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Old 01-24-2010, 08:47 PM
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anyone use them ?

fat sticks and long length 16.5-17"

any recommendations for a fast response ?

Funk Bats ?

American Classics ?

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Old 01-26-2010, 01:43 PM
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I use Pro mark 2b's which are fat and heavy. They're only 16 " long, though. If you want a faster response you do need to keep the length down. In the past I've used the Vic Firth Classic rock, which are heavy, but longer than the 2b's. I found the length made them a bit too heavy for me though, and would fatigue my wrists at times. The Pro-mark 2b is perfect to me. They're heavier than your typical 2b, but shorter for better response, and very durable, too. If you want them a little longer you can get the Dave Lombardo sig stick, which is a slightly longer Pro-mark 2b.
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:08 PM
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I use Danny Carey's signature Vic Firth Stick, which have a tapered butt for awesome weight and balance. I think they're modelled off a 2B but are a little longer
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Old 01-26-2010, 02:26 PM
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Rocky Neil likes his sticks... erm... quite big:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m3kiBCSTVY#t=1m58s
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:05 AM
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Rocky Neil likes his sticks... erm... quite big:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m3kiBCSTVY#t=1m58s
hehehe. that was funny. informative too. with such big sticks, it was easy to see his licks / timing although i'm sure it was only a sketch of what he he could play with less cumbersome sticks, it was importantant in that it showed the most vitally important parts of what could have been played otherwise.

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Old 01-27-2010, 08:22 AM
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Drumhammerer and Solaris -

thank you much for your replies. i did indeed end up going with 2Bs...Zildjians i don't know the model, but they have a purple butt end half.

i was all set to do the American Classic Rock Nylon, but tried these out of curiousity to compare to my "final selection" and they were much more balanced and faster than my other "finalists".

when i got them home they felt like logs in my hands, but i was able to get to my 13" rack with more precision and force (i usually have trouble in being consistent in stretching that far and hitting precisely).

the only problem so far is that although they are coated, they feel a bit dry to me.

i fear blistering.

thank you much, fellow drummists.

if there are any other thoughts, please feel free.
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:53 PM
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Personally, I find Zildjian sticks to be of the worst quality out of all the stick makers. If you want a quicker big stick try the Vic Firth AC nylon 2b, or the Regal Tip nylon tip 2b. Both of these sticks have smaller tips and shoulders. Keep in mind too that nylon tip sticks are a bit lighter than the wood tip ones. I have a pair of Vic Firth 2b wood tips and they're way heavier and bulkier than the nylon tip version.
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Old 01-29-2010, 03:13 PM
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Personally, I find Zildjian sticks to be of the worst quality out of all the stick makers. If you want a quicker big stick try the Vic Firth AC nylon 2b, or the Regal Tip nylon tip 2b. Both of these sticks have smaller tips and shoulders. Keep in mind too that nylon tip sticks are a bit lighter than the wood tip ones. I have a pair of Vic Firth 2b wood tips and they're way heavier and bulkier than the nylon tip version.
yup. imagine my surprise that the Zildjians beat out the AC 2b's. and Pro Mark's too. the tip is exactly what i was looking for and the response was much better. that purple dip butt end is far too dry and sticky though. blister city. electrical tape for now.
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:36 PM
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Keep in mind too that nylon tip sticks are a bit lighter than the wood tip ones. I have a pair of Vic Firth 2b wood tips and they're way heavier and bulkier than the nylon tip version.
It's not a rule, Vic Firth just has huge variations in weight between same-sized sticks. That's why I always go through quite a few pairs at the store before selecting one, to make sure I have just the right weight.

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that purple dip butt end is far too dry and sticky though. blister city. electrical tape for now.
They're made without the dip too, should feel the same in all other aspects.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:43 AM
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They're made without the dip too, should feel the same in all other aspects.
Thanks Fiery. do you use Zildjians too ?

any thoughts on Carbo-Sticks or Techra or other synthetic sticks ?

anyone ?
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Old 01-30-2010, 01:18 AM
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I play with Vic Firth Nova 2B hickory, wooden tips - they are heavy punch and strong sticks.....love them.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:58 AM
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Thanks Fiery. do you use Zildjians too ?

any thoughts on Carbo-Sticks or Techra or other synthetic sticks ?

anyone ?
I use Vic Firth 2B; they are the cheapest and most readily available high quality sticks around these parts, and I like the feel of that model.

I have a pair of 2B carbon fiber sticks by an unknown producer (threw away the sleeve and the logo wore off). They are the size of typical 5B sticks or even a bit thinner and they are somewhat flexible - you can bend them by hand - so they feel terrible. I haven't used them on a kit for a couple of years now.
They do have a very good rimshot and rim click sound though.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:09 AM
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I use Vic Firth 2B; they are the cheapest and most readily available high quality sticks around these parts, and I like the feel of that model.

I have a pair of 2B carbon fiber sticks by an unknown producer (threw away the sleeve and the logo wore off). They are the size of typical 5B sticks or even a bit thinner and they are somewhat flexible - you can bend them by hand - so they feel terrible. I haven't used them on a kit for a couple of years now.
They do have a very good rimshot and rim click sound though.
i used the Techra Cool Jazz model til they broke, then i went with the Cool Rock model i think, til they broke...and since synthetic sticks are not very popular and hard to find, i figured i'd better make the move to wood. i'm not a fan of wood chips so i guess i'll have to get a dust buster (hand held vac).

the Techra's were way expensive, but the Carbo-sticks are reasonably priced as are some others i've seen, i wish there was a synthetic stick that isn't hollow inside. imagine my surprise when i broke them. i remember Pro Mark made a synthetic stick back in the 70's. i wonder if they still do ?
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:02 PM
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Don't forget to throw Vater in the mix...I find Vater's usually lighter than other sticks with the same or better durability ....so a 2B Vater will feel much lighter in your hands than a Pro Mark or Vic Firth.... IMHO....your mileage may vary ;)
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:01 AM
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I like the Alex Van Halen sig stick from Regal Tip
I like the length 17.75"
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:20 AM
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I am a long stick guy.

These are some sticks I used in the past/present

vater 1a 17" long .590" dia hickory
zildjian super5b 16 1/2" long .595" dia hickory
zildjian travis barker 16 3/8" long .595" dia hickory
pro-mark jason bonham 16 3/4" .595" dia maple

I stopped buying the zidjians because too many would break, and I did like the travis barker stick but it got white paint all over the place. The vaters were good but are hard to find everywhere, and then I found the jason bonham stick and fell in love. It is a very long stick and being that its maple it is lighter than a similar hickory stick of the same size. I have found that maple does dent up pretty good being a softer wood than hickory, but it breaks alot less.
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My fav. Big Sticks are Vater 3A's Nylon's of course, they have a barrel-tip for a cutting ride bell & Volume plus they are very playable for such a big stick. some people wouldn't. consider them a big stick through (16" L & .590 Dia.).

I just love how they play.

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Old 02-03-2010, 06:13 PM
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My fav. Big Sticks are Vater 3A's Nylon's of course, they have a barrel-tip for a cutting ride bell & Volume plus they are very playable for such a big stick. some people wouldn't. consider them a big stick through (16" L & .590 Dia.).

I just love how they play.

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is barrel tip the same as oval ?
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:04 PM
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is barrel tip the same as oval ?
no it's more squared off kinda like a oak barrel(hence the name) or beer keg shaped.

I used to use 420 pro-marks all the time but I seem to be going too the 3A's more than the 420's lately just because they play sweet & I get plenty of volume.

try a set I like them because they play like smaller dia. sticks but I get the volume like larger
dia. sticks.

In my world that's the perfect combo LOL.

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Old 02-03-2010, 10:21 PM
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no it's more squared off kinda like a oak barrel(hence the name) or beer keg shaped.

I used to use 420 pro-marks all the time but I seem to be going too the 3A's more than the 420's lately just because they play sweet & I get plenty of volume.

try a set I like them because they play like smaller dia. sticks but I get the volume like larger
dia. sticks.

In my world that's the perfect combo LOL.

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i'd never heard of 3A's. that sounds like what i'm looking for for exactly those reasons.

thank you all for the responses...i have paid attention to all and hope to try all of the suggestions.

keep it coming if you got more.
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I have some Ricky Rockett sticks that I use once in a while. I bought them for my drum practice pad but every now and then will break them out for the drum set.
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Old 02-04-2010, 05:24 PM
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Vater XD-5A - it's 580 around and 161/2 long with short taper and best feeling bigger sticks I've ever used. 3A's are also a stick of choice.
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Old 02-04-2010, 06:00 PM
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thomas lang uses some cool ones i rmember seeing a video of him talking about them

short taper, white, nice and fat

he says it visually effective when playing and the last a long time

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I've got a pair of Vater Rock sticks (16 5/8" x .630") that I use only only on my practice pad. You got probably put a burglar in the hospital with those dam things. Kind of the power wrist builder thing (they didn't have any at my local GC at the time).

But last night I picked up a couple pairs of Buddy Rich's signature sticks (16 5/16" x .590"). I was always hesitant to even look at them because, well, it's Buddy freakin' Rich. Anyway I'm very impressed with them. I think I found a new stick, I really like the tips on them. I used to always use the Erskine Ride stick, but after about a weeks worth of playing the tips would begin to split and chip away. And at about $9/pair that adds up.
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thomas lang uses some cool ones i rmember seeing a video of him talking about them

short taper, white, nice and fat

he says it visually effective when playing and the last a long time

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Yeah, Thomas Lang's sticks are tree trunks; they're massive! For such an exceptionally technical player, I was surprised to see him use such big sticks.

I believe Mike Mangini uses some pretty hefty pieces of wood as well; he's got a Zildjian signature model.
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A GREAT big stick that you might like is the Ronnie Vannucci stick by Zildjian. Yeah, yeah, I know...Zildjian. But - they're maple and made quite well.

16.5"x.620

Great tip, great balance and feel in your hands, and light enough to haul ass with.
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A GREAT big stick that you might like is the Ronnie Vannucci stick by Zildjian. Yeah, yeah, I know...Zildjian. But - they're maple and made quite well.

16.5"x.620

Great tip, great balance and feel in your hands, and light enough to haul ass with.
i like my Zildjian Purple dips so far, but i know i haven't even begun to explore the world of sticks...so thank you for all of your replies and please keep em' coming if you got em.

can anyone recommend a synthetic stick that's normally priced and 2B / 3A- ish ?
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:29 AM
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To be honest, I just can't abide by big sticks. They feel big and clumsy in my hands, and they're to heavy to play at the speed that I usually play.

I use medium-sized sticks. Vic Firth Dave Weckl Signatures. They bounce incredibly well, they're nice and long, so I don't need a huge movements, and they're fairly light and thin, which means I can get them everywhere and anywhere and top-speed.
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:29 PM
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To be honest, I just can't abide by big sticks. They feel big and clumsy in my hands, and they're to heavy to play at the speed that I usually play.
i know what you mean...at first they felt like logs in my hands, but as i played with them i noticed my cymbal and tom hits were more consistent and i didn't have to grip *or hit as hard for the stick was doing the work which made me quicker at the elbow.

but 3A's may be a little bit lighter and still do the same job. i'll look into all of the suggestions.

any more ?
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Vic Firth Danny Carey signature sticks:


.630 at the front, .675 at the back, with a cut in thinner part in the grip area. Very comfortable to hold on to, and they have a nice balance too. Do give them a try.
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:23 AM
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thank you all. your suggestions have been duly noted. that last pair seems very interesting with the contoured grip. they are all worth a try and i will do so as soon as possible.

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