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Old 10-13-2010, 06:57 PM
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Default Double Wide Reso Bass Drum Hoops

I was looking through a recent catalog Guitar Center had sent to me and I saw the kit below and it got me thinking. Is there any advantage to having this type (wood or metal) of a hoop? I've never played a kit with one on it, but it seems like just an aesthetic touch.

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Old 10-13-2010, 07:04 PM
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I'm sure it has some tiny, inaudible effect on the drum sound. I'm sure the intention is to look cool...if that's what you'd call that.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Double Wide Reso Bass Drum Hoops

Saw that in person. It's not a matter of style, it's goofy. For there to be a noticeable sound difference, that hoop would have to be considerably wider to add more tunnel.

Nah, I'm sticking with goofy.

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Old 10-13-2010, 07:19 PM
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Saw that in person. It's not a matter of style, it's goofy. For there to be a noticeable sound difference, that hoop would have to be considerably wider to add more tunnel.

Nah, I'm sticking with goofy.

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Old 10-13-2010, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: Double Wide Reso Bass Drum Hoops

Seriously??

Could bass drums get any more phallic these days? I'm sorry but the really deep bass drum trend is getting ridiculous - they don't sound better, they are hard to get in the car, and they take up too much room on stage. So I guess 20x22 wasn't long enough - now we have to extend the bass drum out past the reso head too.

This is like the IROC-Z of the drum world. They should slap some "Extenze" and Viagra decals on it at the factory too.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:59 PM
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a wider reso hoop is stronger so it would provide more even pressure to the drum head and also makes the drum lower because it makes the drum shell deeper . but I don't know if that is useful or if it can even be heard.
aesthetically I like the concept , but I think It would look much cooler if it were a little bit shallower, if that's 4" I think 3" would look better
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:40 AM
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a wider reso hoop is stronger so it would provide more even pressure to the drum head and also makes the drum lower because it makes the drum shell deeper . but I don't know if that is useful or if it can even be heard.
aesthetically I like the concept , but I think It would look much cooler if it were a little bit shallower, if that's 4" I think 3" would look better


Yes it would definitely stiffen the bass drum, which is good, though the bass is listed as 20" so add another 5-6" and you've got trouble if you're driving a NEON to gigs.

OCDP is not shy about employing gimicks, maybe it'll sell.

You'd think they'd at least put the seam of the hoop at the top for pic's.


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Or even put that chrome wrap on the interior of the hoop as well, but I could see it use on some thing big like a 26" kick. Damn kids and their rock n' roll...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:35 PM
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I don't know if ocpd was the first company with this idea but whether you like it or not you have to admit that is good that someone is thinking out of the box and providing new features and options in an industry where everybody is playing safe
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I don't know if ocpd was the first company with this idea but whether you like it or not you have to admit that is good that someone is thinking out of the box and providing new features and options in an industry where everybody is playing safe
I would agree with you here IF I thought these really did anything measurable for the sound / playability of the drum in question... My suspicion is that it is mostly for looks though. In that case - unless I've got a tour bus and roadies carrying my stuff - the excess size and / or weight is totally worthless IMO. And it's ugly to boot.
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a wider reso hoop is stronger so it would provide more even pressure to the drum head
If the intention was to improve even tension, then surely they'd put these deep hoops on both heads. As it's only on the reso, it's clearly a funky looks marketing thing.

As for deep kicks being a trend, I was playing a 20x20 in 1979!
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Default Re: Double Wide Reso Bass Drum Hoops

Another thought...

If this drum is 20" depth, with what looks like a 6" (or more) wide hoop. Who sells a case or bag that fits this thing?
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:54 PM
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It's for looks and nothing else. I wouldn't read any more into it than that. Looks.

A case for that would be as much as the kit haha! TB doesn't have to worry about that...and 99.9% of the people who would buy this kit wouldn't either if I had to guess...
It's a pretty ugly finish in person (IMO) too.

Yes, the seam on the hoop placed at the top would have been way smarter for pics. I see crap like this all the time in drum pics.
The people running the shoots are supposed to be art directors, but IME, most of them are bungholes....

At the least Photoshop it out after they could not miss it after the fact.
It'd be a 2 minute fix at the most.
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If the intention was to improve even tension, then surely they'd put these deep hoops on both heads. As it's only on the reso, it's clearly a funky looks marketing thing.

As for deep kicks being a trend, I was playing a 20x20 in 1979!

Big on the batter side there'd have to a cut-out for the pedal to reach the head.

Metal hoops will stiffen a bass drum shell and provide the best tuning, but metal hoops seem to be stigmatized.
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