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Old 01-29-2010, 06:29 AM
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They're both fantastic games, IMO.

Ever watched Australian rules football? (I think that's what it's called)

Now that's a bizzarre game (to an American like me).
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Ever watched Australian rules football? (I think that's what it's called)

Now that's a bizzarre game (to an American like me).
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who have you seen diving in AF. A punter trying to draw a penalty. Give me a break. You don't know the game at all.
Exactly. Diving is the last thing you could accuse the players in the NFL of doing. Mostly because blocking and tackling are lega parts of the game, so what is to be gained by diving?

Do any of the Soccer people on here want to comment on the soccer offsides? I mentioned I think it is bad for soccer and makes it too defensive. Hardly any shots on goal makes the game frustrating to watch. Why don't they use a line to mark a section of the field, like the blue line in hockey? Once you're in with the ball anything goes.
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who have you seen diving in AF. A punter trying to draw a penalty. Give me a break. You don't know the game at all.
Gruntersdad.

That was called a tongue in cheek comment that i made.

Do not players in AF dive on to or at each other.

And yes. i know sweet FA about AF, I am English, the only thing i know about AF is there is alot of standing around, time outs and players dance alot when they score.

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Exactly. Diving is the last thing you could accuse the players in the NFL of doing. Mostly because blocking and tackling are lega parts of the game, so what is to be gained by diving?

Do any of the Soccer people on here want to comment on the soccer offsides? I mentioned I think it is bad for soccer and makes it too defensive. Hardly any shots on goal makes the game frustrating to watch. Why don't they use a line to mark a section of the field, like the blue line in hockey? Once you're in with the ball anything goes.
The off side rule in FOOTBALL is there for a very good reason, to stop goal hanging, you could have two players camped out by the goal keeper just waiting for the ball to come.

No that rule is there for a very good reason
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Yeh I would have to agree that American football is in no way more brutal than Rugby Union. I have played rugby in scotland (no not the main team) for a few years now and in various positions mostly forward. The forwards take ALOT of hits to the chest and back. You have to be really careful in fully contested scrum because basically if u mess up in there you have a good chance of snapping your back in two. Also in rugby there is alot less standing around than american football especially if ur a forward. When thers a turnover its a quick line out and your away again. lol so out of the three the highest risk of severe injury or death is rugby. I wonder why i play it sometimes... ach wel its amazing anyway.
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Gruntersdad.

That was called a tongue in cheek comment that i made.

Do not players in AF dive on to or at each other.

Point taken.

As for offsides. It needs to be there for sure. Just like hockey you would have "snow birds" just sitting there waiting for a shot or pass at any time. Offside is easy but gets messy when you have a serious challenge in front of the goal with a bunch of players. You just have to play yourself back onside, as in hockey.
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My dad, before he was prime minister was in the SAS, and before that, he taught the hard men, how to be tough, and before that he was a policeman..

So there..



But then, we also play Rugby, wihtout any padding .

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Now, now girls!.. Sticks and stones and all that! Lol..
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But then, we also play Rugby, wihtout any padding ..

Why would padding be required, it's not like they run full speed into each other. Just a bunch of tackling and poking each other in the eye from what I gather, we used to play that when we were kids here and called it smear the queer or Muckle, it's not that rough. Since you refuse to make an intelligent post regarding Football I guess I will return the favor
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The off side rule in FOOTBALL is there for a very good reason, to stop goal hanging, you could have two players camped out by the goal keeper just waiting for the ball to come.

No that rule is there for a very good reason
I understand why offsides is needed, but the way they implement is too hard to call and stifles the game too much.

Like I said in my prior post, why can't they have a soccer equivalent of the hockey blueline, not some ever shifting invisible line?
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Why would padding be required, it's not like they run full speed into each other. Just a bunch of tackling and poking each other in the eye from what I gather, we used to play that when we were kids here and called it smear the queer or Muckle, it's not that rough. Since you refuse to make an intelligent post regarding Football I guess I will return the favor
Well as a kid, or you still might be, you proberly played kids rugby (Rugby League or touch Rugby) as we do here for our kids under 12, as the game adults play (Union) is far to dangerous for kids to play, as we run at each other head on, without pads.

With rugby, the player that you see, is what you get, not like AF were the 8' giant of a player, is actually 5'1" with all his padding removed.

I would try and talk about the basics behind the off side rule in FOOTBALL but for some it may be to taxing for you to grasp.
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Well as a kid, or you still might be, you proberly played kids rugby (Rugby League or touch Rugby) as we do here for our kids under 12, as the game adults play (Union) is far to dangerous for kids to play, as we run at each other head on, without pads.

With rugby, the player that you see, is what you get, not like AF were the 8' giant of a player, is actually 5'1" with all his padding removed.

WOW . You obviously know nothing of AF, why your so envious of it I don;t understand. I mean I could understand if you knew the game and made a somewhat intelligent informed opinion but wow bro.. you are looking kinda dumb the more you post. How is the air way up there on your high horse by the way? is it warmer or cooler? Just curious..
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Ok guys......forget 'the world game', forget NFL, forget rugby.....forget my beloved AFL and cricket, forget tiddlywinks for that matter.....I have something far, far better.

Last night, the good wife and myself were channel surfing and we stumbled across......'The Lingerie Football League'.........LEAGUE?!?!?!? This denotes there are more than two teams.

We have no event here in Oz to match the class of this sporting gem. Would my friends Stateside care to elaborate on my new favourite veiwing pastime? Anyone know anything about this?
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Here you go mate. enjoy......

http://www.lflus.com/
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Great stuff GD....thanks for that. Suddenly being smashed and driven into the ground sounds so appealing..........and to think, up until this point I though the 'rock, paper, scissors' world championships was the best thing going round!!

Lovin' it!
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Being a rugby fan I appreciate American football. It has amazing tactics. Tactics that have been put to use in warfare! For example, US Navy and Marine Air squadrons used these tactics in battle with the Japanese with amazing results. Even when the Japanese equipment far out classed them.

Many people out of the US fail to realize that those guys can be tackled in the air. Unlike Rugby or League.

As for soccer? I wont watch it until there is a director, an assistant director and a stretcher bearing team following each player around on the field. Then at last that game will be honest.
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A picture is worth a thousand words... and video's have dozens of pictures per second in them. Check this out:
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My dad, before he was prime minister was in the SAS, and before that, he taught the hard men, how to be tough, and before that he was a policeman..

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But then, we also play Rugby, wihtout any padding ..
I like how you bring your dad's achievements into this...actually no I don't.
How old are you? I usually expect europeans to be a little more controlled and respectable since some usually talk down on us about our ways (like you) but you've completely blown my assumption all to hell. I find your ridiculous points in this argument rather amusing like I find comical TV shows...I don't take them seriously.

I sincerely laughed out loud when I read "He teaches the hard men to be tough" LOL
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My Dad can beat up your Dad.
Go easy mate! My dad is 83.

By the way, rugby players wear equipment. Shoulder pads, boxes etc. And if there was a chance they'd be tackled in mid air, helmets and pads all over as well!

One thing I will criticize is the time outs. It makes the game overly long. I know Americans treat it as a day out, but we off shore types like to get on with it.
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Speaking of getting it over with, as I remember Autralian Rules Football has four almost 30 minute long quarters. That's twice our game although the clock runs. That game to me is work. Footy I believe you call it.
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Speaking of getting it over with, as I remember Autralian Rules Football has four almost 30 minute long quarters. That's twice our game although the clock runs. That game to me is work. Footy I believe you call it.
Four 20 minute quarters I believe. When the ball is bounced the game runs pretty much flat chat. It's the fastest football game I've seen.

I played it when I was a kid but hardly follow it now.

I remember watching a gridiron game and the thing went about 3 hours due to the time outs. It's a good game though. I think if they were to ditch the time out the game might get more international spectators. That is just a guess of course.
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Speaking of getting it over with, as I remember Autralian Rules Football has four almost 30 minute long quarters. That's twice our game although the clock runs. That game to me is work. Footy I believe you call it.
Yes indeed, here in the great southern land it is referred to as FOOTY!!!!!!

Careful GD or we'll claim you as an honorary Aussie like we do with just about anyone who has heard the first three bars of Waltzing Matilda. Yep 30 min quarters of kicking, hand passing, marking (catching), tackling and running (some of our on-ball players can notch up 30 to 40 km's a game)........in fact, this has just reminded me of why I gave up playing!
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Careful GD or we'll claim you as an honorary Aussie like we do with just about anyone who has heard the first three bars of Waltzing Matilda.
Yes, just like that other great Aussie Sir Richard Hadlee.
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WOW . You obviously know nothing of AF, why your so envious of it I don;t understand. I mean I could understand if you knew the game and made a somewhat intelligent informed opinion but wow bro.. you are looking kinda dumb the more you post. How is the air way up there on your high horse by the way? is it warmer or cooler? Just curious..
Dont really care of your opinions.

If you look back at my previous post, you wil notice that i have mentioned i know sweet FA about AF. try reading previous posts, may help you, and yes i may appear dumb with my comments, as i do not know the game, apart from there is alot of time outs.

But so what, does that mean that becouse i know FA about the game that that i cant comment about it wheather it be wrong or right, intellegent or not.

You think that mate, you can stick your head were the sun dont shine, i will make any comment i want (within reason), about anything i want (within reason) for the sites purposes.

I would rarther appear dumb and and have the right to make a dumb comment, than be intellegent, and be scared to voice my opinion, because someone on a thread wants to appear clever.

The air up here, by the way BRO, is the same as any air that hard working people breath, every breath is struggle.

I started this thread as i new, it would be entertaining, and that it has proved to be. Many opioions, good, bad, DUMB or ingtelligent.

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If you look back at my previous post, you wil notice that i have mentioned i know sweet FA about AF.
How can you make the first statement if you admit in the second you know nothing about what you're comparing?

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Yes indeed, here in the great southern land it is referred to as FOOTY!!!!!!

Careful GD or we'll claim you as an honorary Aussie like we do with just about anyone who has heard the first three bars of Waltzing Matilda. Yep 30 min quarters of kicking, hand passing, marking (catching), tackling and running (some of our on-ball players can notch up 30 to 40 km's a game)........in fact, this has just reminded me of why I gave up playing!
So the big question is just what is Waltzing Matilda? Well Matilda is the name given to the nap sack carried by the bums and rail travelers. Waltzing Maltilda is the song sung as they leave one town headed to the next. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
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Yes, just like that other great Aussie Sir Richard Hadlee.
How about: Russell Crowe, Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, most of AC/DC, The BeeGees, Tim and Neil Finn.......none of them born in Oz, but you'd never know that by the way we carry on when they achieve something. And that's just off the top of my head......how many more could I come up with by really thinking about it?

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I like how you bring your dad's achievements into this...actually no I don't.
How old are you? I usually expect europeans to be a little more controlled and respectable since some usually talk down on us about our ways (like you) but you've completely blown my assumption all to hell. I find your ridiculous points in this argument rather amusing like I find comical TV shows...I don't take them seriously.

I sincerely laughed out loud when I read "He teaches the hard men to be tough" LOL

Call me an europeoan, No, I live on island away from europe.

My age, well i am over 40.

Ridiculous. YES, Spent to many years building a bussiness and having to be serious all the time, becouse that is what people expect, and rightly so.

Being serious all the time is not good for the body, being stupid, dumb or rediculous, is a good stress releif, serious people / stressed people pay good money to achive the rediculous.

Glad you find my comments ammussing, as that was the intention, to make someone smile maybe. (maybe not you, but maybe someone else)..

Surely you are not that stupid to think that comment i made was serious one.
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So the big question is just what is Waltzing Matilda? Well Matilda is the name given to the nap sack carried by the bums and rail travelers. Waltzing Maltilda is the song sung as they leave one town headed to the next. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
The funny thing about it, is that it's almost treated as a national anthem.....and it's song about sheep stealing and suicide.......this is what comes of forging a nation out of a convict colony I guess.....lol.
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How about: Russell Crowe, Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, most of AC/DC, The BeeGees, Tim and Neil Finn.......none of them born in Oz, but you'd never know that by the way we carry on when they achieve something. And that's just off the top of my head......how many more could I come up with by really thinking about it?
I don't think anybody anywhere wants Der Fuhrer, Mel Gibson. Do they?

All the rest? Damned fine Aussie stock! :-)
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How can you make the first statement if you admit in the second you know nothing about what you're comparing?



That much is certain.
Again.

I know little about AF, as mentioned in posts before, again, i started this thread, as i new it would be contrvesall, i write the contravesall posts, as i know it stirs up a hornets nest, as proven.

But if you are going to use a quote, use the whole quote as stated, and not the portion you want to use, to make yourself look good.

We can all take certain words from a speach and use them for our own benifit, to look good, but it all depends on the sort of person you are, and how low you want to go to make your self look clever.
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The funny thing about it, is that it's almost treated as a national anthem.....and it's song about sheep stealing and suicide.......this is what comes of forging a nation out of a convict colony I guess.....lol.
Just be careful how you spell Penal Colony.
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You guys are to much! You're still at this I see.
I'll check in now and then and see how you all are doing!
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I'll check in now and then and see how you all are doing!
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I have to agree with you on this one!!! This thread is starting to make me laugh!!!
Football or American Football.. It gets everyone stired up. Well done Sufc.loyal!!..
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I have to agree with you on this one!!! This thread is starting to make me laugh!!!
Football or American Football.. It gets everyone stired up. Well done Sufc.loyal!!..
Let me put it from an American vantage point. I'm 52 years old, I grew up with American Football and Baseball. I didn't even know what European Football was until my children introduced me to it because they played it when they were young. I went to their games and I cheered them on and such. I wasn't going to let Euro Football replace the games that I grew up with! I have nothing against Euro Football. Im still not going to abandon what I have known and loved. These games are part of American Culture. That's the way that it is and it always will be! We don't care if outsiders don't understand it.
We drank Budweiser, Schaefer, Ballantine, and Rheingold beer, and we watched American Football and Baseball. That's the way that it was as I was coming up.
We don't compare our games to the rest of the world, We don't care what the world thinks of our games! They are ours! We like them!
OMG! Let's not forget Basketball, Another American game.
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Quite right Bob.

I think perhaps where these idea stem from is that due to cable TV, people outside the US are seeing many US games. Often at the expense of their own. For example, last year I went to a Returned Servicemens club to have a quiet beer and watch a cricket test match. I was quite stunned to see a baseball game on screen and had to ask the barmaid to change the channell so I could watch the Aussie cricket team.

Of course in Australia we've always had the English league soccer on our TV's. So we may be more used to it. For a while I saw so many games played by the Cleveland Indians I began to know what was happening. And I've no real interest in baseball. All this by accident.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:07 AM
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Point Taken Bobdadruma.

Like wise, there has been input into our country for the introdution of AF, it has been taken up by certain sectors of the public, but our national sport is football, for which many a surpporter is passionate, sometimes to the point of ridiculous.

The only thing i would say about football, is it is not just euro football, but world football, where all of south America, Africa, europe, united kingdom. Russia, Bulgon States, middle east countries, Asia, all play the game, where the world cup, really is all countys around the world united in one compertition for the world cup.

This time being held in South Affrica 2010..
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