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Hey peeps,

I was noodling around the internet kinda looking for a compact gig kit.
Y'know something to bag up and toss in the back seat of the Toyota.

Looked at the Gretsch Cat Jazz, Tama Stagestar, Impstar 18, and happened upon this YouTube video from Sigler showcasing this pintsized powerhouse!

*Don't mind the lame playing* Or the goofy salespitch..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrEdOFYXxJ0


Perfect for harder rockin due to the birch shells and 45s!!

The kick drum and toms are pretty friggin loud and PUNCHY! Sizes are 8x12" rack tom/suspension mount, 5x14" snare, 14x14 FT/legs and an amazing 14x18" kick! I am using my Yamaha 700 series HW and VOILA! Compact pintsized and PUNCHY!!!

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$410 to my door! Slapping on Emp smooth whites/clear Ambs, EMAD 2, 2" HOLZ port/stocker reso.
Great sounding, really nice build and $400! (w/o HW)

Better pix w cymbals in a week or two.. Watch also for a review,,if you are interested.








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Old 02-20-2010, 04:51 AM
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They look like good drums. I haven't tried them yet. I have heard nothing but good about them.
Did you see this thread?
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...custom+classic
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Old 02-20-2010, 05:40 AM
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They look like good drums. I haven't tried them yet. I have heard nothing but good about them.
Did you see this thread?
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...custom+classic
bobda, This kit is amazing! The punch from the kick and toms is incredible!

This little set just blasts!
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bump...can I bump my own thread.. There is no code of ethics I crossed..is there??
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You said that you looked at the Stagestar, A few weeks after I bought my Stagestar I saw the Cust Class kit.
I probably would have bought the Cust Class If I knew about it then.

I do like my Stagestar though.
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:24 AM
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You said that you looked at the Stagestar, A few weeks after I bought my Stagestar I saw the Cust Class kit.
I probably would have bought the Cust Class If I knew about it then.

I do like my Stagestar though.
Sux how stuff sometimes works out like that!

I had 2 Gretsch Cat Jazz kits which I liked pretty well and I played the Tama Imperialstar 18 as well. I thought after seiing the YouTube video of the CCBJ I would take a chance.
Boy am I glad I did! I like this kit better than the Gretsch and the Tama for punch and projection!!! I'm rockin and funkin' this kit!
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Looks cool. The set in the video I assume is using the stock heads and they sound great. What did it come with as heads go.?
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Looks cool. The set in the video I assume is using the stock heads and they sound great. What did it come with as heads go.?
Eh, just came with the average el cheapo Chinese Ambassador style batters and resos. And yeah, even with the stocker heads, this kit is amazing!

These kits (Custom Classic) are for real! Believe everything you have read on DW regarding this brand!! I don't think I have played a punchier or fuller sounding bop kit EVER!
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Glad to hear the quality of Custom Classics has improved. I needed a cheap 2nd kit a couple of years ago, and bought a CC kit from Ebay, but the quality was truly awful. The wraps were warped and split, bearing edges were atrocious, gouges inside the shells were filled with wood putty, some of the shells were out of round, the lugs were some weird size that didn't use standard size t-rods...this list goes on and on! I suppose the feedback at the time was bad, and they improved the quality.
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Glad to hear the quality of Custom Classics has improved. I needed a cheap 2nd kit a couple of years ago, and bought a CC kit from Ebay, but the quality was truly awful. The wraps were warped and split, bearing edges were atrocious, gouges inside the shells were filled with wood putty, some of the shells were out of round, the lugs were some weird size that didn't use standard size t-rods...this list goes on and on! I suppose the feedback at the time was bad, and they improved the quality.
Ahh those were the student level 1 up 1 down kits! Thankfully Sigler has stopped marketing those! The new generation of CCs is aimed more at the intermediate/semi pro crowd. Nothing but great stuff to say about my new birch jazzer! Sweet build, INCREDIBLE SOUND!










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Old 03-02-2010, 05:33 PM
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Hey peeps.

This is an official update ...

I am happy to report that the issues I had with regard to the floor tom and missing kick drum riser have been taken care of. I am very pleased with the quality and performance of this kit and would recommend anyone looking for a great gig kit at a really awesome price, to give CC a look!

Sigler once again proved themselves to be outstanding in the customer service department.

Specs: Custom Classic pro 6ply birch Jazz 4 pc. in piano black lacquer
REMO smoothwhite Emp batters/Amb clear resonant on toms, EMAD 2 kick batter/stock logo resonant/dual 2" ports, stock snare
14x18" kick, 8x12" (6lug) rack tom/suspension mount
14x14" floor tom, 5x14" birch snare drum.
Yamaha 780 series HW
Amici Vintage series cymbals.
14" hats, 16" crash, 12" splash (not shown), 20" ride
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Great official update.

very nice kit.
thank you for giving us detail overview of the CC.
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What do you think about the amici cymbals? They don't do them much justice comparing them to sabian's aa line. Maybe it's just the video.
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where can one hear the cymbals??
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The cymbals aren't to bad for cheapo's! They lack complexity, But they can pass as an OK pie for a beginner. I just watched and compared the sounds.
Equal to most entry level pies.
It was an honest demo from my perspective.
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Thanks. They remind me of my old Paiste PST5's.
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What do you think about the amici cymbals? They don't do them much justice comparing them to sabian's aa line. Maybe it's just the video.
I would compare them to Dream or Wuhan. They have a nice complexity that IMO would make for a great Jazz, funk or rock cymbal.
All in all this little kit is verry impressive!!!!

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The cymbals aren't to bad for cheapo's! They lack complexity, But they can pass as an OK pie for a beginner. I just watched and compared the sounds.
Equal to most entry level pies.
It was an honest demo from my perspective.
Seeing as though I own them.. here's a little review..

The Amici cymbals, although the name says Italy, are made in China and sold through the same online retailer I purchased my Custom Classics from. I am guessing they are probably made in the Wuhan province either by Wuhan or Dream cymbal companies and sold through this retailer.

I admit, I don't normally purchase cymbals that are cast (B20) and hand hammered without playing them prior. I viewed the YouTube video (search Amici cymbals) and was impressed by what I heard, so I took a chance..
Having them home, I am very pleased with them. The cymbals are cast B20, lathed top and bottom, machine and hand hammered to give them a sound that is somewhere between a Zildjian A series and a K constantinople.

The hats are medium weight/medium bright with a very pleasing slightly dark quality. Excellent "chick" quality, clean chokes, loud and cutting open sound and nice stick definition (5A wood tips)

The crash is medium weight dark shimmery very K sounding but with the extra shimmer quality. Great cymbal!

The ride is a medium heavy weight with great stick definition, slightly bright, but darker contolled wash, awesome cutting bell! A winner imho.!

The splash is thin weight and has a very cutting voice at higher volumes and opens up so nice with just a light touch. I usually don't use splashes larger than 10" , but this one came with the prepack.. Very nice!

All in all for the pricetag of under $300, the Amici Vintage series cymbals are, IMHO up there soundwise with the the big name makers. The Chinese have been making cymbals for eons and the Amici is more proof that they know what they are doing. I think, for a semi pro player like myself looking for an economical alternative to the high buck cast cymbals from the big names, the Amici vintage series is spot on! For the beginner looking for a low cost cymbal pack, they are a no brainer! Given the fact that they come with a really nice Custom Classic partitioned cymbal bag. I would say the Amici's are a win. I will have them in the studio along side my high end Zildjians with my Yamahas next week.
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did you pay extra for drum riser? or it was part of the deal?

am also thinking to order :D
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did you pay extra for drum riser? or it was part of the deal?

am also thinking to order :D
The riser was part of the shell pack..
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Thanks for the review, they must sound much better in person. BTW I really like that kit, with stock heads it sounded great on the sigler demo video.
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That is a nice set! And I am interested to hear the Amici's - I'm gonna look 'em up on youtube.
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That is a nice set! And I am interested to hear the Amici's - I'm gonna look 'em up on youtube.
I am very pleased with this whole set up..especially considering what I paid!
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Thanks for the review, they must sound much better in person. BTW I really like that kit, with stock heads it sounded great on the sigler demo video.
Made in the same factory as the Catalinas..same level of quality..birch shells,,just a really noice kit for not much cash. It blows doors sound wise on the Catalina Club Jazz kits I had.
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Nice find Pearly Gates ! That Piano Black finish looks flawless. Sigler just needs to go ahead and offer ALL popular sizes in kicks and toms, then they would probably take off.
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Your right Artstar, If the option of a 20" kick was available, I'd be all over it.
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Nice find Pearly Gates ! That Piano Black finish looks flawless. Sigler just needs to go ahead and offer ALL popular sizes in kicks and toms, then they would probably take off.
I believe Chris Ward is in the process of developing a full line of kits.

Thanks, They really sound great!

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Your right Artstar, If the option of a 20" kick was available, I'd be all over it.
The 18" is pretty punchy! A 20 would be a body blow to the mid section!!!
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Toss a Super Kick or Emad on the 18.... it'll be much like a 20". I've been on the fence due to the 18" kick (and the fact that I have a couple 20" heads here for a kit I was going to build for myself) but I figured it'll get the job done and if you actually play jazz gigs, smaller is better for most locations.
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http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=60207

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAUUvV6kpi8

Waay ahead of you there bro.. but thanks for the imput just the same!!
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I'm confused. So you bought a Gretsch Cat Jazz, then got rid of it. Bought another Gretsch Jazz, then sold it. Then was going to buy another Gretsch Cat Jazz?

1. Why sell something to replace it with the same thing?

2. For all that trouble, you could have changed your heads on the first one and had more of a kit than you have now.
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At the time I owned the Cat Jazz kits. I had several other kits and the Jazzers were merely a novelty item of sorts. Now I have a need for a smaller kit and the CC just sounds better to my ears.
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At the time I owned the Cat Jazz kits. I had several other kits and the Jazzers were merely a novelty item of sorts. Now I have a need for a smaller kit and the CC just sounds better to my ears.
Right on. Glad you're happy with them.
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There is one thing I don't like. Your mount upside down. Your tom can fall on your bass!
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There is one thing I don't like. Your mount upside down. Your tom can fall on your bass!
I saw the L rod pointing down also. I thought about it for a while and I realized that as long as you tighten the tom screw it won't be a problem. I've seen other drummers do this before.
I don't point my L rod down because I like to be able to remove my tom quickly after a gig.
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I saw the L rod pointing down also. I thought about it for a while and I realized that as long as you tighten the tom screw it won't be a problem. I've seen other drummers do this before.
I don't point my L rod down because I like to be able to remove my tom quickly after a gig.
Yeah that was a concern (having the tom fall on my kick drum)
I have it right side up now.
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A couple of pix from last weekend (gig set up)






The kit has been hassle free, and sounding awesome!
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