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Old 08-29-2010, 01:57 AM
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Finally got some new tom heads and thought I would post a sound file of my refurbed Bumble Bee Bop set. Lots of trouble getting use to the bass drum pedal on a small drum but it will come with time. Only a sound check and not a Paul McCartney audition. Drums are 18 x 16, 12 x 9, and 13 x 10 floor tom. Snare is 5.5 x 14
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:46 AM
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It sounds great!
The bass drum has a real nice clean deep tone.
The toms also sound great. They have real nice separation.

What is happening with the bass pedal that you have to get used to?
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:18 AM
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First, I am use to burying the pedal. On this small drum it kills all of the sound if I bury it. Second, even with a riser the length of the beater arm is shorter and gets there quicker. I just need to play it more. As for the toms, 13 and 12 inch, I tuned one about as low as possible and one as high so there would be some separation. Thanks.
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First, I am use to burying the pedal. On this small drum it kills all of the sound if I bury it. Second, even with a riser the length of the beater arm is shorter and gets there quicker.
Thats what I thought that you were going to say.
When I first started playing my 14 x18 bass drum I was a fish out of water for a few days.
I did get used to it but a non ported head just isn't for me.
I finally ported my reso. I only burry the beater for accents and I do let it bounce most of the time, but after playing a ported bass for so many years I just couldn't like a non ported
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I was fine with timing because I have also played a 20" bass for many years. With the 2" riser on the 18" bass, I didn't have to make any adjustments to the beater shaft.

I can't believe how low you were able to tune that 13" floor tom!
It is lower than my 12 x 14 floor.
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the heads on the toms are Evans G2 clear batters and Evans G1 clear resos. The 13 floor is just above wrinkle.
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That makes sense, I use single ply coated on my toms.

I find that my large, heavy, old fashioned felt beater works the best on my 18" bass.
That's the one that I always use with it.
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Thats what I had on my pedal and took it off for a lighter weight 2 sided plastic/felt beater
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Thats what I had on my pedal and took it off for a lighter weight 2 sided plastic/felt beater
Did it help at all with your timing issue?
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Yeah the spring slowed with the smaller weight. I just need to play it more. I just have no room in the inn.
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Have you played The Bee kit with other musicians yet?
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Oh no. I'm just a music room warrior.
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Sounds great, GD. good job. Can you do a close up of the riser and the foot- pedal attachment? I think the smaller drum will choke easier without a vent. Any vent in the Bass shell?

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The pedal does have a small vent hole. It may be at the bottom of the drum but it's off of the ground by almost 4 inches.
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.. So, the beater hit is off -center on the BD head, right? It would be a little below center.

( In which case I think it might help to have a port hole in your reso. It will give you a more natural feel, more like what you are used to with your Gretsch, and might sound nicer too. I know its cooler to have that jazzier boing with unported heads, but some small bass drums just dont work that way. You could consider coated batter heads too )
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I may port the reso and see what happens. The beater is about 1 inch below center. Thanks for looking.
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You can raise the beater up a bit. I keep my beater about on inch above center on my 20" and 18" bass drums. Even on my 22" bass drum my beater is just slightly high of center.
Give it a try and see.
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that lil bop kit sounds really nice man!
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I never quite understood how one can call themself a musician and not interact with other musicians. That's the whole point of playing music, to interact with others and to have people hear you play. My dad use to tell me when I was banging away in my bedroom. "what good is it if you play by yourself and no one hears you?" Although I do like practicing on my own, if I didn't play with other musicians and perform in public, I would feel very unfullfilled.
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I never quite understood how one can call themself a musician and not interact with other musicians. That's the whole point of playing music, to interact with others and to have people hear you play. My dad use to tell me when I was banging away in my bedroom. "what good is it if you play by yourself and no one hears you?" Although I do like practicing on my own, if I didn't play with other musicians and perform in public, I would feel very unfullfilled.
I can relate to Grunt!
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I enjoy playing for myself just as much as I do with others.
I have recently been wondering why I do play with others at all! LOL!
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I never quite understood how one can call themself a musician and not interact with other musicians. That's the whole point of playing music, to interact with others and to have people hear you play. My dad use to tell me when I was banging away in my bedroom. "what good is it if you play by yourself and no one hears you?" Although I do like practicing on my own, if I didn't play with other musicians and perform in public, I would feel very unfullfilled.
I would love to play with others but after a 32 year break and the fact that I'm 62, a lot of people aren't knocking on my door. I never said I was a musician only that I love music and love playing the drums to music. I don't agree with your definition but it's all good.

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I would love to play with others but after a 32 year break and the fact that I'm 62, a lot of people aren't knocking on my door.
The town that I live in has a large retirement community within it.
"Heritage Village" it is called.
I tried several times to find older musicians from the village to play with. I just wanted to play with, and learn from people that were slightly older than I.
I put ads in their common areas and also on their net sites.
I only got one response from an excellent sax player. I played jazz with him and a few younger musicians for about a year. I learned a lot about jazz from playing with him.

Senior citizens have a lot to offer.
I hope so, I will be one soon! Just about 10 years to go for me!
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The town that I live in has a large retirement community within it.
"Heritage Village" it is called.
I tried several times to find older musicians from the village to play with. I just wanted to play with, and learn from people that were slightly older than I.
I put ads in their common areas and also on their net sites.
I only got one response from an excellent sax player. I played jazz with him and a few younger musicians for about a year. I learned a lot about jazz from playing with him.

Senior citizens have a lot to offer.
I hope so, I will be one soon! Just about 10 years to go for me!
I'm getting close to that age, also. The band I play with is a 17pc Glenn Miller style band and every week they play/rehearse in a retirement center or nursing home (no pay). The clientele, that being music of their era more or less, really appreciate it. I know when we are tearing down afterward, we usually get staff coming up and complimenting us on our playing. It is a lot of fun to play for an appreciative audience.
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I would love to play with others but after a 32 year break and the fact that I'm 62, a lot of people aren't knocking on my door. I never said I was a musician only that I love music and love playing the drums to music. I don't agree with your definition but it's all good.

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Have you ever played in a band or gigged? There is nothing wrong with playing alone, but playing with others is so cool. I'm sure there are musicians in your town who would love coming to your house just to jam, put an add on craiglist, you'll be surprised.
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I did when I was in my first year of college. Drove around in a Caddy Hearse for a band wagon. had a ball. Did college, did the Army, did married life etc etc etc and here I am.
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So, you basically gave up playing with other musicians. I'm 54 and I gig 2-3 times a month, loading and unloading equipment, staying up until 3 or 4 in the morning and I love it. I want to play every weekend, but we are having a conflict with the lead singer and her boyfriend who happens to be the guitar player. I've been playing with bands since my early 30's and it's just become a part of my life that I can't let go of.
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Wasn't just a matter of giving up playing, but other things came along, that pushed it way down on the priority list. I always had a pair of sticks and tapped on everything the entire 30 years but didn't own drums until 4 years ago, Part of it was choice, part of it was obligation to other things. But mean while back to the sound byte and photos of my refurbished drums.
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Awesome looking kit GD! Very nice job. The bass drum sounds good.
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I never quite understood how one can call themself a musician and not interact with other musicians. That's the whole point of playing music, to interact with others and to have people hear you play. My dad use to tell me when I was banging away in my bedroom. "what good is it if you play by yourself and no one hears you?" Although I do like practicing on my own, if I didn't play with other musicians and perform in public, I would feel very unfullfilled.
With everything else I do, I do quite a bit of music all by my lonesome, too. I actually think of myself more as a composer than anything else--compositions are what I care most about when it comes to music, both as a listener and as a musician. I spend WAY more time at home working on writing than I do working on anything else, and I regularly record things with me playing every part--I play keyboards and bass just as well as I play drums, and I've got a bunch of keyboards--workstations, synths, etc. and recording gear and software at home.

I do enjoy playing and collaborating with other musicians, but I could easily be satisfied just working on my own, too. Part of it is that one thing I definitely do NOT like about playing with other musicians is all of the logistical and manual labor hassles. I'd rather not have to haul gear around and set it up, I'd rather not have to figure out why the guitarist hasn't shown up yet, I'd rather not have to figure out what the heck happened to the guy with our money, etc.

I don't think there's anything wrong with interacting with music in different ways. As long as you're playing music somehow, you're a musician!
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In most of the situations I've been in outside of the pop/rock world, age hasn't been an issue. It's only pop/rock bands that tend to be concerned with image in that way. I've played jazz, country, classical, showtunes, experimental music, etc. with people from 18 to 80 on the bandstand. As long as folks can play and have the right attitudes, it doesn't matter how old you are.
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Awesome looking kit GD! Very nice job. The bass drum sounds good.
Thanks. This was a piecemeal job for sure.
Four drums from four different sellers.
Bass drum hoops, claws and T-bars from 3 different sellers.
13 inch hoops from a separate seller.
Floor tom leg holders for the bass drum conversion from a separate seller.
That's 9 different people selling parts plus MusiciansFriend for the Bass drum legs and pedal riser from Dunnett. Like grocery shopping for sure.
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Yeah, those came from me :)
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That's the whole point of playing music, to interact with others and to have people hear you play.
For you, cool. I'd argue the purpose of playing music is to create, regardless of who hears me or not. Diff. strokes, as has already been stated.

I've already given you my thoughts on this kit Grunter, but it's nice to finally hear it. Job well done.
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For you, cool. I'd argue the purpose of playing music is to create, regardless of who hears me or not. Diff. strokes, as has already been stated.

I've already given you my thoughts on this kit Grunter, but it's nice to finally hear it. Job well done.
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