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Old 12-16-2009, 07:11 AM
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Hey everybody,

I was at PASIC this year and ran into my friend Bill Bachman. He showed me this new hi hat stand design that he came up with, and I was pretty blown away by it! I've never played a hi hat stand that felt so smooth, and the cool thing is, you can place it anywhere you want to. It pretty much owns all of the remote hi hat stands that I've ever tried. Absolutely no lag.

Here's a link to see it:

www.remotespeedyhat.com

I've been really pondering my setup ever since trying this thing. Check it out!

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Old 12-16-2009, 06:21 PM
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I want it! Looks like a great idea.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:19 PM
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Thats awesome! First remote hat i've ever seen that looks like it makes sense and feels good. Is he selling them yet?
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:45 PM
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Hey bamdrummer,

Yeah, they're on the market now. Looks like Bill's got an online ordering thing on the website.

I'm telling ya, that thing is even faster than a regular hi hat stand!

Good stuff.

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Old 12-16-2009, 09:24 PM
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PLUG!!! ahah jks, ya that looks pretty smooth, any idea on the price?
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:43 PM
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I have a DW 9550 Remote Universal Hi Hat, which is similar in that it's a remote hi-hat stand without a cable.

It uses the same kind of linkage that you find on a double bass drum pedal. It's great except for the fact that DW decided to have the connection between the actual pedal and the remote linkage (i've circled it on the attached image) completely round and smooth. It is held in place by two screws that can be tightened or loosened with a drum key.

Unfortunately, even with two screws it frequently slips. It gives you the ability to set the height of the pedal and all of that precisely, but it's not worth it when it doesn't stay in place. It is definitely more responsive than a cable hat (which I used for a while before picking this one up but finally ditched it because the cables kept breaking on me), but I wonder if this Remote Speedy Hat is any better in that department. At least it seems that it does not have this fatal slippage flaw that the DW has.

I'd love to try this thing out to see how it compares.
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:54 AM
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PLUG!!! ahah jks, ya that looks pretty smooth, any idea on the price?
Hi bradmapex,

Ha, yeah I know...well, I wouldn't mention it if it weren't cool! Bill's a good buddy and I'm proud to see what he's doing.

I think it is about $300.

ahector,

After playing on it and looking at it up close, I think it;s safe to say that you won't have that issue. That's strange that the linkage is round...I would think that even having a flat part on the top would stay in place even if the screws loosened.

Bill mentions the cable breakage thing in that video on the website. I've had that happen as well. It's a bummer!

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Old 12-19-2009, 07:15 AM
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that is a great idea!! if only i had a spare $300.....

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Old 12-19-2009, 07:36 AM
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Just watched the video - very, very cool. $300 is a bit high for a hi-hat stand...but with increased production will come lower prices.

The hi-hat crossover thing is the only real point of tension for me anymore. I'm always sitting there thinking, "Man, if only this sucker was exactly where I wanted it...".
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:07 PM
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I agree, the price is a bit steep, but it is in line with what other companies charge for remote hats. My DW remote hat contraption cost me more, actually. :(

If the remote speedy hat was on the market at the time, I likely would have bought it instead.

I really wish these things were maybe $100 cheaper or so. It does seem excessive. Unfortunately for me, now that I've stopped playing with a straight hat (it's been several years now), I can't imagine ever going back unless I become really comfortable playing open handed (and that isn't happening any time soon).
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Unfortunately for me, now that I've stopped playing with a straight hat (it's been several years now), I can't imagine ever going back unless I become really comfortable playing open handed (and that isn't happening any time soon).
See, there's my dilemma and what holds me back from trying a remote hat or some other contraption. On one hand, it seems silly to resist innovation and progress on the old trap set concept. OTOH - the stubborn traditionalist in me keeps me from doing anything "exotic" with my setup that would prevent me from playing on a "normal" kit.

Then again...it's not often I play someone else's drums. Man...I'm torn!
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:55 PM
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the stubborn traditionalist in me keeps me from doing anything "exotic" with my setup that would prevent me from playing on a "normal" kit.
Actually, when I was checking it out, it was in a "quasi-traditional" position. It was moved over a tad to help with the hand position. maybe around 10:00-ish. It could be placed in the traditional 9:00. position as well.

I tend to play near the front area of my hats to open the path for my left hand to raise up for accents. The problem is, I either smash my right thumb with my left stick, or I end up gripping the right stick near the butt to keep my thumb out of the way. Not great for control!

I'm thinking that my problem would be solved with this stand. Heck, even if it was used as a "conventional" stand, It would still feel better than anything I've ever played on.

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Old 12-21-2009, 01:49 AM
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Hey everybody,

I was at PASIC this year and ran into my friend Bill Bachman. He showed me this new hi hat stand design that he came up with, and I was pretty blown away by it! I've never played a hi hat stand that felt so smooth, and the cool thing is, you can place it anywhere you want to. It pretty much owns all of the remote hi hat stands that I've ever tried. Absolutely no lag.

Here's a link to see it:

www.remotespeedyhat.com

I've been really pondering my setup ever since trying this thing. Check it out!

Terry
That's not really original, as Gibraltar and DW have done it before. A remote hi hat is a lot easier to position and isn't that much worse than a normal hi hat. I use a DW 9000 remote hat as my main hi hat and it feels just like a normal hi hat stand.
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:38 PM
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Hey but what is it compared to the Gibralter ultra adjust hi-hat? ive been thinking and wanting to get it but this speedy hat things looks pretty awesome. but has anyone tried both? the Gibralter ultra adjust comes with no legs for clamps like the speedy and with legs. heres a link

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Old 12-21-2009, 06:01 PM
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Hey guys Bill Bachman here. Thanks for the kind words Terry!

If you read the reviews on the remotespeedyhat.com site you'll hear from many who tried it at PASIC and confirmed that it far surpasses all of the other hi hat options mentioned. Anything with a cable in a cable housing is much slower and less responsive having mush and drag. When I first played my prototype over a year ago I was jumping up and down happy because finally I had a remote hi hat that really works (& I'd tried all of the other options). Many at PASIC said it's faster than a straight stand and I agree.

Oh, and it's $249, not $300. If you get it and don't love it you can return it, no problem.

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Old 12-21-2009, 09:21 PM
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Hey Bill, first of all, that's a great product you got there! Price is a bit high but I guess for a decent reason.

I was wondering, since you are already here, can you tell me if you can ship to Israel? Will it increase the total cost?
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:48 AM
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I use a DW 9000 remote hat as my main hi hat and it feels just like a normal hi hat stand.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:10 AM
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Yeah, a properly made remote hi hat works very well. This speedy hat thing without friction and resistance is pointless. I don't feel any friction, resistance, sloppiness, or anything unlike a standard hi hat stand. The DW remote stand featured at the top of the thread and the snake-oil ripoff being promoted offer the same features, but limited positioning. My remote hats are mounted in between my rack toms. There's no way one of these things could achieve that.

I've owned 4 hi hat stands: a BOA, an Eliminator remote, a Yamaha super heavy duty, and a 9000 remote. The best feeling one was definitely the BOA, with the 9000 in second, Eliminator in third, and the Yamaha in fourth. The BOA is only better because it's literally the smoothest hi hat stand in history. It's literally a footboard attached to a rod. There isn't a single moving part, praise Gatzen. As for the Eliminator, it felt like a stereotypical remote hi hat stand. It wasn't smooth at all, had friction, and felt "heavy," but it had absolutely no effect on my playing. I can play just as well with it as any other hi hat stand. As a matter of fact, I plan on getting some mini hats and using the Eliminator stand next to my right kick.
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:43 PM
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Wow, tough crowd. All I can say is that everybody who's tried it absolutely loves it. It sounds like your DW is perfect for you.

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I would use this i I want to able to have a hi hat on my right like Lang/Roddy/Minneman.
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I would use this i I want to able to have a hi hat on my right like Lang/Roddy/Minneman.
It's not flexible enough. A remote hi hat is the only way to get the exact position you want. It's not a priority yet, but I plan on using my Eliminator remote stand with some mini hi hats mounted like David Garibaldi's. I could never do that with something like this.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:05 PM
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Hey topgun2021, this will be perfect for a hi hat pedal & hats on the right if that's what you mean. I'm probably going to add one on that side as well.

As for the criticism of it not being flexible enough, I think you mean not flexible enough to have the pedal for your left foot and the hats on the right side of the kit, in which case you're correct. Of course, it's not designed to do that. It'd be like saying a Toyota Camry is a bad car because it can't win a drag race. Of course it can't, it's not designed to do that, but it does what it's designed to do extremely well.
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I like this design.

That being said, I don't think I'll be having one on my set-up. I've been using a remote cable hat, as the main, on the right side for a long time. Left foot pedal - hats just over the first floor right of the ride in a two up two down set-up. My current remote, one of the DW 9000 jobbys is about 3 yrs old and still very serviceable. When it was new the action was very slick. The cable housing has, I am sure, worn a bit, but the overall feel is still very good. I've been setting up my kit this way since the late 80's and have hats on both sides, but I wouldn't want to go back to crossed. Old dog - new tricks kinda thing.

This pedal concept looks like it good be built to go that far, a bit tricky to deal with the kick drum though.
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:16 PM
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Hey, thanks for the compliment. It is indeed not designed to all the way over to the opposite side of the kit.

The advantage of moving it towards the center of the kit is that both hands can still play the hats, and more easily than ever. With a cable hat all the way to the right it's not very practical to play it with the left hand as well as the right. None the less, set up however you want and play whatever floats your boat!

On a side note, I've added an optional brace which allows tilting. Before it was only written in my patent, but now it's available.

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That looks like a great hi hat Bill. I have always wanted to eliminate the crossover problem while keeping the hi hat on the right side and have tried many remote / cable hi hat set ups but was always frustrated with that slipping feeling. If it's as smooth as appears to be, this just might be what i need. A little pricey though considering i still have to have a stand and clamp.
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Hey but what is it compared to the Gibralter ultra adjust hi-hat? ive been thinking and wanting to get it but this speedy hat things looks pretty awesome. but has anyone tried both? the Gibralter ultra adjust comes with no legs for clamps like the speedy and with legs. heres a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7X-0qiXfy8
I have the unit and like it. Didn't know about the Remote Speedy Hat when i bought it (a year ago).

I am 6'7" and don't like sitting tight so it works. Just recently I replaced the center piece with a 7.5" piece that really helps. I will keep the Remote unit in mind.

The downside of the ultra is that the foot part doesn't swivel - which limits things a tad and the cables is not as smooth as without.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:24 PM
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Here's my written and video review of the Remote Speedy Hat.

http://www.drummercafe.com/reviews/g...peedy-hat.html

I feel like I've tried (almost) every "remote" HiHat under the sun, and the Remote Speedy Hat is the bomb. When you see my review, I think you'll understand.
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Old 02-13-2010, 03:17 AM
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You can still adjust normal hats such that your sticks don't cross. You contort yourself a bit as compared to a remote hat, but it's not that big of a deal.

I've been using the 9550 for a year now and love it. Don't have a slipping problem as the previous guy mentioned.

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Then again...it's not often I play someone else's drums. Man...I'm torn!
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:46 AM
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Hey Yammy, I'm all for each of us playing what we like and the way we like, so if it's working for you, then great! I would like to share an observation though:

Yes it's true that you can adjust your straight hi hat stand position and contort your hand so you don't have to cross, but why play with a "contorted" hand if you don't have to? Yes you can play with your right forearm sticking farther forward and a fully German grip with the stick pointing inwards relative to the forearm, but I know that for me it's not that comfortable. Plus German grip is nowhere near as good for finger control as French (which is why most drummers play somewhere in the middle). Moving a straight hi hat stand forward like that also puts your left foot a bit out of where it would naturally want to go, and I doubt that a double bass pedal will fit into that set-up very well.

I'm all for choosing the path of least resistance and greatest effect, and that's why the remote speedy hat was born!
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Here's another review on the Remote Speedy Hat that you might find useful.

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Call me a "gadget geek" if you must, but it all comes down to wanting to gain the most out of my playing, and that said, I'm always looking for a new product that will help me improve my playing while gaining the advantage of smooth, natural movement. Economy of motion.

I think this Speedy Hat may just be the ticket to accomplish this. I haven't tried it yet, but I will approach it the same way I've approached every other new drumming product that I've tried. Gig grips, Gibraltar Curved rack, Ahead sticks, and the Duallist Pedal. With an open mind!!

Bill, this looks like an extremely versatile piece of gear with solid engineering and manufacturing behind it. I'm saving up my money as I believe this will be my next drumming "big ticket" purchase!!
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it seems a little robust for placement.. hmm.
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Hey romenydrummer64, it is indeed a very versatile and user friendly hi hat. If you check it out I'm sure you will love it, we have an ever growing list of extremely happy customers.

The Chicago drum show is this weekend, if you happen to be going stop by the Legacy Percussion Gear and try it out for yourself!
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Bill..just came aware of this while checking out the chicago drum show vuds.Thing looks great,but i think im missing something.on your web site,your playing without the mounted tom..I dont see how im going to hit the tom with the hats there.....Help me see what im missing..
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The video doesn't have any toms or hardly any cymbals because I wanted to focus on the hats. The following two pictures show a couple examples of how it could be set up with a full drumset.

You can also see how I set it up in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grl5SDfjaFk


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