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Old 10-26-2010, 08:59 PM
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So I'm heading down to the music store today and planning on spending over $600 bucks... but NOT on drums, drum equipment, or any such. I'm reviving my long-dormant bass-playing and picking up a beautiful Squier Deluxe Active IV Jazz Bass and a 75-watt combo amp, as an early birthday and retirement present.

I was originally just going to make this a "wow, look at my new toy" thread, but realized that posting pics of a bass on DW might seem... odd. So I'm throwing it open in the Off-Topic Lounge. I know many of you are also multi-instrumentalists, so let's see what (besides drums) you guys play, and the more striking (positively or negatively), the better!

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Very awe-inspiring, DED. Nice Strat... what is the other guitar and the bass hanging there?

Here's a much better picture of the bass and it's new proud papa this afternoon.
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Fingerprints are killing me alparrott! I like the look without the pickguard.

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I suppose I've had it for about 10 years now. Gets way more love than my kit does these days.
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Ditto on the fingerprints, man. That was straight out of the case and into a picture. Then I'm like, "argh", and nicked a piece of chamois from my wife to keep in the case. I like yours, how elegant.
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Very awe-inspiring, DED. Nice Strat... what is the other guitar and the bass hanging there?
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Thanks.

The guitar in the forefront is a Line 6 Variax. For studio work, it's great because it can sound like a dozen different guitars. But the electronics can be temperamental. Always stays in tune though.

The bass is a Schector. A friend bought it, then needed the cash, my wife wanted to learn to play it, but then we had kids. So there it sits!
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(the pickups in these guitars have been swapped round)


And here is the one I really wish I hadn't sold at the beginning of last year:



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My home studio computer setup (for those who haven't seen it) and my keyboard. We have a really nice piano downstairs too. I've really just started learning the keyboard properly, I can play stuff like Gary Jules and Tinie Tempah though...
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Look how many Basses. Bass and drums go hand and hand.
I dont play bass but i've always wanted to learn.
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I dont play bass but i've always wanted to learn.
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The only thing I know how too play besides the drums is "the Radio" LOL

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No time like the present man ;)
Yeah, maybe some day. Its gonna take alot of patients though.
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@Eddie: I like that clear Jazz Bass. And oddly enough, I nearly went for a Peavey Millennium instead of what I ended up with... decent sounding basses for the price.
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DED, Jay and Eddie - great setups. I've love to have the space and neighbour situation to have a music room.

I don't have a pic of my keyboard, except in this screenshot from a vid (shame about the hair) ... it's an old Technics KN720 I bought from a pawn shop some years ago. It sounds surprisingly good, esp the "Rock Organ":
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Look how many Basses. Bass and drums go hand and hand.
I dont play bass but i've always wanted to learn.

Played bass for many years now ...
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Also Have a Musicman Bongo 5 string fretless bass since this pic was taken

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Very good to hear youre learning to play the drums Kenny.
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DED, Jay and Eddie - great setups. I've love to have the space and neighbour situation to have a music room.
Yeah neighbours can be a problem hehe.

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Clear jazz bass? By that i suppose you're on about the one that isn't butchered or anything?

The peavey milennium was ok. I wasn't so keen on the bridge or the knobs though. I did miss having a peavey though hence why i bought the other one lol.
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Clear jazz bass? By that i suppose you're on about the one that isn't butchered or anything?
Ah cripes, how drunk was I when I looked at that pic? The way it looked when I first saw it, I thought you had a Jazz Bass with an acrylic see-through body... probably because I just noodled on one at GC. Now that I look at it, it looks like it lost a massive street fight with a box of spraypaint cans and a squad of machete-wielding thugs... But anyways... lol
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Ah cripes, how drunk was I when I looked at that pic? The way it looked when I first saw it, I thought you had a Jazz Bass with an acrylic see-through body... probably because I just noodled on one at GC. Now that I look at it, it looks like it lost a massive street fight with a box of spraypaint cans and a squad of machete-wielding thugs... But anyways... lol
yeah that was the idea hehe. If i ever have the privilidge of being in a song video then I think I am going to take it along to the shoot lol. Also very coherent post considering you were drunk ;)
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Al, DED, jer, Eddie, Homeularis, Kenny, Abe - all these drummers who play guitar or bass!

I tried for 20 years on and off to play guitar - and I have an acoustic and electric at home, but I simply can't hold down all the strings to play clean barre chords. Also, the strings kill my fingers. I learned to play quite a few songs from songbooks in that primitive noob way but it's just not my instrument.

Bass is even worse on the fingers ... I can last about 30 seconds. Drums are so much more gentle :)

PS. I agree, Eddie, Al seems to hold his booze pretty well!
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Al, DED, jer, Eddie, Homeularis, Kenny, Abe - all these drummers who play guitar or bass!

I tried for 20 years on and off to play guitar - and I have an acoustic and electric at home, but I simply can't hold down all the strings to play clean barre chords. Also, the strings kill my fingers. I learned to play quite a few songs from songbooks in that primitive noob way but it's just not my instrument.

Bass is even worse on the fingers ... I can last about 30 seconds. Drums are so much more gentle :)

PS. I agree, Eddie, Al seems to hold his booze pretty well!
It takes a few months to get used to it i found but eventually your fingers harden. Well that's my experience anyway. Also drumming is still murder on your fingers, just a different part of them though ;)
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Al, DED, jer, Eddie, Homeularis, Kenny, Abe - all these drummers who play guitar or bass!

I tried for 20 years on and off to play guitar - and I have an acoustic and electric at home, but I simply can't hold down all the strings to play clean barre chords. Also, the strings kill my fingers. I learned to play quite a few songs from songbooks in that primitive noob way but it's just not my instrument.

Bass is even worse on the fingers ... I can last about 30 seconds. Drums are so much more gentle :)

PS. I agree, Eddie, Al seems to hold his booze pretty well!
i see exactly what you mean.

but being a guitarist, i looked at the problem differently. rather than seeing drums as being more gentle, i was heard to exclaim ĻPLAYING DRUMS IS MESSING UP MY FINGERS !!!!!!!!!! I CANīT HAVE THIS !!!!!!!!! GOD I LOVE THE DRUMS, BUT IF ITīS GONNA DO THIS TO MY FINGERS.......(pant, pant, gasp bewieldered look around).....I CANīT HAVE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!

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it appears to me that drumming elongates the fingers and puts a weird crimp in the hands / fingers (from smashing the sticks into the underside of my fingers) from impact - making it very difficult to be Ļon pointĻ (like a ballet dancer) with my fingertips when i go to guitar.

NOT COOL MAN !!!!!!!! NOT !!!!! COOL !!!!!!!!

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solution: well i love the drums and canīt stop...so i:

1. massage the crimp out of my hand, stretch / flex however it works for you...
2. wait a while after playing drums before playing guitar...possibly going so far as to have guitar day and drum day

these are occupational hazards that one gets used to if one has been doing it for a while.

for example, i have gotten used to having a crescent shaped dip in my index fingernail. itīs been there since i was 15 : ) it comes from striking the strings with a pick. after the pick hits, my fingernail brushes against the string causing said crescent shaped indentation on my index nail.

now if someone from another profession were to take up guitar, or only occasionally play...AND they love their nails (like i used to up until age 15) they may be heard to say ĻOH NO, IḾ NOT HAVING THIS !!!!!!!!!! LOOK WHAT IT DID TO MY NAIL ??????????? DO YOU SEE THIS ?????????? JESUS CHRIST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have also gotten used to having long nails on my right hand for fingerpicking and shorter nails on my left hand. as unsightly as it may (or may not) be.

hope this helps.

also it helps to know that it takes time to learn to play with fingers on point. a ballet dancer does not start on the toes...they work up to it. same with a piano player or guitarist. we all start with our fingers flat and work up to point. no matter how many grizzled veterans scream and glare at you that you SHOULD BE ON POINT and that you HAVE NO TECHNIQUE !!!!!! and they should know better. just because someone is good at what they do....doesnīt necessarily qualify them to teach.

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Al, DED, jer, Eddie, Homeularis, Kenny, Abe - all these drummers who play guitar or bass!

I tried for 20 years on and off to play guitar - and I have an acoustic and electric at home, but I simply can't hold down all the strings to play clean barre chords. Also, the strings kill my fingers. I learned to play quite a few songs from songbooks in that primitive noob way but it's just not my instrument.

Bass is even worse on the fingers ... I can last about 30 seconds. Drums are so much more gentle :)

PS. I agree, Eddie, Al seems to hold his booze pretty well!
I'm pretty functional. This comes in handy on the job as a quality control inspector at a plastics explosives company.

I'm currently working my way through the Rush songbook. By far the most challenging thing I've ever played on the bass is "YYZ", with the three solo breaks in the middle. A friend also just clued me into Primus' remake of Black Sabbath's "N.I.B." where Les Claypool takes on Geezer Bulter's original bass solo... wow. I'm also just picking random stuff off the iPod, and either transcribing it by ear or looking up the tabs online. I have my acoustic guitar nearby to pick out the chord structures, too. What with being on three months' paid vacation, it's like a muso's dream. I actually don't even have my drums set up right now...!

I'm reminded of what Jimmy Chamberlain said about playing Rush songs on the drums, and it's true on the bass as well: "If you could play those songs to a degree of proficiency, you knew you could play pretty much anything". While I'm not quite ready to replace Patitucci anytime soon, I am auditioning for a band tomorrow - - on bass! Knocking down those songs gives me hope to do well. Fingers crossed, and all that.
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So ... Unfunky ... you are wondering if my barre chord issues were because of the drumming? Interesting theory ... and good point about nails ... it's a big issue for me.

Eddie, while the fingers harden, I'm not sure I want to harden my soft fingertips any more than I want to wreck my nails lol ... no, I'm not a princess, just been single for over a year :)

I do remember having some nasty blisters on my thumbs while gigging on drums back in the 80s when the stage monitors were being unkind, but these days in my laid back band I'm just doing tappity-tap and barely even break a sweat (as opposed to the 80s, being blinded by the sweat pouring into my eyes). I played keys in a couple of little bands a few years ago but had to go back to drums because it was killing my fingers ...

Good luck with the bass audition, Al! Will this be the acid test for the Rush theory? :)

As for the thread, I also have a range of percussion toys at home. When I was young and living with my parents I had access to my sister's neglected piano and clarinet, which were fun to dabble on.

I've always loved messing around with other instruments and can usually get a serviceable sound ... apart from bowed instruments, from which I've only ever extracted noises than range from sick-cat to fingernails-on-a-chalkboard ... hmm, maybe well qualified for a violinist spot in an experimental music ensemble ...
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Good luck with the bass audition, Al! Will this be the acid test for the Rush theory? :)
Dunno about acid, Polly.... bad trip the last time. (j/k) But I will be trying out my theory...?
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Al, DED, jer, Eddie, Homeularis, Kenny, Abe - all these drummers who play guitar or bass!

I tried for 20 years on and off to play guitar - and I have an acoustic and electric at home, but I simply can't hold down all the strings to play clean barre chords. Also, the strings kill my fingers. I learned to play quite a few songs from songbooks in that primitive noob way but it's just not my instrument.
Honestly this is still the most difficult part for me.

I'm amazing at my guitar playing friends who's finger seem to glide over the strings and make all thee great sounds with barely pressing the strings. Meanwhile, I have to press so hard to get a clean sounding chord!

But like anything else, practice, practice, practice. I took some lessons for a little while as well.

I've also found some guitars are more forgiving than others. I borrowed a buddies acoustic, and I couldn't play the thing to save my life. The strings were set high, and it was a pain to fret. But after an hour on that, I picked my normal guitar, and suddenly playing my guitar seemed like a breeze. Another buddy brought over his electric, and I found certain figured were easier to ply on his guitar than mine. Necks, frets and string sizes really all play into ease of use.

Still, over all, I don't consider myself accomplished on guitar. I wouldn't go join a band as their guitarist. Not at least without a lot more lessons.
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Eddie, while the fingers harden, I'm not sure I want to harden my soft fingertips any more than I want to wreck my nails lol ... no, I'm not a princess, just been single for over a year :)
Join the club. My 4th anniversary of being single last month lol. It was not a proper "relationship" by any means but certainly the closest thing to it for me to date. Sorry, I don't want to turn this thread into a 4 yorkshireman sketch or anything! I am only 19. All of my friends just got lucky so far I guess... I personally really like girls of the bass playing variety, I could really do with one in my life. I really am a "hands" sort of guy but far from being very particular about perfectly manicured nails and all that I do actually really like hands that have seen a good few hours on a bass in their time. Short nails don't really bother me either. You shouldn't let things like that bother you. At the end of the day if people like you, they like you. If they don't they don't. That's the way I look at it but then again as you can see I'm probably not the best person to ask for relationship advice :p
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I've also found some guitars are more forgiving than others. I borrowed a buddies acoustic, and I couldn't play the thing to save my life. The strings were set high, and it was a pain to fret. But after an hour on that, I picked my normal guitar, and suddenly playing my guitar seemed like a breeze. Another buddy brought over his electric, and I found certain figured were easier to ply on his guitar than mine. Necks, frets and string sizes really all play into ease of use.
It's unfortunate that a good handful of entry level instruments are like you mentioned above, DED. Setup horribly and hard for beginners to play for very long without getting hurt.

The action is quite nasty on the banjo my GF got - she stops playing after about 5 minutes and curses me for being able to play pretty much indefinably. Realize how much I took it for granted that since a young age, I've always had at least a beat up old acoustic, often missing a couple stings around to make noise on. I really don't remember ever getting blisters like I did when I started playing drums.

Classical guitars with nylon strings are (imo) a breeze, to play. I'd recommend one to anyone who wants to give it a go without killing your fingers. (Although you still need fairly short nails...)

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So ... Unfunky ... you are wondering if my barre chord issues were because of the drumming? Interesting theory ... and good point about nails ... it's a big issue for me.

Eddie, while the fingers harden, I'm not sure I want to harden my soft fingertips any more than I want to wreck my nails lol ... no, I'm not a princess, just been single for over a year :)

I do remember having some nasty blisters on my thumbs while gigging on drums back in the 80s when the stage monitors were being unkind, but these days in my laid back band I'm just doing tappity-tap and barely even break a sweat (as opposed to the 80s, being blinded by the sweat pouring into my eyes). I played keys in a couple of little bands a few years ago but had to go back to drums because it was killing my fingers ...

Good luck with the bass audition, Al! Will this be the acid test for the Rush theory? :)

As for the thread, I also have a range of percussion toys at home. When I was young and living with my parents I had access to my sister's neglected piano and clarinet, which were fun to dabble on.

I've always loved messing around with other instruments and can usually get a serviceable sound ... apart from bowed instruments, from which I've only ever extracted noises than range from sick-cat to fingernails-on-a-chalkboard ... hmm, maybe well qualified for a violinist spot in an experimental music ensemble ...
yup, thatīs what iīm saying.

i have a friend whoīs a trumpet player and he describes the same phenomenon in going from trumpet to guitar. apparently the trumpet technique bends his hands out of shape for guitar. heīs the one who prescribed massaging the fingers back into normal shape and possibly alternating days (in some fashion). and it works.

as for barre chords...they are tough to master anyway. it may take five or six years to get the barre chord down, but there are inversions and things that you can do to get around that - different voicing that omit this or that from the barre - (co--incident-ly impacting and emphasising your flow at the moment).

and donīt be afraid to use the thumb. i know (so called) purists will say not to use the thumb. but check out any jazzer. and check out any blues man. whatever youīve got...throw it at that neck and squeeze out those notes. and check out a book of jazz chords sometime - check the designations for finger placement: T / 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / Barre etc. if you canīt make the barre throw your thumb across the neck to get the low string. there are some chords that can ONLY be made by using the thumb.

back to drums. oh the blisters are HORRIBLE !!!! as a guitarist, iīve always taken good care of my hands. wash frequently. stretch. but the BLISTERS and CALLOUSES and the JOINT ACHE of playing drums is INDESCRIBABLY HORRID. BONE SHAKING ainīt the word for it. so i drum until my back aches and then i canīt play drums for at least three days.

but if you massage that crimp out of your fingers / hands and / or wait a coupla days or so, youīll be making barre chords and your fingers will be on point (fingertips) in a year. playing 2-4 hours a week. same for keyboards.

the important thing with any instrument is...donīt stop. if you donīt stop, i promise you will get there. you donīt have to bang your head against the wall to get it...just keep plugging at it. it will come to you.

also, as mentioned, it is very important to find the right neck (width / radius*) / string gauges / body weight balance / control placement / etc.

Choosing A Guitar:

as for instrument choice...iīm 5ī 10Ļ with (supposedly) nice long skinny fingers. whatever. i like em. but i too have trouble making barre chords. so i prefer smaller scale guitars (24Ļ scale like the originally student model Fender Mustang. the 7..25 inch neck radius also helps with making barre chords. i make sure that all of my guitars have that neck radius (pretty much only found on old Fenders). to sum up: shorter scale - 24Ļ Fender Mustangs, Duo -Sonics / Jaguar -and- rounder neck radius 7.25" is best. the rounder the radius the better. flatter necks like Gibsonīs 12Ļ radius are harder to barre. string spacing matters too. neck width matters too.

just try some short scale guitars and find one that suits you. i like the Mustang. i have an Aria Pro II that is short scale yet has 24 frets and set neck. very lightweight (as light as a Tele Thinline). unfortunately, it has a flatter neck, but i make do with that, because otherwise itīs a great guitar.

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It's unfortunate that a good handful of entry level instruments are like you mentioned above, DED. Setup horribly and hard for beginners to play for very long without getting hurt.

The action is quite nasty on the banjo my GF got - she stops playing after about 5 minutes and curses me for being able to play pretty much indefinably. Realize how much I took it for granted that since a young age, I've always had at least a beat up old acoustic, often missing a couple stings around to make noise on. I really don't remember ever getting blisters like I did when I started playing drums.

Classical guitars with nylon strings are (imo) a breeze, to play. I'd recommend one to anyone who wants to give it a go without killing your fingers. (Although you still need fairly short nails...)

Mmmm... your band is much younger than mine:



I imagine your drummer is a better timekeeper than mine!
One new feature of Garage Band, by Apple, is the ability to synch any times that are off let's say for instruments recorded at different times. It will match the beats for all instruments. Also has piano and guitar lessons built in.
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Guess my tongue wasn't far enough in my cheek, I also have a midi keyboard and use GB on occasion myself. While I enjoy the 4-track for it's simplicity, I find GB is great for laying down ideas I might not otherwise be able to perform live to track.
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Sad thing is, I hardly touch it. I'm always playing my acoustic.
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My SG bass. I have an SG guitar floating around here somewhere as well....
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A couple of Instagram photos I took a few months back of my 1920's M. Schulz & Co. upright piano.





I've got a couple of guitars and harmonicas as well. I'll post those later.
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