As for Travis, he has a large fan base and is very good at what he does. But arguing the fact that he is the best drumming isn't really a good thing to discuss, as really, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, in reality, it is impossible to name one drummer as the best, because each person in unique in there own style and how they express themselves with music.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:00 PM
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It annoys me when I ask my non-drummer friends who they think the best drummer in the world is, and they come out with Travis Barker. He is an OK drummer, but no way near as the technical greats such as Jojo Mayer and Johnny Rabb!!! His popularity makes people think he's totally awesome, but its just the wrong way of looking at it. :(
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:40 AM
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What i have found out regarding this subject, is that not many people actually hate him per say. What they, including myself, hate is the fan boys that go on YouTube, find a video of Steve Gadd, Vinnie, Buddy, or any GREAT drummer, and say "He sucks, Travis FTW" or some silly ignorant comment like that..

I personally think hes a great drummer, but in the great wise words of "The 40 year old Virgin"..

"They are putting the p@#$y on a pedestal.." The p%$#y being Travis Barker..

btw i aint calling TB one, Im just saying they idolize him for the wrong reasons..
Couldn't have put it better myself. Also, its not only the fanboys, its the general public. Most non-musicians, who have no clue on drumming, when the find out i play the drums, ask: "oh have you heard travis barker, he's amazing". I then tell them that i think he's a good drummer but nothing special, and show them a couple of clips of Gadd, Buddy Rich, Bonham or Jojo Mayer, and only then do they realise how misinformed they were.
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I was at a mates this past weekend and his 9 year old daughter was telling me what a great drummer Justin Beiber was. I showed her the Vinnie/Gadd/Weckl vid from the Buddy memorial concert. I wasn't at all surprised when it didn't convince her.

Same argument.......different generation.

Unfortunately, this isn't going to end with Travis or Joey Jordison. We'll be getting the same giggle in 20 years time too, I assure you.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:19 AM
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I was at a mates this past weekend and his 9 year old daughter was telling me what a great drummer Justin Beiber was.
Surely you mean Travis Barker. Although the same could be said about Beiber when it comes to the music industry. That Vinnie/Gadd/Weckl video is absolutely amazing, it's a real shame when the average person cannot appreciate such things but is impressed by musicians like travis barker, beiber and nearly every other top40 pop sensation.
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Surely you mean Travis Barker.
Not necessarily. Bieber also plays, kinda.
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I wish I did mate.....I'm not nearly as offended by Travis as some of our drumming fraternity brothers are.

No, I definitely meant Justin Bieber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcVgrfjyjhQ

I just thought it was a funny connection. Doesn't matter what generation, there will always be a tendency to overstate mediocrity.
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I wish I did mate.....I'm not nearly as offended by Travis as some of our drumming fraternity brothers are.

No, I definitely meant Justin Bieber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcVgrfjyjhQ

I just thought it was a funny connection. Doesn't matter what generation, there will always be a tendency to overstate mediocrity.
Wow, that video made me laugh, as did some of the comments. Did not know Beiber (kind of) plays the drums.

I agree with you that there will always be a tendency to overstate mediocrity, but has it always been to the extent that it is now? With the internet, anybody can put up a video or a recording, and therefore alot of talent gets hidden amongst all the crap. The problem with today is that all of these labels, magazines and companies heavily promote artists such as Beiber and Barker because their fan base will buy absouletly everything and anything with his name on it. It was the same thing with the Pitch Black cymbals, terrible cymbal but got heavy promotion with Jordison and was the only reason they were reasonably successful in terms of sales. Has this always been the case, or am i just too young to know what happened in past generations haha.
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Now, Justin Bieber never bugged me too much. He was really lucky and got launched into stardom without the help of Disney's Genetic Child Star programming, for which I respect him. He's a teen idol though, nothing more, nothing less.

But, Please Mr. Beiber, play drums at home, wood shed, learn more than just triplets and then maybe start playing solos.

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I don't "hate" TB I just hate the fact that most people always connect popularity with ability when the two are almost always seperate from each other.

I also hate fanboys who have to go troll amd say that Joey or Travis are the best drummers ever when the two of them are not even close.

BTW I love Joey and he is one of the main reasons I started playing drum set.

And can Justin Bieber just go away already so the new annoying Disney sensation can appear.
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And can Justin Bieber just go away already so the new annoying Disney sensation can appear.
lol......ever tried arguing that point with a 9 year old? :-)
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And can Justin Bieber just go away already so the new annoying Disney sensation can appear.
Justin Beiber isn't with Disney and his popularity completely toppled the Jonas Brothers. That's the one thing that I respect him for.

Sorry to help this thread get so far off topic.
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Justin Beiber isn't with Disney and his popularity completely toppled the Jonas Brothers. That's the one thing that I respect him for.
lol. yeah i know he's not with disney its just the generic think to say about the cookie cutter pop stars that little children,mainly girls, adore.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:24 AM
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Just my opinions on travis barker here...
Good drummer i think, but doesnt deserve the praise he gets i reckon, hes a decent punk drummer from what ive saw.
But come on, even for a punk drummer hes nowhere near the best, brooks wackerman could teach him a thing or two ;)

I like him personally, i just cant stand the fans who's youtube names are TRAVIS4LYF and comment on ever buddy rich video saying how much buddy sucks compared to travis. Travis would laugh in their face if he heard them say that though!
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:56 PM
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I feel that Travis Barker receives a lot more attention than most because he looks so cool behind the drums. I mean, the guy has talent but it's because he makes it look so easy and fun that he gets most of his praise.

Saying that though, I've just recently recorded and uploaded video drum lessons for three different Blink 182 songs, have you tried playing what he does?! Man, Travis can play!

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Old 12-14-2010, 09:26 PM
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Well...where to start.I think Travis really should start listening more to the greats and a little less to his hype.Dynamics ,touch,feel,and swing are not really in his toolkit.He probably has the talent to be a good drummer instead of just adequete for just a single style of music.
Sorry Travis fans ..he really dosen't own anybody.One trick pony who repeats all he knows every 5 minutes of playing time.
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:43 AM
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The guy is OBVIOUSLY doing something right. Travis is the perfect example of someone who has worked hard, achieved his personal goals, and has been the best he can be...and getting better. Not once have I heard a remark from Travis about him thinking that he is a drum god, or thinks he is the best drummer ever. In my opinion, to think that he gets too much credit is just being plain jealous. Like I said, he's obviously doing something right.

Oh, but being in the biggest modern-day punk-rock band does draw an exquisite amount of attention to the drummer. Collaborating with some of the biggest names in hip-hop also exposes him to many people who otherwise would probably never hear of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzTv9S6qHuA

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Old 12-28-2010, 07:33 AM
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I think people aren't paying so much attention when they say TB is all speed and nothing else. I hate fast punk-poppy drumming because it's boring and sounds pretty unmusical to me on its own, but there is definitely a bit of personality with his playing in B182 that deserves recognition. Also, the dude doesn't carry himself in some superior way, he seems pretty level-headed. He just happens to be massively appealing to people who are excited by what he plays, I don't think he himself is necessarily a gimmick. This is coming from someone who has absolutely no interest in Blink 182-ish drumming.
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